We’re Losing World War IV ... How to get back to the road to victory.

National Review ^ | August 4, 2006 | By Barbara Lerner

[aculeus]

The Shiite mullahs who rule Iran and have seized the leadership of the Islamofascist war against us are as dangerous an enemy as America has ever faced. [snip]

In the 1980s, Iran’s mullahs created Hezbollah, a Shiite Arab terrorist group in Lebanon, and used it to drive us from that country the way they drove us from Iran, but this time, they didn’t just humiliate us and mock our impotence; they tortured and murdered our embassy people in Beirut, and blew up 241 of our marines.

[snip]

We should not wait, passively, for the Iranians to unveil their surprise. We should light up the skies with our own surprise: a massive aerial bombardment that wipes out most of Iran’s nuclear facilities, and decimates the ranks of its mullahs as well as those of the Revolutionary Guard and Basij forces that keep them in power ... Retired air force Lt. General Tom McInerney already has a plan to wipe out most of Iran’s nuclear facilities from the air. As I’ve argued, we should augment it with additional targets and let fly, as soon as possible, with no forewarning, for maximum effect. Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu, one of the few who argues in public for a similarly bold course sums it up this way:

By waiting for a first strike we are put in a position of playing a retaliation game after we have already endured unacceptable losses in population and perception. Once America and Israel are seen as weak enough to defeat, then the international jackals will all join in for the kill. This is what our enemies hope to accomplish…We face a crisis of major proportions. Hesitation may be fatal.

He’s right. The time to act is now.

[edcoil]

My, Barbara seems to have her nickers in a twist.

Now were in WWIV? Just last week we had WWIII. She wants to bomb it seems, everyone, everywhere.

[FairOpinion]

And what do you suggest, talking the Mullahs to death?

The UN is not getting anywhere -- these are not people where diplomacy can work.

Or should we wait until Iran nukes Israel?

[FairOpinion]

And what do you suggest, talking the Mullahs to death?

The UN is not getting anywhere -- these are not people where diplomacy can work.

Or should we wait until Iran nukes Israel?

[johnny7]

Not since 1938... has the danger been so clear... and the response so inadequate.

[NonValueAdded]

Actually, I hope more people recognize that WW III - the Cold War - was fought and won by America. We lost the Battle of Vietnam in that one but won the war.

[MNJohnnie]

Absurd hysterics by the Rabid Know Nothings. Counter Insurgency is NOT Total War. Way past time the Arm Chair Pattons tone done their Drama Queen Hysterics and get a grip on reality.

[Calpernia]

>>>Or should we wait until Iran nukes Israel?

JMO, I don't think they will. Not that the Mullah's aren't mad enough to do it. I think whoever is holding their leash will keep them from doing it.

Bush said something once and I'm paraphrasing.

If someone launches a nuke, we would bomb whomever created the material.

If we do a preemptive strike, the politics on it can be spun. If Iran does a preemptive strike, it will be all out there for all to see everyone that had their hands involved.

Relevant:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1677105/posts?page=9#9
Iranian Source: North Korean 'Experts' Helped Hizballah Build Tunnel Network
Correction: Correcting source date -- Report by Ali Nuri Zadah: "Iranian Officer: Hizballah Has Naval Commandos Unit"
Al-Sharq al-Awsat (Internet Version-WWW)
Wednesday, August 2, 2006

[tx_eggman]

She wants to bomb it seems, everyone, everywhere.

Not everyone, everywhere ... just the jackals

Take a peek over here, enlighten yourself

Victor David Hanson: The Brink of Madness

[tallhappy]

This is WWIII and it started 911.

Cold War is not WWIII and that sort of navel gazing self mythologizing simply detracts.

[Alberta's Child]

If this is World War III (or IV), it began long before 9/11. In fact, it has its roots way back in the post-colonial era that began after World War II.

The dispute between the U.S. and Iran dates way back to 1953, when the Eisenhower administration supported a British effort to topple the duly-elected government of Mohammed Mossadegh and install the Shah as the head of state.

[Former Proud Canadian]

A formal declaration of war against Iran, Iraq, Hezzbollah, Hamas, and Al Queda is LONG overdue. Declare war against these entities. Let the president pursue the war as he see fit. USE EVERY WEAPON IN THE ARSENAL TO WIN THE WAR. Win the war and be done with it.

Once these countries and their surrogates have been dealt with, settle North Korea's hash.

[ASA Vet]

Now were in WWIV? Just last week we had WWIII.

The folks trying to dub this one III slept though the 50's, 60', and 70's. We lost almost 100,000 KIA in III.

[tallhappy]

Nice left wing analysis on your part.

[Restorer]

1953, when the Eisenhower administration supported a British effort to topple the duly-elected government of Mohammed Mossadegh and install the Shah as the head of state.

The Shah was already head of state. Mossadegh, until losing out in the competitive coup business, was head of government.

The 1953 events are much more complicated than just the evil Americans removing a democratic leader. There was plenty of indigenous opposition to the guy.

[APRPEH]

we keep waiting for the mad-mullahs of Iran to fall from inside in an internal reaction or counter-revolution. i am starting to think that this too is propaganda.

[Restorer]

This poor lady is hyperventilating. WWIII (or IV) hasn't started yet. We're still in the equivalent of the late 30s, with the various crises in the Rhineland, Czechoslovakia, Austria, etc.

We don't want to fight a war, so we keep hoping it will go away if we refuse to recognize that it's approaching.

Luckily the jihadists pose no real threat to America as a nation. They do not have and will not develop the ability to defeat us.

Hitler, OTOH, came very close to winning his war, which could probably have resulted int the eventual conquest of the US.

[Tancred]

Counter Insurgency is NOT Total War

May I suggest that we look at the big picture, not just what is going on in Iraq, but what the people in the Islamic countries are doing? Every day they are engaged in spreading propaganda; supplying arms, intelligence, & funds to terrorist groups; demanding that Muslims in Western countries be accorded special status; encouraging non-assimilation, conversion, and growth of their own numbers; and very intent on acquiring nuclear weapons of their own. They are engaged in total war against us; it behooves us to take them seriously. They want to destroy us & they think they have a strategy that will work.

It's past time to cut this Gordian knot & go after Iran.

[ASA Vet]

This poor lady is hyperventilating

Should she be told to keep clam?

[Calpernia]

Relevant:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1677031/posts
The New Left, Cultural Marxism, and Psychopolitics Disguised as Multiculturalism

Also relevant:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676159/posts
The Syrian-Iraqi Baath party and its Nazi beginnings

Excerpt:

In Arabic, baath means renaissance or resurrection. The Baath Arab Socialist Party, to give the organisation its formal title, is the original secular Arab nationalist movement, founded in Damascus in the 1940s to combat Western colonial rule.

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>>>>But the rise of German fascism also played a role. Many in the Arab world saw Hitler as an ally.

Where was Hitler from?

The Victory of Socialism in the Soviet Union (1925-1941 )

On April 28, 1945, Hitler married Braun and wouldn't/couldn't produce Aryanian Citizenship papers.

He supposedly died on April 30, 1945. Was his death/disappearance because he couldn't produce papers?

Hitler's Islamic name was Abu Ali