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Anti-Wal-Mart warriors fueling class warfare
Concord Monitor ^ | 9/16/06 | George Will

Posted on 09/16/2006 6:51:22 AM PDT by bitt

Liberal campaign hurts people who need bargains

Evergreen Park, Ill., a suburb contiguous with Chicago's western edge, is 88 percent white. A large majority of the customers of the Wal-Mart that sits here, less than a block outside Chicago, are from the city, and more than 90 percent of the store's customers are African-American. One of whom, a woman pushing a shopping cart with a stoical 3-year-old along for the ride, has a chip on her shoulder about the size of this 141,000 square-foot Wal-Mart. She applied for a job when the store opened in January and was turned down because, she said, the person doing the hiring "had an attitude."

So why is the woman shopping here anyway? She looks at the questioner as though he is dimwitted and directs his attention to the low prices of the DVDs on the rack next to her.

Sensibly, she compartmentalizes her moods and her money. Besides, she should not brood. She had lots of company in not being hired: More than 25,000 people applied for the 325 openings.

Which vexes liberals like John Kerry. (He and his helpmeet last shopped at Wal-Mart when?) In 2004 he tested what has become one of the Democrats' 2006 themes: Wal-Mart is, he said, "disgraceful"and symbolic of "what's wrong with America."

By now, Democrats have succeeded, to their embarrassment (if they are susceptible to that), in making the basic numbers familiar: The median household income of Wal-Mart shoppers is under $40,000. Wal-Mart, the most prodigious job-creator in the history of the private sector in this galaxy, has almost as many employees (1.3 million) as the U.S. military has uniformed personnel.

A McKinsey company study concluded that Wal-Mart accounted for 13 percent of the nation's productivity gains in the second half of the 1990s, ...

(Excerpt) Read more at cmonitor.com ...


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To: Petronski
If lying were enough to get you banned, he'd have lasted a week. Maybe.
251 posted on 09/16/2006 8:15:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: 1rudeboy

He's about as big a libtroll as we've seen around here and he needs to be zotted away quickly so he can go tell his frineds over at DU.....


252 posted on 09/16/2006 8:18:32 PM PDT by Sonar5 (62 Million+ have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Sonar5

I still think it's amusing to slap-around people that post that sort of crap on FR, but I've noticed that more and more folks think it's acceptable. They all tend to be "non-mainstream Republicans" (for lack of a better term) of one form or another . . . or at least they claim to be. :)


253 posted on 09/16/2006 8:21:45 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ex-Texan
People in Oregon hate WM.

Beg to differ. The noisy ones in Oregon hate WM. I shop there often. I was very disappointed Wal Mart backed down from the Beaverton location (just blocks from where I work). For the basic food items I tend to need pick up while out shopping (milk, juice, butter, eggs) WM has darn good prices.

And I tell ya, they can't be beat for their prices on fabric - identical fabric they sell down the block at JoAnns for twice as much. So, some Oregonians hate them, but some really like them, too. IMHO

254 posted on 09/16/2006 8:24:00 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: Petronski
a Wal-Mart employee may result in a cost to federal taxpayers of around $2,103 in the form of federal public assistance programs. With approximately 1.3 million US employees and growing, this amounts to a total of $2.7 billion a year.

May result? Wow, that's some powerful analysis.

WalMart paid $5.8 billion in income taxes last year. They paid $2.5 billion in dividends. I don't know how much sales tax local communities receive from WalMart's $315.6 billion in sales, but I'd think that's another $15 billion or more.

255 posted on 09/16/2006 8:28:58 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Don't forget local property taxes and school taxes....it's for the chillrun...
256 posted on 09/16/2006 8:30:49 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I called out his crap in Post #31, but the lib troll ignored it.

Libs feel it's ok, IMHO, to simply invent statistics and hope the sheeple comply with its rants....

He's lied multiple times in this thread, about this fictitious 70% number, then about a report that he claimed was written by congress, when in fact it was written by staffers.

Then he links to outright union jackthug liberal pondscum websites where they love their libs.

He belongs at DU for this thread alone, regardless of what he has written in the past on other subjects...


257 posted on 09/16/2006 8:31:29 PM PDT by Sonar5 (62 Million+ have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Petronski

Thanks for exposing the fraud.


258 posted on 09/16/2006 8:59:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


259 posted on 09/16/2006 10:28:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Westlander
That's bullcrap. Wally flopped in Germany. Michigan has 20 Wally grocery stores-in the state. Meijer's, Kroger, and Farmer Jack rule the grocery business here.

LMAO Meijer's meat stinks (the only time I have ever seen bacon bleed while cooking it *shudder*) and they treat their help like crap. I know people that left there to go work for WalMart and they like WalMart better. I haven't seen a Kroger in years and have never heard of Farmer Jacks. We used to have a lot of D & W's but being overpriced they are starting to get bought out by Family Fare's.

260 posted on 09/17/2006 4:57:17 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Westlander
Nobody passed the 'script' to me. In the SouthEast section of the Lower of Peninsula of Michigan, (disregarding the Metropolitan Detroit area) Wally Mart is consistently voted down by the 90% caucasian conservative residents.

That would be the heavily Democrat side of the state.

261 posted on 09/17/2006 5:00:10 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Westlander
The other 16 are in the upper section of the lower peninsula of MI. These 4 boarded up stores I drive past. Your page does not indicate your state, so you possibly know nothing of Meijer's.

I know about Meijer's. The last time we specifically looked for something 'made in America', it was a clothing rack. Bought it at Meijer's. Unfortunately, we couldn't get three of the four wheels to rest on the ground at the same time.

