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Mel Gibson does deal on DUI
Life Style UK ^ | 18 August 2006

Posted on 08/18/2006 9:59:50 AM PDT by Hal1950

LIFE STYLE EXTRA (UK) - Mel Gibson has escaped jail after pleading guilty to drunk driving.

The 'Mad Max' star agreed a plea bargain with prosecutors on Thursday (17.08.06) and in return was given three years probation, ordered to attend Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and told to enrol in an alcohol abuse programme for three months.

Mel - who was also fined $1,300 and had his driving license restricted for 90 days - was arrested on July 28 after being pulled over on Pacific Coast Highway, in Maui, for speeding.

He then launched into an anti-Semitic tirade, during which he allegedly said: "Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world."

Afterwards, the 50-year-old actor profusely apologised for his comments.

Mel said: "I acted like a persson completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable.

"I am deeply ashamed of everything I said, and I apologise to anyone who I have offended."

Mel - who signed the plea agreement and waived his right to a jury trial on Monday (14.08.06) - did not appear in court for the hearing. His lawyer Blair Berk entered the plea on his behalf.

Malibu's deputy district attorney Gina Satriano said in a statement: "This was an appropriate outcome which addresses all the public safety concerns of drinking and driving."


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To: veronica

So now you are another one who believes the New York Post?? Don't you know you can't believe Page Six?
Sorry wrong!!!
The original story appeared in The Readers Digest in which Mel Gibson did an interview with Peggy Noonan. February 2004. The quote is-My father never lied to be about my religion. The New York Post is a rag, not much above the National Enquierer. They altered the quote.

As far as working for publicists and clients of publicists, the same goes here. I know Alan Nierob personally, and he is one of THE classiest men in all of Hollywood. Devoutly Jewish, and he would NOT have a client who he believed was an anti-Semite. I don't care how much money he was making off of him. He has ancestors who are Holacoust victims, and he loves Mel Gibson as a brother. NOT as a client.


101 posted on 08/23/2006 10:01:09 AM PDT by brigada
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To: veronica

Veronica, I could not say that better myself. I always distrusted Gibson because of his father and was puzzled by whydevout Christians - whom he disdains - embraced him. This man, after all, does not believe that his Anglican wife is going to Heaven. As for Spielberg, Streisand, the other phonies who sympathize with the terrorists - I have zero use for them and won't see their films or listen to their lousy records. I refused to see Speilberg's movie Munich and have no use for self-hater Tony Kushner.


102 posted on 08/23/2006 10:30:14 AM PDT by juliej (juliej)
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To: brigada

I will answer that question: because anti-Semitism is a disease whether it is in the form of Holocaust denial, "anti-Zionism" or the nutty idea that "Jews start all the wars". (did that include the War of 1812?) Why do you defend this guy?


103 posted on 08/23/2006 10:32:45 AM PDT by juliej (juliej)
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To: brigada

My impression of Jesus, whom Gibson claims he worships, is that he was not a wuss and would have told Gibson and his father a few things!


104 posted on 08/23/2006 10:34:20 AM PDT by juliej (juliej)
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To: brigada

You are a bit naive about Hollywood, methinks.


105 posted on 08/23/2006 11:04:05 AM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: juliej

I liked Mel Gibson as an actor, way back when. He was compelling on screen. But like Tom Cruise, who he really is as a person has been revealed, and it's not pretty, IMO.


106 posted on 08/23/2006 11:05:48 AM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: brigada; juliej; veronica
Dueling quotes

"My dad taught me my faith, and I believe what he taught me. The man never lied to me in his life." - New York Post, January 30, 2004

or

The quote is-My father never lied to be about my religion.

Alongside Hutton’s many pernicious views on topics like the Holocaust, which didn’t happen, and 9/11, done by remote control, is Hutton’s “religion”, which encompasses the existence of a worldwide Jewish/Masonic conspiracy which has taken control of the Vatican, in the interest of establishing a single worldwide government and religion. All Popes since the Second Vatican Council are, of course, illegitimate.

It seems to me that either Hutton lied to Mel about his “religion”, or Mel shares those views, which sadly tie directly into Hutton’s worldview.

Personally, given the fact that he’s apologized, it would seem to me sensible to see how he acts in the future. The statement about his dad was apparently a mistake.

BTW, what “Devoutly Jewish” is I don’t know, but the idea that a Jew wouldn’t have business dealings with a suspected antisemite is silly.

