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Pope statement not enough: Muslim Brotherhood
Reuters ^ | 09-17-06 | Staff

Posted on 09/16/2006 6:51:19 AM PDT by veronica

CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said a Vatican statement on Saturday saying Pope Benedict was sorry for upsetting Muslims with his comments on Islam did not go far enough.

"We want a personal apology (from the Pope). We feel that he has committed a grave error against us and that this mistake will only be removed through a personal apology," Muslim Brotherhood Deputy Leader Mohammed Habib told Reuters.

"Has he presented a personal apology for statements by which he clearly is convinced? No," he said.

In a speech on Tuesday the Pope repeated criticism of the Prophet Mohammad by the 14th century Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, who said everything the Prophet brought was evil "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

The remarks sparked outrage across the Islamic world.

"The Holy Father is very sorry that some passages of his speech may have sounded offensive to the sensibilities of Muslim believers," Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said in the statement.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a political Islamist group founded in Egypt which has inspired movements across the Arab world.


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1 posted on 09/16/2006 6:51:20 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

"The Muslim Brotherhood is a political Islamist group founded in Egypt "

A terrorist group, no doubt.


2 posted on 09/16/2006 6:54:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: veronica

The Holy Father is sorry that you Islamic POS are too stupid to understand his message.



Now buzz off.


3 posted on 09/16/2006 6:54:19 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: veronica

LOL! It's never enough for the "Religion of Perpetual Outrage"!


4 posted on 09/16/2006 6:54:39 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: sgtbono2002

Lol


5 posted on 09/16/2006 6:54:46 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

What is the Religion of Peace going to do? Try a kill a POPE like they did to Pope John Paul. I wonder when the world is going to wake up?


6 posted on 09/16/2006 6:56:15 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: veronica

Perhaps we need the Holy Hand-grenade of Antioch.


7 posted on 09/16/2006 6:56:25 AM PDT by shankbear
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Apparently the notion of changing their murderous behavior, as way to stop these sort of statements, hasn't occurred to them.
8 posted on 09/16/2006 6:56:45 AM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: veronica

Up their nose with a rubber hose, dipped in pig's fat.


9 posted on 09/16/2006 6:57:14 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: veronica
Someone needs to explain "degrees of outrage" to the so-called brotherhood. Their outrage has one degree: full-on and rabid, whether it be a silly cartoon, an author or artist questioning the Islamic culture, or a world-figure reasonably quoting an ancient offensive statement to serve as a backgound for intelligent discussion and dialogue.

It doesn't matter to these ignorant loudmouths, it all means jihad. Which is what it is all really about anyway. Anarchy, thy name is Jihad.

10 posted on 09/16/2006 6:57:33 AM PDT by January24th
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To: veronica

Palaeologus had it right.


11 posted on 09/16/2006 6:58:30 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: scooby321

Naw, they'll just demonstrate, burn a few buildings down and kill their own.


12 posted on 09/16/2006 6:58:38 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: veronica

A message to all muslims!

13 posted on 09/16/2006 6:58:47 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 1 ================

Mumbai, formerly known as Bombay attacked by Islamic terrorists.


====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 2 ================

London attacked by Islamic terrorists.


====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 3 ================

Madrid attacked by Islamic terrorists.


====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 4 ================

AMERICANS MURDERED ON A BRIDGE IN FALLUJA BY ISLAMIC SUBHUMAN TERRORISTS


The War for Infinite Justice MUST BE ESCALATED

====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 5 ================

TORTURE OF AMERICANS BY ISLAMIC SUBHUMAN TERRORISTS.


The War for Infinite Justice MUST BE ESCALATED

====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 6 ================

VERY PARTIAL LIST OF ISLAMIC TERRORIST ACTIVITIES
Full list is pages and pages and pages and pages.

1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympics Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
on and on and on and on their terrorism has gone .........


The War for Infinite Justice MUST BE ESCALATED

====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 7 ================

Islamic Terrorists (mainly from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) attack America
murdering 3000 Americans per hour [pictures censored by the MSM]

The War for Infinite Justice SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESCALATED IN 2001


====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 8 ================

Russia, at Beslan, with children murdered by Islamic terrorists.


====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 9 ================

=========== Documents linking Atta, Saddam, Nidal, bin Ladin ===========

Handwritten letter dated Feb. 19, 1998 linking bin Laden and Saddam Hussein
discussing arrival of a secret envoy sent by bin Laden to Iraq.
The signature beneath the letter is a codename, "MDA" - the Mukhabarat.


