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The Qana Conspiracy Theory
The Washington Post ^ | 08/ 2/2006 | Jefferson Morley

Posted on 08/02/2006 7:18:25 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

As Hezbollah wins support throughout the Middle East in the aftermath of the Israeli airstrike that killed at least 57 Lebanese civilians over the weekend, an alternative view of the attack is emerging in blogs -- that the incident was actually staged by Hezbollah.

This "story" is a useful companion to last week's post about watching the war as it unfolds on the Web. The Qana conspiracy theory not only underscores how the Internet can misinform (an old story), it also reveals a popular demand for online content that attempts to explain away news reports that Israel (and by proxy, its closest ally and arms supplier, the United States) was responsible for the deaths of dozens of women and children in a Hezbollah stronghold.

At a time when American and Israeli public opinion of the war diverge radically from the world opinion elsewhere, the emergence of a right-wing equivalent of the Sept. 11 conspiracy theories is worth noting.........."

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; enemedia; hezbollah; israel; mediabias; qana; tinfoil; wot
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See Stage-Managed Massacre

Morley provides the Washington Post spin on this.

1 posted on 08/02/2006 7:18:26 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The by-line was enough to stop my reading.


2 posted on 08/02/2006 7:19:41 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Anti-Bubba182

It must be hurting them or they wouldn't have risen to the bait.


3 posted on 08/02/2006 7:21:50 PM PDT by capt. norm (Bumper Sticker: Honk if you've never seen an Uzi shoot from a car window.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I just saw on television that Human Rights Watch stated that 28 people were killed in Qana, not the 50+.


4 posted on 08/02/2006 7:21:53 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Anti-Bubba182
This is an example of the press at its most arrogant. If the press is gullible and credulous enough to buy whatever propaganda Hezbollah is selling, then anyone who questions it is by this man's account a kook equal to those who cook up conspiracy theories for 9/11. I guess I'd rather be a skeptic of Hezbollah than a dupe of theirs.
5 posted on 08/02/2006 7:22:35 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Pathetic. The MSM is going to continue to crumble, and we will throw the first shovels of dirt on the turds.


7 posted on 08/02/2006 7:24:20 PM PDT by pissant
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To: elhombrelibre

as usual, it is our enemies who are truly noble.


8 posted on 08/02/2006 7:24:57 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I "like" how the "author" takes the "weakest parts" of the "story" and holds them up as "lack of evidence" of a conspiracy. I guess he didn't have enough "time" to research the whole story.
9 posted on 08/02/2006 7:26:50 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I almost went blind, my eyes were rolling so bad.


10 posted on 08/02/2006 7:27:06 PM PDT by MarcusAurelious (If you are lost in battle, we're splitting your gear.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The Compost wants to fight - Let's give 'em one!


11 posted on 08/02/2006 7:28:25 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998. (stolen from one cool dude))
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"As Hezbollah wins support throughout the Middle East in the aftermath of the Israeli airstrike that killed at least 57 Lebanese civilians over the weekend"

"At least 57"?
Why not just make it a nice round 100?
Reality: Only 28 dead, less than half the 57 mentioned.
13 posted on 08/02/2006 7:30:32 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Anti-Bubba182
My question is: What is it about the photos from Qana that made Israel's supporters prefer fantasy to fact?

My question to Mr. Morley: What is it about the photos that you unquestioningly accept the Hezbollah storyline?

Morley offers no refutation of the "conspiracy theory", simply alleging that people who question the veracity of the MSM (and, hence, Hezbollah) are kooks.

Dupe? Or collaborator?

14 posted on 08/02/2006 7:30:48 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

This Morley guy, like most of them at the Post, were most likely disappointed that the children killed at Qana were not Jewish.


15 posted on 08/02/2006 7:31:11 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: sockmonkey

I saw that, too!! Some more spin from the Hezbullies, beefing up the numbers and the MSM falls for it as usual! Also, that building didn't collapse for another 7 or 8 hours after it was hit. Did it take that long for the terrorists (call 'em what they are!) to give their "die for the Jihad" pep talk, all the while herding (or forcing) women and children into a basement or where ever? There's something really rotten here!


16 posted on 08/02/2006 7:32:17 PM PDT by fishergirl
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To: sockmonkey

Right, he can't get the latest facts on the story which were available and he has the gall to be dismissive of other opinion and analysis on the story.


17 posted on 08/02/2006 7:32:36 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: randog

After shooting down several straw man theories, and the evidence of a staged bombing piles up, they will have to retreat to the "faked but accurate" line.


