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Not only is this an unfair and disgraceful attempt to compare the BSA's policy to discriminate based on their moral code to a group that promotes hate and racism, but it is an inaccurate and losing argument. The Boy Scouts are not saying that all atheists are bad people they are simply saying that being an atheist is not compatable with being a Boy Scout. Discriminating membership to an organization does not equate to promoting hate against those that are excluded. This argument is completely false anyway.

The ACLU's hateful war against the BSA is one more good reason to support the Public Expression of Religion Act. Let's stop paying the ACLU to destroy America and freedom.

1 posted on 09/09/2006 6:54:20 PM PDT by Jay777
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2 posted on 09/09/2006 6:56:21 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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Any loss for the ACLU is a win for Americans.


3 posted on 09/09/2006 6:57:29 PM PDT by BW2221
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4 posted on 09/09/2006 6:59:01 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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Gotta love this!!!!!


5 posted on 09/09/2006 7:02:16 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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"David Fidanque, executive director of the Oregon ACLU, said the ruling turned on a technical definition of what constitutes discrimination in the schools.

"In theory, he argued, a hate group such as the Ku Klux Klan . . ."
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What about a HATE GROUP like the ACLU?


6 posted on 09/09/2006 7:03:22 PM PDT by sandra_789
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Suppose they decided being a black kid was a basis for not being a scout, either. Would they still be allowed to recruit at schools? what does believing in a Sky God have to do with learning to pitch a tent? Is the BSA teaching self-reliance or religion?


9 posted on 09/09/2006 7:05:54 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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From "A Dummies Guide to Understanding the Fourteenth Amendment":
It is also important to consider what privileges or immunities we are dealing with since a citizen has both privileges or immunities belonging to citizens of the United States and those given to him by a State Constitution and laws.

In 1871 Bingham's home State of Ohio highest Court considered the question of whether the State had retained the right to establish separate schools for colored children under the Fourteenth Amendment. In the case of Garnes v. McCan, et al. (21 Ohio State Reports) had unanimously decided by a all Republican court that all privileges to a State school system are derived solely from the Constitution and laws of the State. "The privileges or immunities under the Fourteenth Amendment are those recognized by the US Constitution and belonging to US Citizens, and not those privileges or immunities that are the result of a State Constitution and laws belonging to citizens of a State," the court concluded.

"Equality of rights does not involve the necessity of educating white and colored persons in the same school any more than it does of educating children of both sexes in the same school, or that different grades of scholars must be kept in the same school," the court further added. What is important with this decision is the fact Bingham himself considered the courts ruling "just and proper" when later asked by Garfield if he had agreed with the court's interpretation under the new amendment to the Constitution.


10 posted on 09/09/2006 7:06:01 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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P!$$ on the aclu , you commie b@$t@rd$


11 posted on 09/09/2006 7:06:08 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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Another article about the BSA winning and the disgusting ACLU losing.


15 posted on 09/09/2006 7:09:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Well, I suppose the mother will now see if she can sue the Girl Scouts for not even allowing her son to join.


26 posted on 09/09/2006 8:13:36 PM PDT by freemankid
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Ahem, ACLU drove me to be a monthly contributor to Boy Scout of America...Hehehe.


30 posted on 09/09/2006 8:35:33 PM PDT by Toidylop
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

It seems pretty clear to me. Maybe they left that part out of the "emanations and penumbra" version.

31 posted on 09/09/2006 8:36:23 PM PDT by kennedy ("Why would I listpen to losers?")
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The ACLU should be prepared for more humiliation at the hands of the trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, in-your-face, cheerful, thrifty brave, clean and reverent troops.

(proud Life Scout)


32 posted on 09/09/2006 8:42:15 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Tehran: Iran leader insists development of gas chambers, ovens marked "Jews", is for peaceful use.)
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Bump


33 posted on 09/09/2006 8:49:39 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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But how much did it cost the BSA to defend against this lawsuit?


37 posted on 09/09/2006 9:07:25 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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I haven't heard any ACLU condemnation of the DNC tactics regarding The Path to 9/11. Have you?


48 posted on 09/10/2006 1:47:08 AM PDT by gdc314
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aclu=atheist communist libertine union


53 posted on 09/10/2006 5:41:09 AM PDT by steamroller
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The f-ing lawyer puts the KKK and the boy scouts in the same group? To hell with that scum!


56 posted on 09/10/2006 5:46:58 AM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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BTTT!

I think the ACLU is going to start losing more and more of these idiotic law suits.

People are just fed up!!


58 posted on 09/10/2006 6:28:23 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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THIS should cheer everyone up.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1698312/posts?page=1
Plan to cut ACLU money pipeline advances

Posted on 09/09/2006 4:44:06 AM PDT by Man50D


A plan that would cut off the pipeline of taxpayer money that now flows into American Civil Liberties Union coffers has been advanced by the House Judiciary Committee.

The Public Expression of Religion Act, introduced by Indiana Congressman John Hostettler, now will move to the full House for a vote, he said in his announcement this week.

"This is a big victory for Americans who care about our rich religious heritage in this country," he said. "There is a lot of excitement about this bill."

It has been vigorously supported by the American Legion, where Commander Rees Lloyd described it as "a long overdue victory for justice, freedom, democracy, and the First Amendment."

The American Legion has fought for reform of the attorney fee provisions of federal law which the ACLU has exploited to reap millions of dollars in taxpayer-paid attorney fees in Establishment Clause cases," Lloyd's statement said.

He said the ACLU has used the threat of the fees as 'a club' to bludgeon local elected bodies into surrendering to the ACLU's "secular cleansing demands."

The plan came about after the ACLU, "the Taliban of American liberal secularism," according to Lloyd, sued to tear down a cross on a rock outcrop erected by veterans as a memorial to World War I veterans in 1934 in the remote Mojave Desert.

Officials noted someone would have to drive 11 miles off the highway "to be offended" by the cross.

There had been no complaints against the memorial in 60 years, until the ACLU sued to have it removed, and then asked for and got $63,000.

"The American Legion," said former American Legion National Commander Tom Bock, "is in full support" of the plan. He said it would take away the authority of judges to award attorney fees to the ACLU in lawsuits under the Establishment Clause.

The law, approved in 1976, originally was to help individual citizens bring lawsuits against state officials who had deprived them of their constitutional rights. However, Hostettler believes it has been abused by groups like the ACLU, who claim any public official who expresses religious beliefs or displays a memorial with religious imagery, like the crosses at Arlington National Cemetery, is promoting the "establishment of religion."

For example, in 2001 Iowa county officials removed a Ten Commandments monument from a courthouse lawn rather than face the attorney's fees threatened. And in 2004, Los Angeles removed a tiny cross from the county seal when it was threatened with those fees.

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback has similar legislation pending in the Senate.

In an endorsement of the plan, the American Legion quoted Thomas Jefferson:

"The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in our federal judiciary; an irresponsible body, working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing in its noiseless step like a thief … until all shall be usurped from the States, and the government of all be consolidated into one."

One such case that currently is grinding its way through the court system involves the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial in California.

The ACLU has been fighting to remove that for 17 years, even though 76 percent of the people in San Diego where it is located want it to stay.


61 posted on 09/10/2006 7:16:46 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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