Is the Jew still actively anti-Christian -He is, for by being a Jew, he is anti everyone else.
Hutton Gibson

107 posted on 08/23/2006 11:06:51 AM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: juliej
I will answer that question: because anti-Semitism is a disease whether it is in the form of Holocaust denial, "anti-Zionism" or the nutty idea that "Jews start all the wars". (did that include the War of 1812?) Why do you defend this guy?

Particularly if you believe all three. I presume all wars would include the War of 1812. If we’re to believe Goebbels diary entries during the Wannsee Conference, starting WWI and WWII was enough to earn the Jews extermination. Other than to the Huttons of the world, of course, who know the Jews just moved to New York, LA and Sydney.

108 posted on 08/23/2006 11:12:28 AM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: veronica

Veronica,

Knock off, you know so much Hollywood crap. It is getting a little tiresome. I would wager I am just as involved in Hollywood as you are. I noticed you didn't reply to the fact that you had put up phony quotes from that rag the New York Post.
As I said, I would wager I am just as involved in Hollywood as you are. As I said, I know key people who are involved in the the Gibson case, and know people who know Mr. Nieorb personally.

Come off your high horse Veronica.


109 posted on 08/23/2006 11:32:37 AM PDT by brigada
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To: juliej

Me thinks that you don't know what Jesus would have said. Me thinks that only Jesus knows that, and that only Jesus knows that.
And methinks that Jesus would have been mighty proud of the movie that Mel Gibson made, and that Jesus will see what Mr. Gibson does with the rest of his life. Which is what the rest of us should do.

When someone apologizes, for something hateful that they have done, it is funny, because sometimes it brings out the hatefulness in everyone else. And other people's hate is revealed.

Again Julie, you STILL can't answer the question... you don't care about Mel Gibson, but you CAN't stop posting about. I still think you are in love with him!!!
Oh, come on Julie, you can admit it!!


110 posted on 08/23/2006 11:36:13 AM PDT by brigada
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To: SJackson
BTW, what “Devoutly Jewish” is I don’t know, but the idea that a Jew wouldn’t have business dealings with a suspected antisemite is silly.

Especially in Hollywood. Though Mel may find a few people who don't want to work with him now. At least for a while. Damage control is one specific thing publicists do, so they especially can't turn up their noses at potential clients. I think we see in the case of Tom Cruise, how catastrophic it can be when actors control their own PR. Particularly if they are wackos.

111 posted on 08/23/2006 11:44:33 AM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: SJackson
According to Hutton Gibson, there were actually more Jews in Europe after WWII, than before. Lots of sex romps going on in the "work camps" like Auschwitz, I guess.
112 posted on 08/23/2006 11:47:31 AM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: veronica

Hutton Gibson has a screw loose. A goods friend of mine went to school with a cousin of that family. He said his uncle was the smartest person he ever knew- but he was completely crazy.


113 posted on 08/23/2006 11:49:19 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: veronica
According to Hutton Gibson, there were actually more Jews in Europe after WWII, than before. Lots of sex romps going on in the "work camps" like Auschwitz, I guess

And that's AFTER 6 million moved to the US and Australia.

114 posted on 08/23/2006 11:49:40 AM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: nickcarraway; veronica

Several screws loose. Ironically he's not done all that well with his mental "gifts", he never achieved any real prominance in the denier community, even in Australia, other than that based on his last name.


115 posted on 08/23/2006 11:52:04 AM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: nickcarraway
Hutton Gibson has a screw loose. A goods friend of mine went to school with a cousin of that family. He said his uncle was the smartest person he ever knew- but he was completely crazy.

Well, at least he's not a liar on top of it. At least according to Mel, anyway.

116 posted on 08/23/2006 11:57:40 AM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: veronica

Yes, I suppose you would like it better if he denounced his father, and broke a commandment. Would that make you feel better Veronica? O.K. well Veronica, you are a really great person. A really BIG person, full of forgiveness. You know you need to listen to someone like Michael Medved, or get a hold of Jackie Mason article on this situation. You know everyone talks about how what Mel said was hateful, but I have to say that his critics are just as hateful. You want Mr. Gibson to denounce his almost 90 year old father. What wonderful people you are. And how very commited you are to The TEN Commandments!!!


