Skip to comments.Little Stock in Stock Car Racing(For all you "Left-turners" LOL)
Posted on 08/30/2006 8:12:57 AM PDT by kellynla
HUNTERSVILLE, N.C. -- There is a story NASCAR insiders swear is true and claim is not an isolated case.
A few years back at a Ford dealership outside Harrisonburg, Va., two men in their late 20s walked in on a Monday morning and started asking about a certain model of Taurus. They were neatly dressed, appeared to be sober, sane and serious. And soon, their focus became clear: They found stock car racing exciting and thought they would buy a car to join the fun.
If only it were that easy.
Veteran driver Mark Martin once described the difference between a showroom vehicle and a stock-car racer as being like the difference between miniature golf and the PGA Tour.
The word "stock" in the title of the sanctioning body, the National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing, had some meaning when coupes raced around the sand and road course in Daytona Beach in the late 1940s. But today, that meaning has all but disappeared.
"There are still a few pieces that are stock," said Jimmy Makar, senior vice president of Joe Gibbs Racing, a mechanical engineering graduate of Maryland and longtime crew chief on NASCAR's top circuit.
"Chassis? No, nothing stock. Engine? We still use a stock block from the manufacturer, but after that, it's all after market," Mr. Makar said, using a term that in NASCAR garages means buying very expensive custom-made parts.
"Anything stock?" asked Brett Bodine, former NASCAR driver and car owner who now helps oversee the organization's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C. "The hood, the roof, the rear deck lid. That's about all I can think of. Speed and safety; racing had to move on."
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I might actually watch the sport if they went back to racing real stock cars. Now THAT would be exciting.
I was always opposed to going to a single body in NASCAR but at this point they may as well. It's the only way to get rid of the inequalities of spoiler heights, roof heights, and ground clearances.
The thing that gets to me the most is that all cars raced in NASCAR are rear wheel drive. The Taurus dosnt make a car that is rear wheel drive . Neither is Chevy's Monte Carlo. The word "Stock" is a joke.
Nascar doesnt allow one manufacturer to become faster than the rest of the cars. If they do they make new rules that bring their speed back down. They strive to make all the cars the same speed. IMO they should take the manufacturers name off all the cars and like The Indianapolis 500 raced all cars this year with Honda engines just make a NASCAR car, and be done with all this farce of manufacturers making the cars.
The next thing that gets me is the teams. The hell with teams. No owner should have more than one car on the track. Make them race each other not a team.
"I might actually watch the sport if they went back to racing real stock cars."
I actually enjoy F1 and motorcycle racing. Now that's racing! LOL
Ya gotta get up early on Saturday mornings to watch F1
or record it.
I'll bet 90% of the people in the country are within a 2 hour drive of a short track where they still race "stock" cars. I'm in Yankeeland, New England, and there are 3 within an hour of me.
Of course, the truly stock cars are boring, I like the modifieds.
Yeah, in LA, you have toget up REALLY early for F1!
F1 has so little passing, it gets kind of boring to watch, but the cars are way cool. I wish they would stop with all the limitations and grooved tire crap. Going back to having pit stops is cool though.
That might actually be happening now that the sponsors are beginning to follow the drivers as opposed to the Team Owners.
hit any small track in your area, most of them still run a "stock" class.
some stuff has to be done for safety like adding roll cages and fuel cells and removing glass, and you can do some lighter mods on your engine, but they mostly don't do alot.
here in MI we have two classes of street stocks; regular, and 4cyl engines.
I'm within earshot of Michigan International Speedway but I still like going to a Saturday night race on dirt.
I love watching the sprint cars come out of the turns with their real tires smokin and the front wheels dangling.
I drive through that every day down I-459 myself.
Left Turn ping
NASCAR is restricting new owners to 3 teams. Existing multi team owners are grandfathered but when they're gone they're gone.
[I actually enjoy F1 and motorcycle racing. Now that's racing! LOL
Ya gotta get up early on Saturday mornings to watch F1
or record it.]
Joke I presume.
F1 is as good as fixed as the big money wins. What happened to F1 is what Tony George was aiming to prevent when he reformulated the IRL. People were getting tired of the Pensky monopoly. It sounds like their might be a reunion of cart and IRL comming soon.
Do you get the USAC sprints or the winged World of Outlaws tour?
Dirt track racing is absolutely better than asphalt tracks.
