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Not all polls predicting doom for GOP
The Washington Times ^ | 08/21/06 | David Lambro

Posted on 08/21/2006 10:45:35 AM PDT by Starman417

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To: Outland

You're more imaginative than I am. When pollsters call, I just tell 'em I don't do polls, add God Bless You, and hang up.


21 posted on 08/21/2006 11:18:55 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Starman417
Questions you'll never see or hear in a Democrat/MSM poll:

If Iraq is a breeding ground for terrorists, will it stop being one if America abandons it to the terrorists?

Is it wrong for the Main Stream Media to ignore copious documentary evidence of WMD shipped to Syria from Iraq, and extensive connections to the Saddam regime with Al Qaida?

Will American retreat in Iraq and the Middle East benefit the terrorists?

Do you believe that defeat is the best way to achieve victory?

22 posted on 08/21/2006 11:20:07 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: kesg

--A GOPer who thinks that his party is not conservative enough is not going to vote liberal Democrat.--

You're absolutely right, but that conservative may stay home and not vote, which is basically +1 vote for the Democrat.


23 posted on 08/21/2006 11:20:19 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: Starman417

What the pollsters are not addressing is the fact that although many have an attitude of "let's just throw the incumbents out," they don't actually want to get rid of the incumbent who represents THEM. The GOP was able to take over Congress in 94 because of the "Contract with America," we were actually offering something. The left isn't offering anything and people will realize that in November.


24 posted on 08/21/2006 11:22:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Starman417

The best reason for the GOP holding a political office is that the person in that office is subjected to overwhelming scrutiny, mostly by the media. Not really much wrong with this actually. The big problem is that if the office holder is RAT, the scrutiny is underwhelming, big time. The media lies for him. So, keep the GOP guy in and find out more about what he's up to. (It'll drive the drive by- MSM nuts too.)


25 posted on 08/21/2006 11:24:18 AM PDT by Waco
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To: Common Tator

I like what you say...Rove is a good man and Dubya is a smart man to use him well!


26 posted on 08/21/2006 11:27:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Don Corleone

Did the MSM/DEMs still believe the GOP stealing the 2004 election since the poll showed the DEMs were in the lead!!!


27 posted on 08/21/2006 11:29:13 AM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Common Tator

The exit polls on Election Day 2004 allegedly had Kerry winning PA overwhelmingly and identified SC as "too close to call".

Those polls had to be doctored more than Exhibit A in a Dan Rather hit piece.

People would be no worse off asking Mistress Cleo how to think or vote than by following contemporary polls. Finding an honest poll is like finding an innocent man in the legislature -- purely an accident.


28 posted on 08/21/2006 11:37:09 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: Don Corleone

I seldom pay attention to polls. It's up to the American people when they enter to voting booth. And I do have faith in the American people to do the right thing. We have made mistakes in the past (Carter and Clinton come readily to mind), but we rectified that.


29 posted on 08/21/2006 2:29:29 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: You Dirty Rats
Exit polls and telephone polls are two entirely different animals.

Exit polls are done by asking each person who leaves bellwether precinct for whom they voted. Exit polls were done by a consortium paid for by the media directly. The big problem is they have to hire pollsters who only work 1 or 2 days a year. They hired them by putting ads in newspapers. The Democrats simply sent people to apply for the jobs.

On election day in 2000 they faked the exit poll numbers showing Gore doing very well. There was a safe guard. The some of the belwether precincts have a history of reporting in quite early. The exit poll workers were to call in these actual counts. If the exit poll for that precinct and the the actual vote agreed then they assumed that all the exit polls were accurate.

The Democrats just called in fake actual numbers that matched the fake exit poll numbers...so the media went with them. The bush campaign determined that the so called "actual" numbers being used by the media did not agree with the numbers filed with teh secretary of states office.

In 2004 they claimed to have it fixed. WE assumed they were going to do background checks on the people hired to do the exit polls. But if they did it did not work. Once again the Democrats reported fake exit polls and called in fake "actual" results. The media did not fall this time and stopped funding the company that ran the Exit polls. "Voters News Service" is no longer in business and exit polls are a thing of the past.

But exit polls are conducted with entirely different methods from telephone polls. There was only one company doing exit polls and they are not out of business.

30 posted on 08/21/2006 2:33:51 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: GianniV
The times that Democrats have won is when Republicans stay home. But republicans do not stay home when there are problems. They stay home when times are good and we are at peace.

The last time we had a similar situation was in 1972. In 1968 Nixon won the white house by a vote of 31.7 million to 31.2 million for Hubert Humphreys. But with the Vietnam quagmire on the ballot and a Democrat pushing Cut and Run Nixon won over McGovern by a margin of 47 million to 29 million. But by 1976 the Republican vote had failed to 39 million and Carter won.

Democrats are hoping to nationalize this falls elections. If they succeed history says they will lose bigger than they did in 1972.

What has changed is the Republicans are no longer depending on the issues to motivate voters. They are using the same techinques democrats have been using for years.

The problem for Democrats is Cut and Run does not play well with working class voters.They come out to vote for stay the course.

The Democrats got Nixon... they think they got him on the war. But that is not true. They got him on corruption.

31 posted on 08/21/2006 2:52:24 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator

I understand that exit polls are conducted differently. The fact that exit polls have been doctored is worrysome, because these results are checked against actual results within hours.

In my job I see a lot of numbers and I have to analyze them and discuss results. After many years of doing this it is easy to see when the numbers coming in are BS and there is a problem with them. When I heard the networks say in 2004 that SC was close my BS meter maxed out and I stopped worrying about what the exit polls said. The story they were telling just made no sense -- Kerry wasn't going to be close in SC and we all knew it.

Yet the 'Rats doctored the exit polling process -- knowing that the truth would come out soon.

In the case of polls taken by phone on the President's approval and other matters, there is no objective way of counting the population like we do in the actual ballot. Therefore it's much easier to have bias (intentional or not) in the poll and easier to manipulate the result.

Bottom line is that the 'Rats have no integrity, and neither do their supporting institutions. They cheat because they believe they are in the right and thus anything is justified. How else can we explain the illegitimate presence of Lautencadaver in the US Senate?


32 posted on 08/21/2006 2:56:26 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: Starman417

My favorite part...

"Different questions get different answers," he said.

DUHHHHHHH!!!! YA THINK?????????????
Why is this only news to Media and liberals???????

I think we're starting to see these type of articles now, because things are not going well in Democratic Party Pollsterland anymore...

Internals at most of these "Polls" keep getting scewed farther and farther to get the result the want, and it's losing touch with REALITY....


33 posted on 08/21/2006 3:11:02 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: wagglebee

I would only that the so-called "anti-incumbant" mood is overrated. For one thing, it isn't clear at which incumbents this alleged anger is directed. The stupid media and the DNC (sorry for the redundancy) assume that because there are more Republicans than Democrats, they benefit. But it isn't necessarily so. Not by a long shot.

Moreover, things are actually just fine for most people in their personal lives. The lamestream media and the DNC (again sorry for the redundancy) spend a great deal of time and energy trying to convince people that things are a nightmare. But again, it just isn't so. And when we get closer to the election and serious people (the ones who actually vote) get serious about the election, the GOP will be fine.


34 posted on 08/21/2006 10:07:15 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Don Corleone

""Only 41 percent of Americans believe that Democratic leaders in Congress 'would move the country in the right direction,' " Mark Preston, CNN's political editor, writes on the network's Web site. That is slightly less than the 43 percent of Americans who believe that Republican leaders in Congress 'would move the country in the right direction.' "

This is pretty good news actually.


35 posted on 08/21/2006 10:10:23 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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