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Buchanan warns of illegal overload
Washington Times ^ | Aug. 22, 2006 | Eric Pfeiffer

Posted on 08/22/2006 5:23:26 AM PDT by conservativecorner

Pat Buchanan says illegal immigration from poor and developing countries will overwhelm the United States and other Western countries in the next 50 years unless something is done.

"We've already won the battle with the public," Mr. Buchanan tells The Washington Times. "The question is, when will the government respond?"

In his new book "State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America," the former presidential candidate and White House speechwriter examines immigration-related social problems and documents high levels of support among Hispanics for the so-called "Reconquista" of the U.S. Southwest.

Several authors have addressed the immigration issue in recent years, but Mr. Buchanan's book -- ranked No. 2 at Amazon.com yesterday -- proposes measures to address the "emergency" that are more far-reaching than any legislation advocated by conservatives in Congress.

His plan includes deporting illegal aliens with criminal backgrounds, a 10-year limit on legal immigration set between 150,000 and 200,000 persons per year, and a $10 billion, 2,000-mile security fence along the border of the United States and Mexico.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bookreview; immigrantlist; nusk; patbuchanan; patisstillloco; pitchforkpat; stateofemergency; stoppedclock
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1 posted on 08/22/2006 5:23:26 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner


Buchanan is Hannity and Homely's guest tonight.


2 posted on 08/22/2006 5:24:33 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: conservativecorner

"His plan includes deporting illegal aliens with criminal backgrounds, a 10-year limit on legal immigration set between 150,000 and 200,000 persons per year, and a $10 billion, 2,000-mile security fence along the border of the United States and Mexico."

Buchanan BUMP.


3 posted on 08/22/2006 5:26:19 AM PDT by reelfoot
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To: conservativecorner

as much as I disagree with Buchanan on many issues,
he is spot on regarding illegals.
We are going to have to "clean house" of illegals including the incarcerated...after we secure BOTH borders.
We may have to wait until we elect a POTUS who will enforce the immigration laws of this country but it will have to be done!


4 posted on 08/22/2006 5:27:49 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: conservativecorner

50 years?

He's not even close. More like 10 years at the rate it's going now, if anyone even knew the rate it's going right now.


5 posted on 08/22/2006 5:28:46 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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ping for future.
6 posted on 08/22/2006 5:28:53 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: conservativecorner
Boortz discussing Buchanan's book this AM:

A MUST-READ IF, THAT IS, YOU DON'T MIND GETTING UPSET

Pat Buchanan's new book, "State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America" hits the book stores this week. I starter reading it over the weekend .. and the news is not comforting. Buchanan goes to great detail to catalogue the Hispanic invasion of America and the re-conquest of the American Southwest.

How about a few gems from Buchanan's book?

By 2050 there will be more than 100 million Hispanics concentrated in the Southwest that most Mexicans believe was stolen by the united States and still belongs to Mexico.
One in every 12 people entering this country illegally has a criminal record.
President' Bush's legacy may be to have lost forever a Southwest that President James K. Polk won for the United States.
Both parties are paralyzed by guilt over America's racial sins, and lack the will and fortitude of pervious generations to do what is necessary to defend the nation from the Third World in invasion.
Now ... as if the Third World invasion of the U.S. were not enough, we also have the Islamic fascists out there. How about a few bullet points here also?

It is now becoming clear to almost everyone, even Israelis, that Hezbollah came out the winner in it's five-week war with Israel.
Lebanon has made it clear that it will not disarm Hezbollah. Hezbollah has made it clear it will not disarm.
Iran will announce within the next 30 hours that it will not cease it's nuclear enrichment program.
Islamic radicals across the world are feeling hyped right now by Hezbollah's victory, and by the world's condemnation of Israel for it's strong self-defense response.
Let's face it, things are looking a bit iffy in Iraq right now.
The West has delivered an unmistakable message to the Islamic fascists: We will not fight to defend our freedoms if it means that civilians, especially children, will die.
It occurs to me that none of these problems are insurmountable. We have the ability to defeat Islamic terrorism, and we have the ability to turn-back the Third World invasion of the United States. We have the ability ... we just don't have the will.

