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Unborn Child a Parasite, a Tapeworm: Columnist
LifeSiteNews ^ | Hilary White and John Jalsevac

Posted on 08/02/2006 3:19:21 PM PDT by wagglebee

ANN ARBOR, August 2, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In a July 26 column that reads almost like a parody of the slogans of the abortion movement, a sophomore at Michigan State University has declared that the unborn child is a parasite, similar to a tapeworm that should be "annihilated."
 
Writing for The State News, the campus paper of Michigan State University, one of the largest univerities in the U.S., Shane Krouse writes, "The fetus is merely a wad of cells. A mere wad of cells doesn't equate to a fully functioning, living human being. A wad of cells cannot make its own cognitive decisions… Comparatively, a fetus is little more than a tapeworm. It is quite common for humans to annihilate parasites with medications or toxins, so why not allow for fetuses to suffer the same fate?"
 
Krouse asks rhetorically, "How can you kill something that is not yet living?" He answers his own question saying that the child after birth is "alive" because it no longer receives nutrients and oxygen through the umbilical cord from the mother. He does not clarify how a thing that processes nutrients and oxygen, grows, moves independently and replicates its own cells – the usual criteria for living things established by the biological sciences – can be not alive in the womb but suddenly alive at the moment of birth.

Nick Mrozowski, the editor for The State News, told LifeSiteNews.com that Krouse's piece does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the newspaper itself. "When we publish a columnist it is their view," he said. "We routinely publish columns that the paper does or does not agree with."

"[Krouse] has reinvigorated a debate in our community that is important. A debate is good."

Mrozowski said that the reponse to Krouse's inflammatory language has been a mere handful of letters, some opposed and some in favor. 

One woman wrote to the State News to say that she agreed with Shane Krouse that the unborn child is a parasite that may be killed with impunity.
 
Clementine Ford of Adelaide, Australia wrote in response that because the "reasoning for abortion is
personal…there can be no definable ‘valid’ reason for having one."
 
"Personally, I aborted my parasite because of failed contraception and a fervent desire not to breed right now. I feel no guilt for my actions."

See the original State News story at
http://www.statenews.com/op_article.phtml?pk=36986



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KEYWORDS: abortion; babykillers; fetus; moralabsolutes; prenataldevelopment; prolife; sick
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To: wagglebee

"College Students, is there anything they don't know?"

Homer Simpson


51 posted on 08/02/2006 3:42:14 PM PDT by SeanOGuano
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To: wagglebee
A mere wad of cells doesn't equate to a fully functioning, living human being.

In Shane's worldview, a fully functioning living human being is just a "wad of cells." The only difference, in that regard, between an adult and a baby in the womb is the size of the wad. I don't see why big wads have any more right to freedom and life than little wads. But that's what secular humanism reduces to. The bigger the wad, the more the will to and the right to power.

So, Shane, please get in the cattle car. Next stop, Belsen. The part of my wad that has thoughts believes that your wad is a parasite on society. What? You say you have rights? Nope. You're just a wad of cells and I have a gun. As the larger and more powerful wad, I can do whatever I want. This is for the common good. Now, are you going to come along like a good little wad or do I have get unpleasant?

The edifice of civilization that gives Shane rights is the same edifice that once gave babies in the womb rights. Without grounding in God, that edifice slowly becomes Nietzchian and barbarian. Shane is part of that process of degradation. If he doesn't pay for his acts, his children or grandchildren (should he choose to bring a parasite to term) will.

53 posted on 08/02/2006 3:43:10 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: wagglebee
Obviously Krouse was never himself an unborn child. He must have been found under a toadstool.

This guy does not seem to realize that he himself was once a taoeworm, a parasite, who had a loving mother who brought him into the world.

Isn't Liberal radicalism interestingly blind, they always apply their ideology to everyone else but themselves. Ever notice that?

Well Krouse Wad, there probably will be a suicidal wad cutter in your future.

54 posted on 08/02/2006 3:43:23 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: wagglebee

This dam is sick, however we must understand that stating that a fetus is a parasite is correct to a point. A mother's body will not give up protein for a fetus, causing children to be born with 10% less brain weight and mentally deficient, if the mother does not get enough.

Now look at the slogans from the Pro-death movement.
"It's my body/it's my choice"

If a fetus is not part of the mother's body and is a parasite, it then is NOT your Body and NOT your choice. There is a whole seperate being. And guess what? It's not a puppy.