117 posted on 08/23/2006 12:04:24 PM PDT by brigada
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To: SJackson
Probably because of his, "mental issues." It's pretty late to teach an old dog new tricks, but hopefully, even at this late stage, he could join us on planet earth.

he never achieved any real prominance in the denier community

Gee, it never even occurred to me that one could achieve "prominence" for that.

118 posted on 08/23/2006 12:08:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: veronica

Well, I guess he isn't a liar if he actually believes it, no matter how crazy it is.


119 posted on 08/23/2006 12:09:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: veronica

Thank you for explaining to us what publicists do Veronica. We all needed you to do that. Alan Nierob is more than just Mel's publicist. He is his dear friend. Mel was present at Alan's son's bris, and Alan will be present at Alan will be present at Mel's daughter Hannah's wedding this fall.
As I said earlier Alan's Jewish grandparents were murdered in World War II, and Mel is one of his closest friends. Alan is a very religious (all right you don't like the word devout) Jew.


120 posted on 08/23/2006 12:09:15 PM PDT by brigada
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To: brigada; veronica

I'm don't think reproving a parent for something that calls for it, means breaking the Fifth Commandment. In fact, I think that commandment means we shouldn't support our parents in immoral things. I wouldn't have a problem doing so if it was my Father, however, I know many people that can't do this with their parents. They will not criticize them, even for behavior they normally would be critical of, so I don't expect everyone to do that.


121 posted on 08/23/2006 12:13:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Many people, and I think many people in the media and on this board, will not be satisfied until Mr. Gibson PUBLICLY denounces his almost 90 year old father. Personally, I think that is wrong and can't believe anyone else what feel otherwise. We have no idea what Mr. Gibson has said to his father in private.
I also have criticized my parents in private, but publicly I would NEVER do so.


122 posted on 08/23/2006 12:18:43 PM PDT by brigada
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To: nickcarraway; brigada; veronica
I'm don't think reproving a parent for something that calls for it, means breaking the Fifth Commandment. In fact, I think that commandment means we shouldn't support our parents in immoral things. I wouldn't have a problem doing so if it was my Father, however, I know many people that can't do this with their parents. They will not criticize them, even for behavior they normally would be critical of, so I don't expect everyone to do that.

From a Jewish perspective, clearly one shouldn't cause a parent undue public embarrassment, even at a cost to oneself (not necessarily others), that would transgress revering one’s parent. However as you note, a child would not only be allowed, but required to oppose a parent committing a serious transgression.

In Judaism, slander is equated the taking of life in terms of the seriousness of the harm caused. A child should no more permit a parent to publicly slander than they would permit a parent to steal or kill.

In my view from a moral perspective, Mel had an obligation to renounce his father’s views, particularly since his father claimed to be involved in the marketing of the film. From a practical standpoint I understand why he didn’t publicly, I’d like to think he did in private conversation, though I’m a bit skeptical of that now.

I’d be surprised if Christianity differed much on the issue.

123 posted on 08/23/2006 12:25:36 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: SJackson

I don't know where you got your information that the senior Gibson was involved in the marketing of the film. He is almost 90 years old, and lives in West Virgina. Whatever your source, I am sure it is bogus, like so many things that have been posted here on this subject.


124 posted on 08/23/2006 12:30:11 PM PDT by brigada
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To: brigada
I don't know where you got your information that the senior Gibson was involved in the marketing of the film. He is almost 90 years old, and lives in West Virgina. Whatever your source, I am sure it is bogus, like so many things that have been posted here on this subject.

From Hutton himself. He claims to be involved in the idea of a "Vatican endorsement". He may well have been lieing. Unfortunately Nierob responded with a no comment to Hutton's interview, so we'll never know.

Why did the ADL oppose the film?

Gibson

This is part of their deal they don't want this movie shown they don't care if the movie is anti-Semitic or not, or if it is straight history. Mel says he absolutely couldn't buy PR like this. And (thanks to the ADL) everybody knows the line now: Let the blood be upon us and our children.

IX. The Pope & The Vatican

Steve Feuerstein

What do you aim to achieve by screening the film before the vatican Ð Why did you need the Pope's Approval?

Gibson

And anyway somebody said why do you suppose he (the Pope) approved the movie? I said what do you think he would say when it comes out and he disapproved it.

The ones that we have there (in the Vatican) are all involved in the (Jewish) plot. The need of the Vatican endorsement wasn't, it just wasn't needed at all. The only reason they went over is that the ADL had threatened to take the film over and show it to them.