====== AWAITING APOLOGIES FROM ISLAM, # 10================

=========== Islamic terrorists promising to conquer America prior to murdering all Christians and Jews therein.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith,
but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America,
and Islam the only accepted religion on earth
"

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998


Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels.
So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them,
so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”

14 posted on 09/16/2006 6:59:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: veronica

Yawn.

What are they gonna do? attack us with hijacked airplanes? They'd do that w/o the Pope's statement.

Have riots and kill their own? Go for it.

Use it as an excuse to do whatever they wanna do? Like they need an excuse.

Cause them to hate us? I wasn't counting on a Christmas card anyway.


15 posted on 09/16/2006 6:59:46 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: veronica

EFF YOU Muslim Brotherhood! Admit it. You can't handle the Truth!


16 posted on 09/16/2006 6:59:57 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: veronica

This just may be the turning point in the war for world opinion! If only the Pope doesn't cave!!!


17 posted on 09/16/2006 7:03:10 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: veronica
"We want a personal apology (from the Pope). We feel that he has committed a grave error against us and that this mistake will only be removed through a personal apology," Muslim Brotherhood Deputy Leader Mohammed Habib told Reuters.

The ante is raised.

18 posted on 09/16/2006 7:03:26 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: veronica

One billion muslims
One pope.
Sorry odds on that one.
I've yet to hear the muzzies say sorry...for anything.
Bless the Pope...and double the Swiss guard.


19 posted on 09/16/2006 7:03:56 AM PDT by Nothometoday
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To: Diogenesis

Gee..that's a lot of apologies.


20 posted on 09/16/2006 7:04:26 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: TexasGreg

The Pope does not evil and apology.


21 posted on 09/16/2006 7:04:33 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Diogenesis

Excellent compilation. You could never post that enough - thank you.


22 posted on 09/16/2006 7:05:13 AM PDT by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Next message from the Pope to mooslims
23 posted on 09/16/2006 7:05:57 AM PDT by diverteach
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To: veronica

bookmark. Excellent.


24 posted on 09/16/2006 7:08:10 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: veronica

heard a newscast this morning.......said that the pope insulted the muslim world by citing something written hundreds of years ago that said the muslim religion is evil and violent. it said further, that some muslims (forgot where) were so outraged, that they fire-bombed a couple of christian churches.


25 posted on 09/16/2006 7:08:11 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Diogenesis
Well done

Bump for later reference.

26 posted on 09/16/2006 7:09:30 AM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: veronica

Muslim Bro:

We demand an apology for all the terror attacks and bombings and tortures and kidnappings and beheadings and mass graves and the mistreatment and butchering of women....

We don't care about words. Sticks and stones break bones, words don't.


27 posted on 09/16/2006 7:09:32 AM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: veronica

"We want a personal apology" = justification for continued violence.


28 posted on 09/16/2006 7:10:01 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Nothometoday
I've yet to hear the muzzies say sorry...for anything.

That's because they see every non-Muslim as an infidel. They still think its the 14th century.

29 posted on 09/16/2006 7:12:37 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: veronica

Here's my apology to islam:

"I'm sorry that islam is a murderous cult of uncivilized, subhuman scumbags...and I'm really sorry that we will have to kill all muslims to have any hope for world peace."


30 posted on 09/16/2006 7:13:15 AM PDT by RouxStir (Islam is the Cancer and Radiation is the Cure.)
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To: veronica

The Pope really didn't say enough. He should have said that Mohammed was a false prophet ... and if there is a liar's prize in hell, Mohammed will get it.


31 posted on 09/16/2006 7:13:27 AM PDT by Designed
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To: Diogenesis

Enemy of islam bump.


32 posted on 09/16/2006 7:14:47 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: Diogenesis

This people are sick, twisted and evil.


33 posted on 09/16/2006 7:15:26 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: Diogenesis

In regard to your list of Muslim violence, I'd also place the assassination of Gandhi - even though it was by a Hindu extremist, I'd argue it brought on by Gandhi's perceived weakness in dealing with the Kashmir/Pakistan problem.

You could arguably interpret many things this way, rightly or wrongly, but thought I'd just throw this one out there as food for thought.