We'll have Buchanan on as a guest sometime soon. Should be a raucous time.
7 posted on 08/22/2006 5:29:11 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: A. Pole; HiJinx

ping


8 posted on 08/22/2006 5:29:37 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: conservativecorner; sinkspur

ping.


9 posted on 08/22/2006 5:31:23 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: conservativecorner

Dang. The stopped clock knocked one out of the park (if you'll pardon the mixed metaphors...).


10 posted on 08/22/2006 5:31:46 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: conservativecorner; A Balrog of Morgoth

ping.


11 posted on 08/22/2006 5:33:10 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: conservativecorner
One in every 12 people entering this country illegally has a criminal record.

Since they entered the country illegally; they should ALL have criminal records. 45,000 Americans KILLED by illegals since 9/11, but no one seems to care.

12 posted on 08/22/2006 5:35:43 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: conservativecorner
If Mr. Buchanan is against illegal immigration from developing countries only, then he is only mildly racist (as there are also illegal immigrants from developed countries, too). If, however, he is against all immigration from developing countries, and is using the illegal alien topic simply as a pretext for stopping all nonEuropean-descended immigration, then he is flat out racist. From some freepers comments on him, he seems to be the latter.
13 posted on 08/22/2006 5:36:28 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Go tell that to La Raza!
14 posted on 08/22/2006 5:38:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

How accurate are the reports of high level support for a Reconquista? Most Latino immigrants, whether they are legal or illegal, do not seem to strongly support the severance of former Mexican territory back to Mexico. They came to the United States mainly because of economics, not conquest.


15 posted on 08/22/2006 5:39:59 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: reelfoot

All illegal aliens should be deported and any immigrant who commits a crime.


16 posted on 08/22/2006 5:42:06 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: conservativecorner
La Raza is racist. And your point is.... what exactly? If one side is racist, then the other side must not be racist?

Also, La Raza is not the Race when put into English, although that is what it appears to be from an American perspective. Also, are most Latino immigrants members of La Raza? (rhetorical).

17 posted on 08/22/2006 5:43:55 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: All

Hmm, I believe illegal immigration has been a problem for many, many years. Why all the hoopla now? The Democrats don't believe there is a terrorist threat and we are bringing in labor for jobs we Americans won't do. So, it's no big deal! As for Buchanan and the rest of them, get the message, this is another bandwagon for those political and media whores to jump on. When was the last time any politician knocked on your door and said hello; told you his platform (Federal, State and Local levels). I just don't feel their pain. Oh, I will still go to the polls and cast my ballot, write my congressmen but I trust my cat Smokey more then the majority of these so called caring politicians and media hacks. Is the glass half full or half empty. You be the judge! /sarcasm


18 posted on 08/22/2006 5:44:31 AM PDT by tuvals (America First - Support Our Troops!)
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To: kellynla

I agree with his stand on illegals.....besides that he is a moron of the highest degree


19 posted on 08/22/2006 5:50:16 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: conservativecorner
Pesos NOT Dollars.

Let the Buchanan is a nut case,anti-semtic FR rant,begin.

20 posted on 08/22/2006 5:50:35 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: conservativecorner

Peyote Pat gets it right.


21 posted on 08/22/2006 5:53:43 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: gitmogrunt

Why only antiSemitic? He seems to be racist all around except toward those of European descent.


22 posted on 08/22/2006 5:59:15 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: conservativecorner

You're either for Amnesty or you're against it. Pat picked the right side.


23 posted on 08/22/2006 6:04:28 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: joe fonebone
besides that he is a moron of the highest degree

He is not a moron. Why do you claim that he is?

24 posted on 08/22/2006 6:04:31 AM PDT by A. Pole (GBW: "We're going to help build a virtual border, this border is changing and it needs to change")
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
He seems to be racist all around except toward those of European descent

And were are the examples of his racism?

25 posted on 08/22/2006 6:05:31 AM PDT by A. Pole (GBW: "We're going to help build a virtual border, this border is changing and it needs to change")
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To: conservativecorner

On this issue Buchanan clearly understands what he is talking about. But his personality and his history will unfortunately keep many from giving what he has to say serious consideration.