They would have to steal it to do so they did already. One of the guys in the office said why don't we take it over to the Vatican and show it to them anyway cause they wanted to see it and they did want to see it. And Mel said "OK lets take it over and show it to them." They were not after any accolade. They just wanted to take it away from the ADL who was going to go in there and put some pressure on like they can and get a condem-nation of it.

No, no we had no idea of helping out the Vatican in any way. You see here we have what we call a hostile witness. As Mel said while they were on the way over, "What is he going to say is he going to condemn it because when it comes out he'll show what a big ass he is." What the heck could he say? The Jews were going to take it to the Vatican this was the argument from one his producers there, Steve McEveety. Mel said "Go ahead. Let us do it." The ADL might have even taken a few shots themselves and shown the Pope something that was not in the film. There is nothing these guys would not do

125 posted on 08/23/2006 12:41:44 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: SJackson

Now I know that his a bogus report. Hutton Gibson would NEVER be involved in a "Vatican endorsement". Hutton Gibson despises the Vatican has it is right now. He operates outside of the Vatican, and the Holy See. Haven't you read anything about Hutton?
Steve Feurestein is the radio broadcaster who called Hutton days before The Passion came out and ambushed him into talking to him. He didn't even know he was on the radio.
Steve McEveety, one of Gibson's producers is who Hutton was tallking about with the "Vatican endorsement".


126 posted on 08/23/2006 12:58:08 PM PDT by brigada
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To: SJackson

That's strange. I had never heard that the Hitton Gibson was involved in the marketing. It would be especially stange if he was involved in getting Vatican approval, since he's a vehement critic of the Vatican and may not believe they are legitmate.


127 posted on 08/23/2006 1:10:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: brigada
Now I know that his a bogus report. Hutton Gibson would NEVER be involved in a "Vatican endorsement". Hutton Gibson despises the Vatican has it is right now. He operates outside of the Vatican, and the Holy See. Haven't you read anything about Hutton? Steve Feurestein is the radio broadcaster who called Hutton days before The Passion came out and ambushed him into talking to him. He didn't even know he was on the radio. Steve McEveety, one of Gibson's producers is who Hutton was tallking about with the "Vatican endorsement".

Nonsense, he wasn't ambushed, he knew precisely what he was saying. His commentary was widely reported. And I made a point of listening to the interview live, in anticipation of the "he didn't say it" nonsense. What Hutton said in the interview is consistant with previous statements. And you'll note his contempt for the Vatican and the Pope in the interview. It's an accurate condensation of Hutton's worldview.

If it makes you feel better to consider the interviow "bogus", you're welcome to call me a liar.

128 posted on 08/23/2006 1:13:27 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: nickcarraway
That's strange. I had never heard that the Hitton Gibson was involved in the marketing. It would be especially stange if he was involved in getting Vatican approval, since he's a vehement critic of the Vatican and may not believe they are legitmate.

You can find his interview here. That may well have been hot air. I presented it as an example of why, in my opinion, Hutton's views should have been confronted at the time of the film. He was implying involvement, and frankly his newfound publicity was solely because of the controversy surrounding the film. I wouldn't attribute Hutton's views of the Vatican as Jewish occupied territory or the Pope as illegitimate to Mel, but one states that he learned his faith from his father, it becomes a rather obvious question.

129 posted on 08/23/2006 1:17:57 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: brigada
Arnold Schwarzenegger very much distanced himself from his father's Nazi past.

"I love my father but he is dead wrong about the Holocaust."

That's all it takes.

130 posted on 08/23/2006 1:31:28 PM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: SJackson

When I say ambushed, I mean that he didn't know that he was on the air. He is an old man. If you feel that is all right, to be calling the elderly parents of celebrities, and putting them on the air, then perhaps that says more about you than it does about Hutton Gibson or Mel Gibson. The man is almost 90 years old. Why don't they just leave him alone? There is absolutley no reason to even be interviewing him. Does anybody ever ask that question? People in the media like the controversey. And especially in the media who didn't like The Passion of The Christ. Just as Bill O'Reilly said at the time-people have known for 20 years that Hutton Gibson had some strange ideas, and nobody gave a damn. It was only when The Passion came out, that people started calling Hutton Gibson.


131 posted on 08/23/2006 1:35:23 PM PDT by brigada
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To: SJackson
Mel Gibson has also bought into that BS you read at Jewhating sites about the Holocaust numbers, based on erroneous reports regarding the numbers changing at Auschwitz.