18 posted on 08/02/2006 7:34:11 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Part of the problem is the dumba@@es that fill the journalism schools in this country are out and about in the world, reporting world events, and far too stupid to tell when and if they are being had. They see bodies of children and get misty eyed and then repeat what they are told; so few have any critical faculties at all.
19 posted on 08/02/2006 7:34:49 PM PDT by giobruno
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To: sockmonkey

I just heard that too. So, why is the other number still being touted? Could it be that our media is uncurious...or....???
susie


20 posted on 08/02/2006 7:36:13 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: MarcusAurelious
I almost went blind, my eyes were rolling so bad.

Man, you and me both. Which makes us the blind leading the blind. ;)

I mean can you believe this?

We got eyeballs out here in la-la land. We saw the same dead girl placed in ambulance, picked up out of the rubble, and being carried to somewhere, all at different times of day, the times bearing no resemblence to the normal sequence of events. As in, why was she loaded into an ambulance in the AM but was pictured being plucked from the rubble later in the day? Why was the same guy with the glasses in every photo, all the hell over the place, carrying this same little dead kid around?

It's like wrestling with these people. They keep trying to tell us it's real. Sheesh I'm at the end of a rope here, gang.

21 posted on 08/02/2006 7:36:33 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/ Search the word "kaitlyn" on FreeRepublic for my Blog posts)
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To: gusopol3

Yes, like the noble savage, we now have the modern savage who is admired by those who'd never admire them if they ever were to come into close proximity to these heartless brutes.


22 posted on 08/02/2006 7:38:32 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: giobruno
so few have any critical faculties at all

BINGO...and no education in any other area of study..history, science, philosophy etc. I think they go into journalism because the other stuff is just too hard for them. That and the fact they are narcistic.

23 posted on 08/02/2006 7:39:04 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: giobruno

Agreed. It seems most of the MSM journalists come from a somewhat exclusive background. Something like a pop-gun leaves them breathless and they're just extremely short on common sense when they're forced to step outside the cocktail circuit. The real world is more of a fiction to them and when they have to deal with it or report on it they don't fare too well.


24 posted on 08/02/2006 7:48:23 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hey jeffie, seen this, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676241/posts
didn't think so maroon


25 posted on 08/02/2006 7:52:15 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (Skerry = Spork Weasel, Indeed!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Author criticizes the Israel press while using The Daily Star, a Lebanese (Muslim?) paper, as a major, unquestioned source.


26 posted on 08/02/2006 7:54:20 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

What this moron forgets to mention is that their own terrorist right group that originally claimed it was 60 lives now say it was 28.


27 posted on 08/02/2006 7:54:53 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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Even Oreilly seemed to be whining about the blogosphere tonight....

(I had to go away from the show just as he was getting started on the subject, so I could be wrong).

Seems like just about every hack that gets paid to report (actually, not report, but give opinions... There is little honest actual reporting anymore) is threatened by the more knowledgable and usually more competent conservative side of the blogosphere.

28 posted on 08/02/2006 7:54:54 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The funny part is, the Muslims are really quite awful at lying; they make up these preposterous accounts and charges and with the most hyperbolic language, and with time-lines and evidence that make no sense, and yet are given the benefit of the doubt. The west acts as if their view of reality is acceptable simply because it is theirs; even though no thoughtful man could take any of it seriously. They are like angry (and demented) children who are utterly unaware how shallow their behavior actually is. Listening to the Muslims spin their weird take on an event usually leaves me laughing.
29 posted on 08/02/2006 7:55:18 PM PDT by giobruno
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The Qana massacre is as real as the Jenin massacre was, I hate these media buffoons


30 posted on 08/02/2006 7:56:14 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (http://www.25waystohelpisrael.com)
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To: Fishtalk

For a society that, by and large, has no regard for women and children, they sure do spend a lot of time going on about their dead women and children.

Most of the libbies who buy that crap also buy Amway.


31 posted on 08/02/2006 7:56:24 PM PDT by MarcusAurelious (If you are lost in battle, we're splitting your gear.)
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To: don-o
The Compost wants to fight - Let's give 'em one!

"Never pick a fight with somebody who buys ink by the barrel"

32 posted on 08/02/2006 7:57:22 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: DCPatriot
I propose that old saw be updated to:

"Never pick a fight with someone who buys bandwidth by the terabyte."
or something like that.

33 posted on 08/02/2006 8:08:40 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

LOL!


34 posted on 08/02/2006 8:11:14 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
a right-wing equivalent of the Sept. 11 conspiracy theories

The MSM isn't usually as honest when it makes moral-equivalency arguments.

35 posted on 08/02/2006 8:18:16 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Well. I supposed the guardians of the public trust could put all of this to rest by providing the time stamps from the photographs.