26 posted on 08/22/2006 6:07:48 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: kellynla
as much as I disagree with Buchanan on many issues, he is spot on regarding illegals.

I was just thinking the exact same thing. lol. DITTO

I hope the data in the book gets plenty of play. However, much of the data has been published in articles. So it really isn't new information to the informed public. Buchanan credits another article writer for actually collected much of the data -- I don't recall that author's name.
27 posted on 08/22/2006 6:19:03 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
How accurate are the reports of high level support for a Reconquista? Most Latino immigrants, whether they are legal or illegal, do not seem to strongly support the severance of former Mexican territory back to Mexico. They came to the United States mainly because of economics, not conquest.

More accurate than the MSM or most politicians will admit. The slow takeover of the southwest has been going on for years. That's the plan. All you need to do is look at California. The LA mayor and the Lt. Governor are both card carrying members of MEChA. Not enough Americans realize just how serious the invasion is.

28 posted on 08/22/2006 6:23:42 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
They came to the United States mainly because of economics, not conquest.

Right. Why would the Mexican poor want to come here, illegally, and work to turn CA or TX or CO into a version of poor Mexico? Azlan may be the dream of radical politicos, but I doubt it is the desire of most Hispanic immigrants. An Azlan would just turn into another 3rd world nation, because its residents would be flooding to the remaining United States.
29 posted on 08/22/2006 6:24:34 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
It seems that Jedi Master Pikachu has pulled it:


Shameless attempt to paint something about a person one disagrees with and make the debate about him, not what is said.

31 posted on 08/22/2006 6:33:08 AM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
La Raza is not racist? It doesn't translate into The Race when put into English? OMG..

The National Council of La Raza's motto is "For The Race (Hispanics-Chicanos) everything. Outside The Race, nothing".

What do you think their motto means? A long distance race to the finish line?

sw

32 posted on 08/22/2006 6:40:26 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: conservativecorner

Pat Buchanan has been preaching the downside of open borders and illegal immigration since the early 1990`s. It was part of his "culture war" political agenda versus Bush41 back in the 92 GOP campaign.


33 posted on 08/22/2006 6:42:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
[ Most Latino immigrants, whether they are legal or illegal, do not seem to strongly support the severance of former Mexican territory back to Mexico. ]

But they are easily lead.. being peons, like they are taught in their language and culture.. The patron(boss) matters little to them.. You know like when they lived in Mexico/Central America.. Mexicos government(s) have always been Mobs.. they know nothing else.. To them Mob Rule(democracy) is the way things should be.. They will be republicans when hell freezes over..

If you think the democrats are NOT mobilizing them(10 to 20 million of them) to vote as we speak.. you must be a liberal already..

34 posted on 08/22/2006 6:59:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: NapkinUser

If you hadn't put that graphic after your statement I was going to differ with you

;^ )


35 posted on 08/22/2006 7:07:31 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: who knows what evil?

"45,000 Americans KILLED by illegals since 9/11"

Significant if correct. Can you provide a source?


36 posted on 08/22/2006 7:15:32 AM PDT by Fithal the Wise
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To: Fithal the Wise
Significant if correct. Can you provide a source?

Sure can...Congressman Steve King, Iowa Republican, 5th District. The information is contained in an article he wrote titled "Biting the Hand That Feeds You". If you write or call his office, they will tell you that these figures are gathered from the FBI, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, along with other sources. The '45,000' figure is a ROUGH figure calculated by running the '25 a day' figure forward from September 11, 2001, and is cited frequently.

37 posted on 08/22/2006 7:30:02 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: conservativecorner
Buchanan is going to be on Neal Boortz's radio program shortly.

WSB/MSPlayer link:

mms://66.250.188.14/WSB_AM
38 posted on 08/22/2006 7:31:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"Why only antiSemitic? He seems to be racist all around except toward those of European descent."

Yes, you're right, how could I have forgotten?