To wit, a quote from Gibson re: The Holocaust - "The thing with him [my father] was that he was talking about numbers. I mean when the war was over they said it was 12 million. Then it was six. Now it's four. I mean it's that kind of numbers game." Readers Digest 2004[2]

It is simply untrue that the numbers have changed. To say nothing of referring to the Holocaust as a game.

132 posted on 08/23/2006 1:38:50 PM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: SJackson
More on the so-called shrinking numbers "game."

How many people died at Auschwitz?

133 posted on 08/23/2006 1:45:47 PM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: veronica

Arnold Schwarznegger's situation is very different. Mel is not a pol.
Mel's father is alive not dead.
Arnold despised his father, he has said so on numerous occassions. His father treated him terribly, even beating him, his brother and his mother.
If Mel did what you said, it still wouldn't be enough for those of you who want to beat every last pulp out of him. Mel is loyal to his father. As Mel has stated about his father in that same Reader's Digest interview to Peggy Noonan, "My father was orphaned when he was two years old, he grew up poor, he fought in World War II, he came back and married my mother and had 10 children. He was always a good and loyal father.

Personally, I respect Mel Gibson for not disrespecting his father publicly. You can say whatever you want, and what he COULD have said. I still don't think it would have been enough for you, or those like you.


134 posted on 08/23/2006 1:47:08 PM PDT by brigada
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To: brigada
When I say ambushed, I mean that he didn't know that he was on the air. He is an old man. If you feel that is all right, to be calling the elderly parents of celebrities, and putting them on the air, then perhaps that says more about you than it does about Hutton Gibson or Mel Gibson. The man is almost 90 years old. Why don't they just leave him alone? There is absolutley no reason to even be interviewing him. Does anybody ever ask that question? People in the media like the controversey. And especially in the media who didn't like The Passion of The Christ. Just as Bill O'Reilly said at the time-people have known for 20 years that Hutton Gibson had some strange ideas, and nobody gave a damn. It was only when The Passion came out, that people started calling Hutton Gibson.

He most certainly did know he was on the air. If you recall, he gave several print interviews at the time as well.

As to Bill O’Reilly, he’s wrong. People did give a damn. Not as big a damn, he was a minor figure, but he came in for a great deal of criticism. As has the Adelaide Institute with which he’s occasionally associated. But no, in the US he wasn’t known much, even after moving here, a quarterly newsletter, occasional shortwave interview, but not a lot of prominence.

Like it or not, the film brought him some prominence. A higher profile, keynote speeches at a couple Holocaust denial events, even mainstream print interviews at which he could express his despicable views.

And yes, his higher profile and access to the mainstream media brought more criticism. As it should.

135 posted on 08/23/2006 1:53:50 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: veronica

You're probably right, though his father puts the number at zero.


136 posted on 08/23/2006 1:57:07 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: SJackson

Name one Holocaost denying event he appeared at??
You can say whatever you want, but all of Mel's people say that he did not know that he was on the air. And these media creeps have no reason to be calling him. Again, it says more about you that you think it is all right for these creeps to be callling a senile 90 year old parent of a celebrity than it does about Hutton Gibson.


137 posted on 08/23/2006 2:01:38 PM PDT by brigada
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To: brigada
"Personally, I respect Mel Gibson for not disrespecting his father publicly."..

Exactly. By the same token, I wouldn't want or expect Mel's own children to apologize for his behavior either..

sw

138 posted on 08/23/2006 2:09:58 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: brigada
"My father was orphaned when he was two years old, he grew up poor, he fought in World War II, he came back and married my mother and had 10 children. He was always a good and loyal father.

Cry me a river. That "good and loyal" man denies the deaths of millions of innocent Jews at the hands of the Nazis, which in my opinion is Nazi apologia.

And Mel may not be a pol, but he's a very public figure, and that's his choice. He sought the spotlight and therefore is publically accountable. Goes with the territory.

139 posted on 08/23/2006 2:12:12 PM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: brigada
Name one Holocaost denying event he appeared at??

One?

Hutton was a featured speaker at the 2003 Barnes Review conference. That's Willis Carto's new group, the Liberty Lobby being defunct.

You can say whatever you want, but all of Mel's people say that he did not know that he was on the air. And these media creeps have no reason to be calling him. Again, it says more about you that you think it is all right for these creeps to be callling a senile 90 year old parent of a celebrity than it does about Hutton Gibson.

