Posted on 09/12/2006 9:18:38 AM PDT by RedCell
Been there, done that.
What's interesting is that those little bolts and washers are actually travelling, what, 26,000 MPH?
Amazing, isn't it.
Back In collage I was at the dental school getting some (cheep work done. The dentist dropped a gold crown down my throat. I was able to hack it up but he said "well it is gold and we would have had to recover it at the other end".
he would have had to remelt it before it went into my mouth
It will come back in an hour and a half. But, it will drift a little because of atmospheric drag and sunlight pressure so it won't come back exactly to where it was set adrift. It could hit the ISS when it comes back.
Are you kidding, Mr. Whale? The bolt is probably co-orbiting with ISS, for the most part. It's not like it stopped dead in space, waiting for the station to take a lap.
It will eventually drop out of orbit.
The spring will return to the node at the same time the station returns to the node, the node of interescting orbits. The two orbits will have close to the same period and the two objects will meet again. A couple miles an hour will not make the orbits enough different.
Probably more like 17,500 mph.
Does that mean it could act as a harmful high velocity projectile and penetrate the ISS?
That's not good.
It will come back at the same speed it left. If it left at 2 mph, it will return at 2 mph. Actually it could come back in 45 minutes, it taking 1-1/2 hours for a complete orbit of the ISS.
What give you the indication that the stray hardware has left the vicinity in any substantial way?
It's out of reach and they aren't going to chase after it. It will return, but it might not return within arm's reach and they sure aren't going to sit out there and wait for it to return.
From what I remember from a show on ISS construction, I think copper was the choice for tools,
since it could withstand the cold and maintain many of the properties. That is, not become overly
brittle while still being hard.
I have no idea as to fasteners, pipes, trusses, etc.
Ah, a lesson learned from the Apollo 12 mission.
I think we're talking past each other here. An hour and a half from now, the bolt will still be in the vicinity of the ISS, but may semi-stabilize over time into the periodic relationship you've described, until drag deorbits it. Yes?
Station tools are primarily aluminum and stanless steel. Copper/brass and some plastics also are used, depending on operational needs for mechanisms.
I don't get it. The ISS takes 90 minutes for an orbit. Stopping a bolt dead in its tracks would mean a difference of 17,500mph between the bolt and the ISS which would work out to the 90min flight. OTOH, if both continued - the ISS at 17,500mph and the bolt at 17,498mph, wouldn't it take a year and a half for both to return to the same place of longitude?
(17500*1.5=26,250)/2=13,125 hours
/24=546.88 days
/365=1.50 yrs
The four pieces, the bolt, the washer, the spring, and the ISS were in four different orbits instantly. The four orbits intersect at two points 45 minutes apart. The periods of the four orbits are similar but not exactly the same, so the four objects will come close to each other the first orbit and less close with each subsequent orbit.
How do you make flap jacks if they don't come down when you flip them?
The light bulb turns on this side of the conversation. I understand now, thanks!
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