My local (2+ hours away) dirt track ran a special show last Saturday night, and let the modifieds and late models run any engine they wanted and any body configuration, including wings and sideboards. Some guys were running alcohol injected engines, monster wings, all kinds of cool stuff.
Lime Rock is a little drive from me, but I enjoy going there every so often to catch some of the "minor league" races.
They call that run what ya brung. Where I watch the dirt racers it's usually world of outlaws but there are several tracks inside of an hour from me.
Lime rock is cool for road track stuff. You are not too far from the old Danbury Fair Racearena, and Stafford. Middletown, NY runs dirt cars n Saturday nights, and Lebanon Valley is probably less than 1 1/2 hours from you with the best all around racing program in short track dirt I have ever been to, and that is hundreds of tracks across the country.
Yes, IROC is still out there. The next race is October 28th in Atlanta on Speed TV. IROC has always been exciting IMO.
I don't get it. I will never get it. Guys get into cars and go in an oval for a couple hours. That's a sport? I would call it a pasttime. Now Lets say they raced with the same cars on open public freeways with cops and all, with innocent lives at stake... well that might be appealing
One of the best IROC finishes was at Michigan between Earnhardt sr and Earnhardt jr. It was one of the closest IROC finishes ever. They crossed the finish line leaning on each other.
Dirt track bump!
The best racing I have seen recently has been the Australian V8 super cars.
Racing was in muh family's blood and so were Saturday night races at the local half mile track. I never got into the racing myself, still have a nephew super stocking it at the same old track in Minnesota, all my brothers had a moment or two or doing real good, but it ain't a cheap hobby..
I wish I had a few of my brothers old cars,, watching the Barrett Auto auctions on cable almost makes me weep when I see what some old cars go for...
I never raced, myself.. I was the Marine of the group.. they were all army or farmers and truckers.. ;-)
even the bolts on those sprinters are hollowed out titanium
It's always nice to meet a fellow F1-er. I really enjoyed last weekend's Turkey event. That track is now among my favorites, along with Spa.
there's serious money in Nascar these days
the top guy at Cosworth went to work for Richard Childress
another guy from DEI was being recruited by Toyota Formula 1
Drags bore me, but I am never going to knock it for those who like it.
If my kids go racing, i am buying a purpose built chassis, built to spec. Last weekend, there were 3 nasty rollovers. the two purpose built guys were fine after wrecking at over 100 mph. The guy in the street car was fine, too, but then again I have never seen such a slow rollover.
That's my company ("Delco Remy', now just "Remy Inc.", on the front of the car!
The last car I saw with that badge it was on the car owned by a fellow DR employee.
Thank you for your service.
I figured you would appreciate the article.
Cool! It's a small world, but I'd hate to have to mow it all.
yep, I reeeeeely enjoy the camera shots from the cars.
Nice to see Massa win.
I've tried to float the idea for years that these guys should weld roll cages and put driver's seats inside actual Monte Carlos, Fusions, and Chargers that roll off the assembly lines, and race them every year at the annual All-Star race.
Put racing tires on them, take off the side mirrors, headlights, tail lights, weld the doors shut, etc. whatever you've got to do to make them safe to race.
But use the same V8 engine, body, etc. as the cars we drive on the street. One race a year.
MotoGP is tops.
AMA drag racing can be interesting.
F1 for road racing.
Most everything else at the "pro" level is boring.
I have another idea for NASCAR, but it would never fly.
The Pennsylvania 500.
NASCAR racing cars travel from one end of Pennsylvania to the other while driving on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Start at the Ohio border, first one to New Jersey wins. The crazy corners and lower-than-interstate-standard sections would be fun to watch, as well as the 2-3 mountain tunnels. Heck, any sort of NASCAR road race on an actual road rather than a road course would be awesome.
They aready are...NASCAR is developing what they call the Car of Tomorrow, which is a single body for all teams. I'm not sure even the engines will be Dodge, Toyota, Chevy, or Ford in the COT. Maybe Norm and WCG, or others thay may ping, could tell us.
At this point a few teams are producing engines for many of the other teams. Chances are any car on the track will have a Roush, Childress, Yates, or Hendrick engine.
"Now Lets say they raced with the same cars on open public freeways with cops and all, with innocent lives at stake... well that might be appealing"
It's kept real secret but occasionally they have a race from Reno-Las Vegas that is balls out winner take all with a $100k entry fee.
At least they used to.