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9/11 book rankles Presbyterian faith
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | August 18, 2006 | Julia Duin

Posted on 08/18/2006 7:35:28 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

A book suggesting the September 11 attacks were engineered by the U.S. government is raising hackles among the faithful because its publisher is an agency of the Presbyterian Church (USA), the largest of several Presbyterian denominations.

The book has attracted volumes of criticism, boycott threats and attempted clarifications by various church officials.

The book represents the latest conflict within a denomination that in June voted that local congregations could decide to ordain homosexual clergy and that the Trinity, described for centuries as "Father, Son and Holy Ghost," could also be called "Mother, Child and Womb."

Yesterday the book, listed under PPC's Westminster John Knox imprint, was ranked No. 779 on Amazon.com. Sales spiked higher Aug. 9, when the author appeared on MSNBC with interviewer Tucker Carlson. What sets Mr. Griffin and his book apart from other September 11 conspiracy theorists is his thesis that the church must "get involved in this issue."

He questions whether hijackers were even on the doomed planes and speculates that hidden explosives, not jetliners, brought down the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York.

"Throughout the 1990s, the neocons had laid out the programs needed for a Pax Americana," he said. "It would appear," he added, they orchestrated the attacks as "9/11 enabled the neocon program to become official policy."

Certain critics question how the Presbyterians, one of the most staid denominations, became entangled in such theories.

"This is as legitimate as pet rocks," said John H. Adams, editor of the Lenoir, N.C.-based Presbyterian Layman. "We are wondering why our denominational press is picking up on something like this.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911conspiracy; antiamericanism; barkingmoonbats; bookreview; bushhassers; conspiracytheory; lovedclintonswars; pcusa; presbyterian; religion; religiousleft
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The PCUSA Presbyterians seem hell bent to embarrass themselves into oblivion.
1 posted on 08/18/2006 7:35:29 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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You know, the best thing to do is pray for them.


2 posted on 08/18/2006 7:36:40 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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Father, Son and Holy Ghost," could also be called "Mother, Child and Womb."

From today's toons:


3 posted on 08/18/2006 7:36:56 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Just waiting for them to merge with the Unitarians and fully embrace "New Age-ism"


4 posted on 08/18/2006 7:37:08 AM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out Iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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Mother, child and womb. Yer wot?!

To question 9/11 is foolish and stupid.

To wantonly blaspheme is to risk the fires of hell.

What do they think they are up to?
5 posted on 08/18/2006 7:38:41 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: netmilsmom

I walked away. Not from my faith but from that illict church. Pro-abort, pro-homosexual, anti-Israel, terrorist sympathizers.


My local church didn't espose such views but who wants to fund that?

If only the muslims who did not agree with their radical clerics also defunded them.


6 posted on 08/18/2006 7:39:06 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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What does their church teach about bearing false witness? How can they publish crap like this that has been refuted in numerous venues - indeed, the terrorists even claimed responsibility.


7 posted on 08/18/2006 7:40:09 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys / Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims)
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Looks like the Presbyterians are competing with the Unitarian/Universalists for members.
8 posted on 08/18/2006 7:41:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Proudly Republican

They've lost their minds (and their way.)


9 posted on 08/18/2006 7:43:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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They did that long ago. This is just icing.


10 posted on 08/18/2006 7:45:40 AM PDT by pissant
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Some of the biggest left-wing loons, in America today, lead Churches.


11 posted on 08/18/2006 7:47:12 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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I'm Presbyterian but this is NOT the church that I grew up in...


12 posted on 08/18/2006 7:48:01 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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Strong delusion.


13 posted on 08/18/2006 7:48:26 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Link: 9/11 book rankles Presbyterian faith

In June [the Presbyterian Church (USA)] voted that ...the Trinity, described for centuries as "Father, Son and Holy Ghost," could also be called "Mother, Child and Womb."

Dammit, that's over the line.  It sez in the Bible itself, "there was no womb for them at the inn."  You know, folks, it's kind of like a McDonald's franchise.  You don't have to buy into it but if you do, you don't go messing around with the ingredients.

Certain critics question how the Presbyterians, one of the most staid denominations, became entangled in such theories

What would we do without certain critics?

14 posted on 08/18/2006 7:49:23 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: gcruse

Need a new Martin Luther to tack up a list of grievances.


15 posted on 08/18/2006 7:50:50 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Lx

Won't belong before the "Casper, the Friendly Ghost" song becomes a Presbyterian hymn.


16 posted on 08/18/2006 7:51:57 AM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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PCUSA = Apostate church

That's why/when the Presbyterian PCA was formed ....

...after leaving mainline Presbyterian over 30 years ago.

Presbyterian PCA is one of the fastest growing denominations in the nation.

17 posted on 08/18/2006 7:52:12 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Gay State Conservative

Heard on local radio news in the last couple of days of a 3000 congregation PresbyUSA leaving that affiliation and joining up with PresbyEvangelical. ??


18 posted on 08/18/2006 7:53:01 AM PDT by maxter
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That's why/when the Presbyterian PCA was formed ....

Exactly. When the PCA church formed in 1972 (if memory served), most of the folks who were solid on doctrine went with it. PCUSA lurched way, way, WAY out to the left. Now, they're nothing but moonbats, and they're hemorhagging members.

19 posted on 08/18/2006 7:55:20 AM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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Certain critics question how the Presbyterians, one of the most staid denominations, became entangled in such theories.

It's very simple, really. Back in the early 70s, many Presbyterians noticed their denomination starting to lose focus and ignore doctrine for the sake of politics. So, they left - and got back to the roots of Reformed theology. When the solid core left, the remnant became a shambles.

20 posted on 08/18/2006 7:57:46 AM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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