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Our National Anthem: "The Forgotten Verse"
September 14, 2006 | Vanity

Posted on 09/14/2006 8:44:48 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan

The Star-Spangled Banner: verse two

O thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand

Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!

Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heaven-rescued land

Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!

Then conquer we must,

When our cause it is just,

And this be our motto, "In God is our trust."

And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

(Francis Scott Key, 1779-1843)


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In the "National Songs" section of an old hymnal, I recently came across a text I had not seen or even thought of in at least forty years!

The second verse of our National Anthem, "The Star-Spangled Banner."

I'll tell you one thing, if I owned a sports franchise, I'd DEMAND that everyone singing the National Anthem at every sports event sing BOTH verses - and project the text onto the jumbotrons.

I wonder if the time hasn't come - or maybe it's long past time - that we recover, revive, and rededicate ourselves to "the forgotten verse."

1 posted on 09/14/2006 8:44:49 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan

This is the 2nd verse, not the 4th?


2 posted on 09/14/2006 8:45:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (New Democrat Talking Point: Rove made us do it!)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Back in the 70s, the Golden State Warriors used to have the second verse sung before games. They won a chapionship one year and were contenders several others. Since they dropped the verse, the team has been in the cellar.


3 posted on 09/14/2006 8:47:30 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Heck, why stop at 2? Make 'em sing all four!

Although, I've heard the other three verses sung before, and they don't fit as comfortably into the tune as the primary verse does.


4 posted on 09/14/2006 8:48:07 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Could be the fourth verse - I don't know. The old hymnal had just two verses (I suppose this one being considered most appropriate in church?).


5 posted on 09/14/2006 8:49:19 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I LOVE that verse! Ironically, the first time I ever heard it was 35 years ago, on a PBS station in Tallahassee, where SirKit was in graduate school. This was when TV stations still signed off at 1 or 2 in the morning, and played the National Anthem as they did. This station's version was played with simple guitar accompaniment, and had two women singing. When they got to the line "Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just", they broke into two part harmony. It was just beautiful!


6 posted on 09/14/2006 8:50:14 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Been singing all four for a number of years, but this is my favorite. But since most people can't even sing the words to the first verse, including Teddy Kennedy (I think that's who it was on 9-11 who was at the mic and busted the very first sentence . . . O say can you see by the star spangled ban--oopss!


7 posted on 09/14/2006 8:50:37 AM PDT by Torpedogirl
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I love that verse. My 5th grade teacher made us memorize and sing it whenever we sang "The Star-Spangled Banner" and I will always thank her for it.


8 posted on 09/14/2006 8:52:03 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Some pray for peace; I pray for VICTORY that will ensure it.)
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To: Torpedogirl

But I bet Teddy could have managed "Bottle of Wine" at the old "Blond-In-Pond" Saloon in Hyannisport - NO PROBLEMO!


9 posted on 09/14/2006 8:52:22 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Yea, try singing it.


10 posted on 09/14/2006 8:52:29 AM PDT by Knight Templar
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To: TaxachusettsMan
I have heard that verse sung aloud at some business conventions and it always brings a chill to my spine and tears to my eyes. It is a great reminder that freedom is not free and a huge price has been paid and will have to be paid again and again to defend paradise on earth: The United States of America.

I strongly support your suggestion and in-fact at all the business conventions that I attend for my franchise we always make sure that this verse is sung. More and more people should sing this verse.

Thanks for posting the text, it is beautiful.
11 posted on 09/14/2006 8:53:31 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I e-mailed the RNC in 2004 urging it to use this stanza at the convention. Never heard back from them.


12 posted on 09/14/2006 8:53:52 AM PDT by carrier-aviator
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To: TaxachusettsMan

How dare we sing of GOD and FREEDOM? /sarc


13 posted on 09/14/2006 8:54:05 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

The first and fourth/final verses together are a shorter, but essentially complete "picture" of the whole. Where the first verse ends in a question, the fourth answers it.


14 posted on 09/14/2006 8:54:34 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Fudd Fan

We had to memorize all the verses of America the Beautiful - and I've often thought how different the decisions of some members of the judiciary might be if these lines were more commonly known:

"America! America! God mend thine every flaw, / Confirm thy soul in self-control, / Thy liberty in law!"

Powerful!


15 posted on 09/14/2006 8:55:38 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: CT-Freeper
Actually, this is the fourth verse that's being quoted See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner.

Still... Imagine the Libs whining like a stuck pig if this was sung! They'd all yell that this was Republican propaganda and that how dare they polticize the National Anthem.

I'd also like to revive the singing of all four verses of "America The Beautiful", especially the third and fourth verses of it:

****
Oh beautiful, for heroes proved
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America! May God thy gold refine,
'Til all success be nobleness, and ev'ry gain divine!



Oh beautiful, for patriot's dream
That sees, beyond the years,
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America! God shed his grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea to shining sea!
****

It's interesting that what were once great and moving lyrics are now too politically charged to sing.
16 posted on 09/14/2006 8:57:05 AM PDT by johnpannell
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To: TaxachusettsMan

O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?


On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


O thus be it ever when free-men shall stand
Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust!”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


17 posted on 09/14/2006 8:57:16 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'T is the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us as a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


18 posted on 09/14/2006 8:59:56 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Don Corleone
How dare we sing of GOD and FREEDOM? /sarc

Don't forget VICTORY and TRIUMPH. No, we can't have *that*. It would mean that someone else had to LOSE, and that might make them feel bad.

19 posted on 09/14/2006 9:00:26 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Bryan24

And how many Americans, even among those who know the words to the first verse, realize that it ends as a question?

In today's political climate it's a good question. Does that Star-Spangled Banner still wave over the land of the free and home of the brave?