Oppose the "One Face at the Border" initiative Email your Members of Congress asking them to oppose the "One Face at the Border" initiative

In 2003, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced the creation of a new Customs and Border Protection Officer (CBPO) position and the “One Face at the Border” initiative. Under this plan, a new position, the CBPO, would combine the duties of legacy inspectors from Customs, the Immigration and Nationalization Service (INS) and the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) into a single front-line border security position. With 41,000 employees, CBP is in control of 317 official ports-of-entry for travelers and cargo.

Essentially, the “One Face at the Border” initiative was aimed at unifying the inspection process that travelers entering the United States have to go through. Instead of making three stops – an Immigration Inspector, a Customs Inspector and an Agriculture Inspector – travelers would meet with a single primary inspections officer who was specially trained to do the job of all three.

Consolidating these three organizations has caused logistical and institutional chaos and has taken attention away from critical homeland security priorities. It is true that all three of these organizations deal with front line border and port security, but they do so in very different capacities.

Please email your Members of Congress asking them to oppose the "One Face at the Border" initiative and support a detailed, independent review of the proposal.

Tengo buen dia, aqui se habla espanol..no mas ingles.

39 posted on 08/22/2006 7:34:43 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: conservativecorner
examines immigration-related social problems and documents high levels of support among Hispanics for the so-called "Reconquista" of the U.S. Southwest.

This is what I have always had trouble accepting. Most Latins who come here want a job. How deep is this support for "Reconquista"? Did someone do a poll? Ask 1000 Mexicans if they think the U.S. ought to give back Texas and New Mexico, and probably a lot will say, "Yeah, sure." But in practicality how many of them are willing to subvert the law to do it? In other words is "Reconquista" a preference or a burning desire among Hispanics? I would suggest if it is anything at all it is the former, at worst.

40 posted on 08/22/2006 7:36:08 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: who knows what evil?

I've been debating that very issue with a knucklehead on another thread......my point was that many, many more innocent Americans have been "terrorized" by illegals than were killed in 9-11 and if Bush were fighting a real war on terror they would realize that it's just as big of a tragedy whether it's one at a time or 2-3K in one event. Your numbers prove the point........btw, where can I find the source for that stat? Also, if we add in the number of rapes, thefts, etc. the numbers are off the charts.


41 posted on 08/22/2006 7:37:43 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: Fithal the Wise

As much as I know illegals are responsible for many American deaths since 9/11 and even before that, I highly doubt 45,000 since September 11, 2001. Have there even been that many murders period since that date?

Even so, one American death at the hand of an illegal who snuck across one of America'a land borders is unacceptable considering the lack of real border security. But hey, a head of lettuce is three cents cheaper, right?


42 posted on 08/22/2006 8:02:12 AM PDT by NapkinUser (NAAMAGR)
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To: american spirit
Your numbers prove the point........btw, where can I find the source for that stat?

Click here and read it for yourself. Note the daily stat of illegals and sex crimes against our children, as well.

43 posted on 08/22/2006 8:08:10 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: NapkinUser
Have there even been that many murders period since that date?

These figures include deaths from drunk driving, as well. Read Congressman King's article at the link I posted above. His office WILL confirm that the figures come from the FBI, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, among others.

44 posted on 08/22/2006 8:11:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
This isn't racism. We are a sovereign country with sovereign borders, and anyone who enters illegally should be deported. Period. I don't care what color, race or religion they are. GONE! By the way, you mentioned racism, so let me ask, "what gives Hispanics more rights than the millions who are waiting to enter this country legally"?
45 posted on 08/22/2006 8:16:07 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: joe fonebone

I agree also. On foreign affairs, he deserves the Joseph Kennedy award for his positions. On Illegal Immigration he speaks for the majority in this country.


46 posted on 08/22/2006 8:21:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: wolfcreek
BINGO BUMP, and the clear majority of Americans agree with Pat's positions on illegal aliens and shamnesty.
47 posted on 08/22/2006 8:23:27 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Fithal the Wise
Here is the article in it's entirety:

Biting the Hand That Feeds You - April 25, 2006

On May 1st, the activists who brought you thousands of Mexican flags flying in marches down the streets of our cities are now bringing you "Nothing Gringo Day". With help from the Mexican government, Mexican unions, Mexican political groups, and through the Spanish language radio and newspapers, the call has gone out to make America experience a total boycott, both here and in Mexico. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Just the word "boycott" sparks the image of noble dissent in the face of economic or social oppression. I think of American colonials bucking British economic interests in retaliation to the Stamp Act. Or perhaps the ostracizing of Irish landlord Charles Boycott, the namesake of the verb for all tyrannized people. If not tyrannized, at least disgruntled. If not disgruntled, maybe just bored.