34 posted on 09/16/2006 7:15:35 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: rep-always

These people are sick, twisted and evil.


35 posted on 09/16/2006 7:15:47 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: sgtbono2002

I hope he doesn't retract his statement. If anything, it wasn't strong enough!


36 posted on 09/16/2006 7:15:54 AM PDT by MrLee
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Bump to your message.


37 posted on 09/16/2006 7:16:38 AM PDT by berkeleybeej
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To: Diogenesis

Thank you.


38 posted on 09/16/2006 7:16:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: P.O.E.
"it brought on by" s/b "it was brought on by"
39 posted on 09/16/2006 7:16:58 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Diogenesis
Thank you for clarification. I can only hope that people are finally starting to see the true color of islam and what it's about.

I suggest every American get down to the range and make sure your good at over 150 yds. The problem won't go away till it's dead. It's just a matter of time before TROP thinks it can take us. We need to kill the medusa before it's too late.
40 posted on 09/16/2006 7:18:24 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: veronica
....Muslim Brotherhood Deputy Leader Mohammed Habib told Reuters, Islam's official public relations firm.
41 posted on 09/16/2006 7:19:35 AM PDT by jigsaw (Liberals couldn't act so irresponsibly if Conservatives didn't fight so hard to protect the country.)
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To: veronica

A call is in to St. Andrew . . .


42 posted on 09/16/2006 7:20:33 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: scooby321

No doubt there at a few nut jobs already planning the murder of the Pope. Islamic reaction has proved the Popes point. I'm so sad he has backed down on his statement. We're lost and I see a true clash of civilizations and religions in the future.Sad the the Islamics have such strong allies here in the US ( ACLU , NY TIMES , Dem Party )


43 posted on 09/16/2006 7:22:24 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Pontiac

from Jihadwatch.com

Why doesn't the Times, or anyone, point out that riots and threats are not a constructive way to demonstrate that Islam is actually peaceful?

Why doesn't the Times, or anyone, invite Muslims to bring us, and live out, teachings of Muhammad that are not "evil and inhuman"?

Why doesn't the Times, or anyone, take any serious note of the ongoing persecution of Christians by Muslims, as examples of Muslims "fomenting discord" with Christians not just with words, but with lethal deeds?


44 posted on 09/16/2006 7:22:41 AM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: Diogenesis

Pleas send your pics and statements to C.A.R.E.


45 posted on 09/16/2006 7:26:05 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: veronica

The pope won't of course, but what he should tell the muslim terrorists is that he will apologize for his comment when they apologize for worldwide terror they have committed and continue today to commit upon innocent souls...and then they vow to never terrorize again.


46 posted on 09/16/2006 7:27:18 AM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: veronica

Islam quite the " religion ". It supports a caste system that essentially relegates half it's congregation (female)
to a value about equal to the family dog. For every example where regions were "converted" through peaceful discourse there's ten where violence was the preferred method of "spreading the word".Since the death of Saladin back in the middle ages this movement has literally been stuck in the sand when it comes to integrating with the rest of the world.If it wasn't for the fact that most of it's membership happens to be sitting on a commodity the world needs, most Islamic countries would be the poorest on earth. As far as I'm concerned the Islamic religion is used to legitimize a bunch of street punks who thrive on murder and destruction wherever they go and is just a big scam !!!


47 posted on 09/16/2006 7:27:41 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: veronica
The remarks sparked outrage across the Islamic world.

Oh puhleaze!  Can you water it down a bit more?  It's sparked protests, riots, violence and the burning of a few churches.  Soon to be followed by beheadings, beatings and assorted murders.

All to protest being called a violent religion.

Oh the irony.

48 posted on 09/16/2006 7:27:56 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: RouxStir
"I'm sorry that islam is a murderous cult of uncivilized, subhuman scumbags...and I'm really sorry that we will have to kill all muslims to have any hope for world peace."

Just saw that the Pope apoligized for his 100% correct remarks.

The appeasement continues.

49 posted on 09/16/2006 7:31:06 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: veronica
"...Pope repeated criticism of the Prophet Mohammad by the 14th century Byzantine Emperor..."

Again, NO!. Damn journalists can't resist warping the story via sloppy paraphrasing. There is a big difference from "repeating" a quote, and "citing a passage in literature" in the middle of an academic lecture at university. GRRRRR

50 posted on 09/16/2006 7:34:18 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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