Posted on 08/31/2006 9:27:03 AM PDT by Vaquero
Norwegian police find Munch's "The Scream"
33 minutes ago
OSLO (Reuters) - Norwegian police recovered "The Scream" and another stolen masterpiece by Edvard Munch on Thursday, two years after the works were seized from a museum by gunmen.
"We are 100 percent certain they are the originals," police chief Iver Stensrud told a news conference. "The damage was much less than feared."
"The Scream" depicts a terrified figure under a blood-red sky. The other, "Madonna," shows a bare-breasted woman with long black hair.
A wonderful painting. I'm glad it was recovered.
Now, future generations can become depressed looking at this "masterpiece".
LOL!
Existentialism isn't for everybody. I like it, tho.
Goths the world over rejoice...then realize that it's all meaningless still
But there's no cute weiner dog in that one! (Or Goofy in silhouette in the background).
Howard Dean took it.
LOL!!!
I wonder how long it will be before someone steals it again.
FYI ping
You and 6th year college seniors everywhere.
The art thefts may have been a diversion: that same day another armed robbery took place of a currency exchange place. Oslo police recently caught the mastermind of that heist, and he said he'd tell them where these paintings were in exchange for a reduced sentence.
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What great snark. You were born to lawyer.
> Now, future generations can become depressed looking at this "masterpiece".
"I was walking along a path with two friends – the sun was setting – suddenly the sky turned blood red – I paused, feeling exhausted, and leaned on the fence – there was blood and tongues of fire above the blue-black fjord and the city – my friends walked on, and I stood there trembling with anxiety – and I sensed an infinite scream passing through nature." - Edvard Munch
In a sense, Munch weren't far wrong. The sky *was* that color, and nature *was* in an uproar... because the island volcano of Krakatau had blown itself to flinders not long before and filled the stratosphere with ash, dust and sulphur compounds. The sky looked spooky weird at the time.
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Krakatoa provided backdrop to Munch's scream
Washington
December 11, 2003
For those who have ever wondered why the sky was a lurid red in The Scream - Edvard Munch's painting of modern angst - astronomers have an answer: a volcanic eruption half a world away.
An article published on Tuesday in Sky and Telescope pinpoints the location in Norway where Munch and his friends were walking when the artist saw the blood-red sky depicted in the 1893 painting, and offers an explanation for why it seemed to be aflame.
Donald Olson, a physics and astronomy professor at Texas State University, and his colleagues determined that debris thrown into the atmosphere by the massive eruption on the island of Krakatoa, in modern Indonesia, created vivid red twilights in Europe from November 1883 until February 1884.
The local newspaper in what is now Oslo reported that the phenomenon was widely seen, the astronomers said. The most famous version of The Scream was painted in 1893 as part of The Frieze of Life, a group of works derived from Munch's personal experiences, including the deaths of his mother in 1868 and his sister in 1877.
To reach their conclusion, the astronomers determined Munch's vantage point in the painting. "One of the high points of our research trip to Oslo came when we rounded a bend in the road and realised we were standing in the exact spot where Munch had been 120 years ago," Professor Olson said.
"It was very satisfying to stand in the exact spot where an artist had his experience," he said. "The real importance of finding the location, though, was to determine the direction of view in the painting. We could see that Munch was looking to the south-west - exactly where the Krakatoa twilights appeared in the winter of 1883-84."
- Reuters
This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/10/1070732277751.html
Wonderful news.
"a 20th-century philosophical movement; assumes that people are entirely free and thus responsible for what they make of themselves"
Absolutely. I own myself. Anyone who doesn't is chattel.
Existentialism isn't about having property rights in yourself. You are describing classical liberalism, not existentialism.
King Crimson!
"Become who you are."
Just exactly what does that mean, gcruse?
In a nutshell.
"The damage was much less than feared."
Is this the one reported to have been burned? If so, yeah, less damage.
Excellent news!
I'm just going by the definitions Martin supplied. Seems to me the one I quoted says what I said in different words.
Gee, Dice, I don't know. It sounds like something Frank Zappa would say. Please point out where *I* said it.
It's something I've seen in Nietzsche's writing and Kant on his "categorical imperatives". It sounded like you knew something about it.
http://www.the-vu.com/existentialism.htm
It reminds me of the way people talk in CA.
Yeah, the definition given is not precise. One significant difference: while the classical liberal would say that you DO have property in your own body, the existentialist would say that you have property in your own body only if you say you do, and even then there is no guarantee that you have ownership of yourself in somebody else's personal world.
...i.e. there is no objective reason for another person to recognize your belief that you have property in yourself.
I'm deeper than I thought!
That's what Aftenposten said today - it's not as though the thieves could have thought they'd be able to sell these anywhere.
His alternative title was "Portrait of a Liberal at His Happiest"
Imagine a world without existentialism.
Great call. I have that album. King Crimson's IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING. With Eno.
I'm not really into art and have never much liked "The Scream", but I like that Madonna print. Glad they were recovered.
From your link:
"start using your "self-determination" to direct where you want to be"
That isn't nearly as circular as 'becoming who you are,' which sounds like a pickup line from the late sixties.
I'm reminded of Murray Roman's 'Be There' from his comedy album 'You can't beat people up and have them say I Love You.'
Be there. [echo] Be there. [echo]
Of course you will be there. Where can you be but where you can be? For to be is.... are you with anybody?
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