55 posted on 08/02/2006 3:44:29 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: after dark
I think he is just a stupid sophomore trying to write things which will make his liberal professors happy.

The things I thought and said as a sophomore in college make be blush with shame now as an adult. As they say, youth is wasted on the young. And college life isn't real life yet.

When mortgages, male pattern baldness, marriage, and that first look at his newborn as it emerges from its mother occur in this man's life, he will almost certainly have a far different opinion than he has now. He's barely out of high school, folks.......and we know what mental midgets teenagers can be.

56 posted on 08/02/2006 3:44:37 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: wagglebee

Intersting

Seems to be about a 50/50 spilt on the guess 'the Krouse' is a him or her.

Juding from the story, I vote fem, tho it is hard to say without a photo, medical exam and DNA test these days.

Could the piece be a 'cry for help' after an abortion and now she has decided it was a mistake?

Could Krouse *BE* that cold (and not be a Commie)?

Could it be my GAS meter is brioken and Krouse will have to live with the results at some time?


57 posted on 08/02/2006 3:45:44 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: wagglebee

Andrea Yates change her name?


58 posted on 08/02/2006 3:46:42 PM PDT by LRS
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To: TXBubba

Found the quotes. These were quotes from about the year 2000--all but the last one were from Abortion Celebration:

"I agree a woman should have the right to abortion on demand at any time during her pregnancy."

"BEFORE my last abortion I was given a 9 page report on my options. . ."

"I have never been in that position, but considering how little thought it takes to f__k, you should put just about that much consideration into aborting, because childbirth ain't some magical thing. It's the result of f__king. If it was so f__king magical, sex would last longer than it does (for many people, heheheh)."

"I feel no regret for the two abortions I have had."

"We need to start enacting some Social Darwinism here. We are the only animals that do not have natural enemies, nor destroy derformed young. And yes, we ARE animals. We ARE primates."

"When I suffered a positive pregnancy test in the summer of 1991, I did not for one second even consider any option except the abortion of the cancerous mass from my body."

"When I refer to a child in that way, it's bratty little bastards with mothers who think they're entitled to some sort of special treatment just because they accomplished a task that I do several times weekly, which is F__K."

"I call children crotch fruit, snot goblins, f__k-trophies, sproglinas, vomit comets, etc., because most of them ARE!"

"This is why I want my uterus ripped out and deposited in the nearest trashcan."

"Yeah, I just LUVS when my body balloons up to Jabba the Hut size, only to s__t out something the size of a watermelon out of an opening the size of a lemon! WHERE DO I SIGN UP!?! There are reasons why I want a tubal ASAP."

"yeah, okay...I get jealous when people get all sorts of special treatment for a bodily function."

This person is comparing pregnancy to bodily functions as well--"Just start rubbing your tummy and loudly say, "Ulcer wants Pepto!!!" Or run potty saying happily, "Butt wants a dumpie!!"

"The baby does not really feel it and its fast! There are enough of us stupid cruel people anyway. We need to stop worrying about us and worry more about animals. I mean look at us taking away their life for cloths, food, beat'n fun and all. They have feelings and feel pain too! So abortion is so good! We dont need more people to come on earth to abuse our fellow earthlings! Its a cruel word out there! Jen. ABORTION RULES BABIES SUCK!"


59 posted on 08/02/2006 3:47:00 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: wagglebee
These people are subhuman degenerate scum.

No. They are fully human. The "subhuman degenerate scum" is their view of the unborn baby. That's how they manage to kill her so casually. The oldest trick in humanity is to dehumanize those you would destroy. Don't fall into the abortionist trap.

60 posted on 08/02/2006 3:47:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mack Truck
Non artes, non scientia, non veritas. - Today's University of Michigan.

Wrong U! I don't know why the article is from Ann Arbor, but it is about Michigan State. But wait, it gets even sillier! Guess what the motto for the State U and their press office is?

"Advancing Knowledge, Transforming Lives."

So they are advancing knowledge by incorrectly claiming that a fetus is not a life-form, and they are transforming lives as in calling humans tapeworms whose life can be cold-bloodedly terminated!

Sickening!

61 posted on 08/02/2006 3:48:34 PM PDT by mwilli20
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To: teenyelliott

Read at your own risk (of having to clean up your vomit)


62 posted on 08/02/2006 3:48:41 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: wagglebee

A wad of cells cannot make its own cognitive decisions




Sounds like you Shane.