Oh. And they could answer, you know, a few nutball "conspiratorial" questions such as:

Why is there extreme rigor mortis evident in corpses that have supposedly been expired an hour.

Who is the "Green Helmet Man" and what is his relationship to Hizballah.

Why did the building collapse 6-8 hours after the initial strike?

How is it that the people inside the building were not evacuated "due to damage to roads," yet rescue workers were able to arrive?

You know... the usual nutballs questions from the web "conspiracists."

36 posted on 08/02/2006 8:23:24 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: lesser_satan

Ditto's.


38 posted on 08/02/2006 8:33:31 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Fishtalk

Ambulance? Only when seen from the outside. The inside shows what the vehicle really is. An old van PAINTED UP to look like an ambulance.
The 'rescuers' were there to 'dig' up the bodies and display them like hunting trophies. They had no medical equipment whatsoever.


39 posted on 08/02/2006 8:36:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (V BNM,.1)
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To: giobruno

This 'reporter' was given an outline hot off the wires from the ME and was told to write a column supporting it. He has not seen the children, pictures of the children, or even been out of the office except for coming and going to work.


40 posted on 08/02/2006 8:38:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (V BNM,.1)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
...Middle East in the aftermath of the Israeli airstrike that killed at least 57 Lebanese civilians over the weekend...

This shows who is misinformed. The death toll is 27.
41 posted on 08/02/2006 8:57:15 PM PDT by msnimje (Uni-FAIL - UN peace keeping force in Lebanon has lived up to its name.)
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---Confronted with photographs of dead children, Israeli Insider's Korvet insisted they must be something else: "The victims were non-residents who chose to shelter in the building that night," he writes. "They were 'too poor' to leave the down, one resident told CNN's [Jon] Wedeman. Who were these people?"

That question has been definitively answered in the mainstream press. Almost all of the victims belonged to two extended families, the Hashems and the Shalhoubs, who lived in the area, according to the independent accounts of The Washington Post's Anthony Shadid and the Daily Star's Nicholas Blanford.---

So where were the grieving relatives pushing in on all sides of the rescue site, Morley? It appeared from the photographs that the only ones there were "reporters", "photographers", and "rescuers". Where were the grieving extended families, numnuts?


42 posted on 08/02/2006 9:06:19 PM PDT by claudiustg (dou•ble•think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, 1949: a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Nailed it bump.

This is entirely fluff, predicated on arrogance.


43 posted on 08/02/2006 9:10:55 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: UCANSEE2
I think you are right and he did not look at the photos or study the analysis.

"Confronted with photographs of dead children, Israeli Insider's Korvet insisted they must be something else:"

Below are the two Israeli Insider pieces dealing with Qana.

Hezbollywood? Evidence mounts that Qana collapse and deaths were staged

There is a photo of a dead child in this one.

Lebanese report: Hezbollah planted disabled children in basement to die

And in this one as well.

He just hacked the piece out. At no time did Korvet deny dead children. The question is how did they get there?

44 posted on 08/02/2006 9:10:55 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: claudiustg

Another thing occurs to me. How credible would these "relatives" be anyway?


45 posted on 08/02/2006 9:15:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Qana conspiracy theory not only underscores how the Internet can misinform (an old story)...

In other words, we're not qualified to analyze the news, like he is.

-PJ

46 posted on 08/02/2006 9:24:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: DCPatriot
"Never pick a fight with somebody who buys ink by the barrel"

Ink has become much less relevant than when that was first written. Now even owning a TV network doesn't carry as much weight as it once did.

Almost anyone can afford electrons by the mega-mole.

47 posted on 08/02/2006 9:48:44 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Anti-Bubba182

---Another thing occurs to me. How credible would these "relatives" be anyway?---

More credible than what we have seen anyway. Can you believe that these people just left 19 children behind or that if they were in the area wouldn't mob the site, carrying on hysterically? This whole thing just looks unreal. They should have hired some professionals to set it up. There's too much that just doesn't fit.

Even if the whole thing was real, the fact that they posed the children reduces it to propaganda. I took only one semester of journalism, but I learned that you don't pose or reenact news photos.

And now we hear the AP and others defend their little dog and pony show, and it seems their main defense is to declare anyone that has doubts to be a kook or a conspiracy buff.


48 posted on 08/02/2006 10:32:26 PM PDT by claudiustg (dou•ble•think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, 1949: a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Ping


49 posted on 08/02/2006 11:29:57 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Anti-Bubba182

"underscores how the Internet can misinform (an old story)", Well I guess they should know if anyone does, since they do it constantly.


50 posted on 08/03/2006 7:03:48 AM PDT by thile44 (Simplicity is too complex.)
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