Whatever, he didn't know he was on the air.

He didn't know the New York Times was a newspaper either when he gave that interview.

After all, he's senile.

I believe Mel has stated his dad is in good health. Recently married at the time of the film if I recall. Are you sure he's senile?

And frankly, even if he is senile which I doubt, when he puts out this rubbish publicly, he's open for criticism.

140 posted on 08/23/2006 2:13:32 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: veronica
Cry me a river. That "good and loyal" man denies the deaths of millions of innocent Jews at the hands of the Nazis, which in my opinion is Nazi apologia.

Actually I find his statements that Alan Greenspan should be hung and that it's near the time that "Americans", the "real Americans", will have to take up arms.

141 posted on 08/23/2006 2:17:06 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: veronica

You know what Veronica, as I said before, well it is true that what Mel Gibson said the night he was drunk was hateful, the people who are critical of him, are just as hateful.

Mel Gibson apologized twice for his remarks (Oh, I forgot you don't believe he wrote those statement), he is seeking help for his problem, now why don't we just see what he does with the rest of his life. I don't know about your religion, but in MY religion, we believe in forgiveness and redemption.

And by the way, if you really want to be accurate (which I know you don't care about, Hutton Gibson never denied the Holocaost.


142 posted on 08/23/2006 2:19:11 PM PDT by brigada
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To: SJackson

He married three years before The Passion came out. Anybody who is almost ninety, and making silly comments like those would have to be senile.
Again, I have no respect for media people calling up parents of celebrities. If it was somebody that you liked and respected, I doubt if you would care for it either.


143 posted on 08/23/2006 2:21:49 PM PDT by brigada
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To: cripplecreek
"My first drunk driving arrest only got me a year of probation and less than $1000 in fines."

Ummm...................your "first"??

144 posted on 08/23/2006 2:24:38 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: brigada

Brigada, you insist on putting this False Idol known as Mel Gibson on a pedastal. And Jesus did not like hateful people which is what Holocaust deniers like Gibson and his dad are. I read the Peggy Noonan interview and Mel made a fool out of himself - and he is making a fool out of his defenders, such as YOU!


145 posted on 08/23/2006 2:25:53 PM PDT by juliej (juliej)
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To: brigada; veronica
How funny.

In post 134 you're citing Mel’s interview

As Mel has stated about his father in that same Reader's Digest interview to Peggy Noonan, "My father was orphaned when he was two years old, he grew up poor, he fought in World War II, he came back and married my mother and had 10 children. He was always a good and loyal father.

Three posts later you’re attacking me, and contending, based on your personal knowledge I presume, that Hutton is senile.

Again, it says more about you that you think it is all right for these creeps to be callling a senile 90 year old parent of a celebrity than it does about Hutton Gibson.

Yet the same interview you cite addresses Hutton’s health a couple lines later

And then other people said, 'Well, he's just an old kook.' He's not an old kook. He's very intelligent. He's in complete possession of all his mental faculties. And if he says something he has a reason why he says it and he can back it up.

Was Hutton senile at the time of the interviews? Was Mel lying? Or, based on your intimate knowledge of the players alluded to earlier in the thread, did you let the cat out of the bag?

Personally I think Mel told the truth, Hutton has his faculties.

146 posted on 08/23/2006 2:26:56 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: RightOnline

First of two but I don't drink anymore. It was easier to quit drinking than to quit driving.


147 posted on 08/23/2006 2:27:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: brigada
Anybody who is almost ninety, and making silly comments like those would have to be senile.

So Hutton is a senile Holocaust denier and Mel is an anti-semite when he's drunk. I think I get it now.

148 posted on 08/23/2006 2:27:19 PM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: brigada

Hutton Gibson is a big time Holocaust denier who also called Pope John Paul II the "Koran Kisser". According to Hudson, the Nazis could "not have killed so many Jews . . . because they are living in Brooklyn"! Brigada, I think you are a Holocaust denier - you are known by the company you keep. You have problems, dear. In my religion we believe in REAL CONTRITION - not the CHEAP CRUMMY KIND that you advocate.


149 posted on 08/23/2006 2:28:12 PM PDT by juliej (juliej)
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To: juliej

No Julie you are the fool, by continuing to come here and post about a man that you continue to say you don't care about. I will ask you for the fifth time-why are you posting about a man you don't care about???


150 posted on 08/23/2006 2:28:37 PM PDT by brigada
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