20 posted on 09/14/2006 9:01:58 AM PDT by johnpannell
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To: carrier-aviator
Never heard back from them.

Did you include a check?

/cynicism

21 posted on 09/14/2006 9:10:11 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Those who do not know Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. They are the witless." –Khomeni)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I love the Star Spangled Banner but I love America The Beautiful more. It chokes me up all the time and I actually get pissed if all verses are not sung.


22 posted on 09/14/2006 9:17:26 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Bryan24
Cool. :-). This thread will have the DU's panties' in a bundle in no time.
23 posted on 09/14/2006 9:20:00 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: johnpannell

It probably has more to do with the time required to sing all 4 verses, than the content. Wouldn't work on tv or sports events, and that's where about 90% of the singing of the Nationa Anthem is.


24 posted on 09/14/2006 9:20:13 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: 7thson

I always choke up right after I sing, "above the fruited plains." I am such a darn baby when I sing these songs. I get choked up no matter what.


25 posted on 09/14/2006 9:22:46 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Torpedogirl

He can't sing but could swim when he had to!


26 posted on 09/14/2006 9:23:57 AM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: GOP Poet

When I was at Westpoint it was mandatory as a plebe 1984 to memorize the 2nd verse of the star bangled banner and I still have it memorized and recite it when I close at public speaking engagements.


27 posted on 09/14/2006 9:26:14 AM PDT by BADMONKEY344
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To: TaxachusettsMan
I'll tell you one thing, if I owned a sports franchise, I'd DEMAND that everyone singing the National Anthem at every sports event sing BOTH verses - and project the text onto the jumbotrons.

What with the attitude of most citizens toward military service (actually doing something,) I would say that your suggestion ranks right up there with re-arranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship.

28 posted on 09/14/2006 9:31:25 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: CT-Freeper
they don't fit as comfortably into the tune as the primary verse does.

Considering how the melody does not fit even the primary verse that well, I'd say it is a good bet that Cole Porter didn't do the fitting.

29 posted on 09/14/2006 9:33:39 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: CT-Freeper

We were taught all four back when I was in grade school in the '60s. And this was in a NYC public school, believe it or not.


30 posted on 09/14/2006 9:34:20 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: GOP Poet

DU's panties stay in a wad all the time, about any and everything.


31 posted on 09/14/2006 9:38:19 AM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
This IS the fourth verse, not the second, as the second poster inquired. Homework, Grasshopper, homework.

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32 posted on 09/14/2006 9:38:55 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Have a look-see. Please get involved.)
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To: carrier-aviator

Is seems that the RNC wants nothing to do with conservatism and real Constitutional patriotism


33 posted on 09/14/2006 9:46:18 AM PDT by TimesDomain (www.timerealms.com)
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To: BADMONKEY344
When I was at Westpoint it was mandatory as a plebe 1984 to memorize the 2nd verse of the star bangled banner and I still have it memorized and recite it when I close at public speaking engagements.

Okay. Now that is even tearing me up a bit :-). Good for you. I hope to catch one of your closings one day. I love that you do this.

34 posted on 09/14/2006 9:57:13 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Twinkie

Good point. In fact I think I will nickname them PWW (Not to be mistaken of course for the IWW)--the Panty Wad Whiners (although it might be quite easy to confuse the two by this shared group trait).


35 posted on 09/14/2006 10:03:37 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: CT-Freeper

I'll start singing all four when Greece starts singing all 158 of theirs... :P

Seriously, though, while there wouldn't be anything wrong with singing more than one, many people still can't even get that one right. Hastert even flubbed it badly on Monday, and he's Speaker of the House! :o


36 posted on 09/14/2006 10:06:58 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: Torpedogirl
Been singing all four for a number of years, but this is my favorite. But since most people can't even sing the words to the first verse, including Teddy Kennedy (I think that's who it was on 9-11 who was at the mic and busted the very first sentence . . . O say can you see by the star spangled ban--oopss!

There is a sort of fifth verse. Written In or about 1861 by Oliver Wendel Holmes, father of the Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes.

There are copies of some broadsheets and sheet music in the Library of Congress containing the "fifth Verse." However one must pay for them. About six years ago I spent days doing an internet search for "Fifth Verse" and actually found it. Needless to say I have since lost it.

37 posted on 09/14/2006 10:23:39 AM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Funny.....on September 11th I was hoping the STAR SPANGLED BANNER would be sung.....instead of God Bless America....isn't the SSB a WAR song?


38 posted on 09/14/2006 10:29:51 AM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: Congressman Billybob

Oh, and if you're pushing yourself - just type in VANITY and start your own damn thread.


40 posted on 09/14/2006 10:33:50 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: rock58seg
There is a sort of fifth verse. Written In or about 1861 by Oliver Wendel Holmes, father of the Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes.

Finally found it here.

Probably the best known additional stanza was written by Oliver-Wendell Holmes during the Civil War, and was intended to decry treasonable acts against the US flag:

When our land is illumined with liberty's smile,
If a foe from within strikes a blow at her glory,
Down, down with the traitor that tries to defile
The flag of the stars, and the page of her story!
By the millions unchained,
Who their birthright have gained
We will keep her bright blazon forever unstained;
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave,
While the land of the free is the home of the brave.

---

The "foe from within" reminds me of Michael Savage's "the enemy within".

41 posted on 09/14/2006 11:21:02 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Pornography kills.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
The "foe from within" reminds me of Michael Savage's "the enemy within".

Reminds me more of the present incarnation of the Democrat Party.

Down, down with the traitor that tries to defile The flag of the stars, and the page of her story!

42 posted on 09/14/2006 12:09:20 PM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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