63 posted on 08/02/2006 3:50:08 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: wagglebee

Oops, meant to ping you too, to post #59.


64 posted on 08/02/2006 3:51:40 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: darkangel82

I don't think so, and therein is the problem. God help us if a raving sociopath ever gets elected President.....Oh, wait...


65 posted on 08/02/2006 3:52:43 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: flynmudd

It's a he...


67 posted on 08/02/2006 3:54:17 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: definitelynotaliberal
the unborn child is a parasite that may be killed with impunity.

Holy crap. I'm glad that person was not in front of me when she said that, because I consider her a parasite to society.

Guess that means I can kill her.

68 posted on 08/02/2006 3:55:13 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: mwilli20

"Wrong U! I don't know why the article is from Ann Arbor, but it is about Michigan State."

Good catch there! As a UM grad, we like to distinguish ourselves as much as possible from MSU.

Perhaps this young man's motivation is to be a politically 'incorrect' as possible, and he succeeded in doing that, at least.


69 posted on 08/02/2006 3:55:25 PM PDT by PageMarker
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To: ModelBreaker

You got it right. What these people don't seem to understand is that when humans usurp the power to define who is or is not human life becomes the victim of whim. Any and every political/philosophical fad becomes the measuring rod of everyone's humanity and if you don't fit the metrics you wind up with a yellow star on your coat or in the gulag or on the auction block or in the gas chamber. Or you could wind up with a lethal injection administered by a PC doctor "just doing his job" by ensuring the current regime's standards for "quality of life" and "dignity" are not being violated.


70 posted on 08/02/2006 3:55:49 PM PDT by scory
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To: ModelBreaker

Shane Krouse -- is that Michael Schiavo's new alias?


71 posted on 08/02/2006 3:55:51 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: wagglebee

Actually, they are good democrat party drones. The democraps like Boxer, Harkin, Schumer, Kennedy, clinton, and Mikulski must be proud of their achievement in dehumanizing the alive unborn children. They do all their mischief for the chidren don'tchaknow. [I purposely left off Lautenberg because I think he's too senile to actually be a factor any more. Space on FR doesn't permit the listing of all the democrap House members in this heinous cult of death.


72 posted on 08/02/2006 3:58:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: wagglebee
I dare anyone to look at this newest member of my family and call him a parasite.

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73 posted on 08/02/2006 3:58:54 PM PDT by mware
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To: jumpstart1981
Rape would be a reminder to the mother of the despicable horrible person who did that to her every day, and as the child ages, has the potential to look like her rapist. Why wouldn't these states make these exceptions?

Let me answer your question with a question: Is the potential to look like your rapist a death penalty offense? Because that's what abortion is.

Rape and incest are crimes. Go after the perpetrator, and don't make the innocent by-product pay the price.

(With that being said, I'd agree to laws that allow rape & incest abortions, if the pregnant woman filed formal charges against the supposed perp. I'd also offer state assistance to help her if she decided to keep her pregnancy. I

As ugly as rape-and-incest allowances for abortion are, I'd be for such waivers if for no other reason than they are a step up from the morass we find ourselves in : sex-selection abortions, partial-birth abortions, you name it....)

74 posted on 08/02/2006 4:00:10 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: wagglebee

doesn't that also kind of negate the whole "It's my body" argument. Now they are admitting that's its not part of their own body, but that it's still allright to kill it? These eople can justify pretty much anything to themelves.


75 posted on 08/02/2006 4:01:13 PM PDT by tarawa
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To: teenyelliott

I was thinking you would have 1 of 2 possible responses. You went with the 2nd. See how well I know you ;-) ?


76 posted on 08/02/2006 4:01:52 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: mware

Great Picture! He looks like a very happy and cute baby.


77 posted on 08/02/2006 4:02:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: definitelynotaliberal
What was the first? : )

I really am amazed at the language in that article.

78 posted on 08/02/2006 4:05:46 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: LtKerst
Whether God loves him is for God to know. God will punish all sin, and be glorified in the final condemnation and eternal punishment (I believe) of His enemies - just as He will be glorified (I believe) in saving His people from their sins. Whether this young gestappo later repents of his advocated genocide is for God to know.

Sorry, your post really struck me.

79 posted on 08/02/2006 4:07:45 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: flynmudd

Anytime I hear a liberal say that they will not bring a child into this world I know that there is hope for the future.