Yet, isn't the key to a successful boycott an economic or social upper-hand? The cost must be felt if the offending party be forced to reform. For example, how does boycotting a movie you had no intention of going to affect the box office? More people probably see a boycotted movie due to the attention than if it had simply been ignored.

President Carter thought he was on to something when he kept American athletes out of the 1980 Moscow Olympics. That showed 'em. That particular boycott neither got the USSR out of Afghanistan nor brought down the Berlin Wall. It just caused our own athletes to suffer.

The May 1st anti-Gringo-fest is also being billed as "A Day Without Immigrants" which is a misnomer on a couple of counts. First, the threatened boycott fails to conjure the image of a Norwegian refusing to buy his May 1 lutefisk at the corner Fareway. Second, the pro-amnesty groups are insistent on confusing legal and illegal immigration. Let's not start mixing our apples and oranges. The issue before Congress is illegal immigration. Perhaps the May 1st boycott should give America a glimpse into "A Day Without ILLEGAL Immigration."

What would that May 1st look like without illegal immigration? There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamines that plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of meth that day by 80%. The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime.

On the negative side, the price of a pound of tomatoes might go up from $0.79 to $0.80. That is unless you have a garden. But I'm guessing that the Mexican drug lords are not taking May 1st off. Neither will the 11,000 illegal invaders that pour over our border every other day of the year. It is a safe bet that the U.S. Border Patrol will have a very busy "Nothing Gringo Day."

Since September 11th, it remains true that OBL is the greatest threat to America. I will leave it to the reader to decide if the greatest threat is Osama bin Laden or the Open Borders Lobby. The emerging cheap labor "ruling class" in America is the strongest supporter of amnesty for illegals. Their anti-American "new servant class" has chosen to boycott them; the very definition of irony. On May 1st, Primero de Mayo, Americans will observe, as illegal immigrants celebrate, "Bite the Hand That Feeds You Day."
48 posted on 08/22/2006 8:28:27 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Zack Nguyen

It's a mute question. All illegals regardless of race, color or religion need to get the heave ho out of this sovereign country. PERIOD!


49 posted on 08/22/2006 8:30:10 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
And they will be free to use what they have learned in their mother countries:

THe Cost of Amnesty [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

John Boehner's response to today's immigration-bill-cost news:
WASHINGTON, D.C. - House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) today issued the following statement regarding a newly released report by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) that estimates the Reid-Kennedy immigration bill passed by the Senate in May would increase government spending by as much as $127 billion over the next decade:

"When the House began hearings in July to study the massive Reid-Kennedy immigration bill instead of rushing into a negotiating conference with the Senate, we said it was important to examine Reid-Kennedy and learn as much as possible about the impact it would have on our country. The newly-released report by the CBO further validates the tough oversight the House has conducted with respect to Reid-Kennedy since it was passed. I want to commend all of the committee chairmen and committee members who have taken part or will take part in these critically important hearings this summer.

"The House hearings have revealed that the Reid-Kennedy bill includes a gaping loophole that could be exploited by terrorists seeking to do harm on American soil, depriving homeland security forces of critical law enforcement tools at a time when, as the thwarted terror attacks in Britain showed, such tools are needed more than ever.

"Our hearings have also revealed that Reid-Kennedy would repeat some of the mistakes made by the 1986 law that gave amnesty to illegal immigrants and significantly increased illegal immigration while masquerading as a border security measure. With the release of the new CBO report, we now know these repeated mistakes would also come with a staggering price tag for American taxpayers who are already struggling with the rising cost of living.

"Congress must send a bill to the President's desk as soon as possible that will strengthen the security of our borders and step up enforcement of our immigration laws. This is what House Republicans have passed. And this is what the American people want and demand from their elected leaders."
50 posted on 08/22/2006 8:47:50 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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