81 posted on 08/02/2006 4:10:12 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: wagglebee
The fetus is merely a wad of cells. A mere wad of cells doesn't equate to a fully functioning, living human being. A wad of cells cannot make its own cognitive decisions… Comparatively, a fetus is little more than a tapeworm. It is quite common for humans to annihilate parasites with medications or toxins, so why not allow for fetuses to suffer the same fate?"

He is evading or neglecting several important facts about fetuses. The fetus is not fixed in time but is continuously developing into a human being. Even though it is not rational yet, it has the potentiality to become rational with the passage of time. A parasite cannot do either of these things.

82 posted on 08/02/2006 4:10:42 PM PDT by mjp
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To: wagglebee

Mr. Krouse sounds like a fungi.


83 posted on 08/02/2006 4:11:27 PM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: Pharmboy

Who cares. I still don't want him to procreate and raise another generation of free lovers with no responsbility.


84 posted on 08/02/2006 4:12:05 PM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: Kimmers

Isn't this in Michigan? I understand there is a huge population of Muslims in Michigan. Maybe that explains the disregard for human life.


85 posted on 08/02/2006 4:14:06 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: dynachrome

Amen.


86 posted on 08/02/2006 4:14:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: mware

He's very cute. Not a parasite in the least.


88 posted on 08/02/2006 4:18:05 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: mware

Not a chance. And congratulations!


89 posted on 08/02/2006 4:20:30 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: MarkeyD

Naturally, they are victims of greedy corporations and cruel Republicans/sarcasm off


90 posted on 08/02/2006 4:22:55 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: wagglebee

May this poor child never need nursing assistance to sustain her life.


91 posted on 08/02/2006 4:25:05 PM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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To: wagglebee

"Personally, I aborted my parasite"

And does this young lady receive any funding from the government, that is, from the US taxpayer? She the real parasite.


92 posted on 08/02/2006 4:26:53 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: jumpstart1981
The likely hood that this child will grow and thrive in a happy home greatly diminishes. The mother will try to raise the child till she a) breaks down, b) becomes regretful of, or c) worst of all abuses the child either mentally or physically because of the constant reminder of her attacker. All three of these scenarios will probably land the child in the nations bloated underfunded public foster care system. The child will bounce around from home to home to home until he/she is old enough to live on his or her own and by that point will either rise above which is not likely or will enter into our prison system. MOST scenarios lead to a not so happy life for the child.

That's a whole lot of "what-ifs" and worst-case scenarios you got there. Your solution is to "help" the youngster out by chopping it up, or pouring acid on it until dead?

How about instead pursuing the adoption route? Or work to help people caught in difficult circumstances caused by violent, heinous crime? Recategorizing some humans to non-human status to justify abuse and murder is a practice of the evil throughout history, not of the good.

93 posted on 08/02/2006 4:27:21 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: wagglebee

To the author: Tie your freaking tubes you whack-job!


94 posted on 08/02/2006 4:28:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Knock knock" "who's there?" "Babs' uvula")
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To: wagglebee
"Personally, I aborted my parasite because of failed contraception and a fervent desire not to breed right now. I feel no guilt for my actions."

Same distancing tactic as the Nazis. Dehumanize, then kill. Easier on the conscience.

There is a special place in hell reserved for this she-beast.

"I feel no guilt for my actions."

I doubt this is true.

95 posted on 08/02/2006 4:31:42 PM PDT by RepoGirl ("Bobby, if you weren't my son... I'd hug you...")
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To: wagglebee
These people are subhuman degenerate scum.

Ironically, pro-aborts really DO believe that living baby is "subhuman".

96 posted on 08/02/2006 4:31:53 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: wagglebee
This is nothing new. This is what someone posted near a Genocide Awareness Project display at the University of Delaware in 2003:


97 posted on 08/02/2006 4:32:46 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: SuziQ
Sounds like Mr. Krouse could stand to do a semester of basic Human Biology. As far as making it's own decisions, I wonder if Mr. Krouse will off his grandparents or his parents when they get old and frail, and can no longer make decisions for themselves?

By Mr Krouse's standard, one doesn't need to wait until the parents grow old; their falling asleep would be enough to qualify them as a 'mere wad of cells, unable to make cognitive decisions.'

98 posted on 08/02/2006 4:39:53 PM PDT by monkfan
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