262 posted on 09/17/2006 5:14:32 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Niuhuru

Doesn't change anything.


263 posted on 09/17/2006 5:34:42 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen

WEll good point. Or they could have kicked us all out and hired Mexicans. :)


264 posted on 09/17/2006 9:22:57 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: bitt
Which vexes liberals like   John Kerry   . (He and his helpmeet last shopped at Wal-Mart when?) In 2004 he tested what has become one of the Democrats' 2006 themes: Wal-Mart   is   , he said,   "disgraceful"and symbolic of "what's wrong with America.""
265 posted on 09/17/2006 2:15:55 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: ansel12

[Remember if you buy a Ruger rifle from Walmart it will melt if you leave it in the car during the summer. It isn't like the Ruger you buy at other stores.]


How true. I had the same problem with the "Glad" trash bags I bought at WalMart as well as the "Sony" car stereo and the "Kodak" film. They were less expensive than at any other store so I shouldn't have been surprized when all these items fell apart so quickly.

:^)


266 posted on 09/17/2006 6:26:03 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: mozarky2

Well said.


267 posted on 09/17/2006 6:41:11 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: LadyNavyVet
[Socialism fails everywhere it's tried, including corporate America. Just ask the GM and Ford workers whose outrageous pay and benefits packages priced them out of their jobs.]




That is the best illustration of the failure of the wealth redistribution schemes of the outdated Keynesian economic policies still advocated by Democrats, socialists and all those other self described "compassionate" people. Mandating that workers be compensated in greater amounts than that determined by the free market ALWAYS comes at a cost that must eventually be paid in the form of higher prices for everyone and higher unemployment throughout the workforce.

TANSTAAFL
268 posted on 09/17/2006 6:56:13 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: Niuhuru
Or they could have kicked us all out and hired Mexicans. :)

Exactly.

I have worked at both union and non union places. One of the union places, like you, reduced our wages at the company's request. The company said they wouldn't close their doors and move south if we took a wage reduction. They lied! lol The union bartered in good faith, it was the company that lied.

Too often people think that just because someone works at a unionized workplace that they are lazy and not worth their wages.

I have worked at non union workplaces too. The biggest problem with them is that they tend to take advantage whenever possible. Mandatory overtime with no warning. They can fire you on a whim at their discretion. One place I worked at, I worked 12 hour days for 100 days with no days off. Finally, I took the 101 day off. What did I do with my day off? I slept!

Contrast that with a similar situation at a unionized workplace, where the company had to give us a day off at least every three weeks.

In areas where decent paying jobs are hard to come by, a union can help insure that a company treats their employees in a humane manner.

If employers treated their employees well, there wouldn't be a need for unions. jmo

269 posted on 09/18/2006 5:23:02 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: ex-Texan

"About 70% of WM employees (and their children) are dependent upon upon government for Medicare or Medicaid."

Yet the people aren't angry at the government for even delving into such an individual choice? How stupid are these people that are angry? They want the government to take care of them, therefore they want to limit the choice of the other 30%.


270 posted on 09/18/2006 5:30:00 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: ex-Texan

I can't believe any FReeper would use "Political Affairs - A Marxist Monthly" as their source. Talk about kool-aid.....


271 posted on 09/18/2006 5:32:44 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: ex-Texan

"© 2005 United Food and Commercial Workers International Union."

First you source a Marxist publication, now you source this bunch of socialists. Feel free to continue to align yourself with the loony left of Oregon as well. Your agenda is showing and your credibility is gone.

Name one socialism success story?


272 posted on 09/18/2006 5:44:30 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: ex-Texan

From your link:



"Specifically, the Committee estimates that the low wages result in the following additional public costs being passed along to taxpayers for an average 200-employee store:"

$36,000 a year for free and reduced lunches for just 50 qualifying Wal-Mart families.
$42,000 a year for low income housing assistance, assuming 3 percent of the store employees qualify for such assistance, at $6,700 per family.
$125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for low-income families, assuming 50 employees are heads of household with a child and 50 are married with two children.
$100,000 a year for the additional Title I expenses, assuming 50 Wal-Mart families qualify with an average of 2 children.
$108,000 a year for the additional federal health care costs of moving into state children’s health insurance programs (S-CHIP), assuming 30 employees with an average of two children qualify.
$9,750 a year for the additional costs for low income energy assistance."


Of course, if you didn't have the socialist policies in government above, the operating costs of Wal Mart could be lowered and the wage of workers could be raised. This is a government caused problem, the answer is not more government.

Why are you on FR?


273 posted on 09/18/2006 5:48:02 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: ex-Texan

I've found your statement on WM and other stores to be true. When our first Wally World opened a couple of years ago I shopped there, teased by the word-of-mouth and my SIL's loyalty to the chain (she lives in Arkansas). I found it crowded, the asiles cluttered and disorganized, the checkouts packed and the prices were NOT competitive. Groceries I buy on a regular basis were priced higher than Meijer: that said, Meijer had been lowering prices for months in anticipating of losing customers to Wal-Mart. They didn't lose me.

One thing they have in common -- lousy checkouts.


274 posted on 09/18/2006 5:51:05 AM PDT by Kieri (A Grafted Branch (Rom. 11))
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To: ex-Texan

"He takes the position that employers have no duty to provide any benefits to workers. That may have been true in the early 1900's. That is not true today. Most employers offer decent wages and health care benefits. WM elects to provide the minimum."

This alone shows that you hate the economic natural state of capitalism. Capitalism is not an economic policy, it is a natural state. That is the root cause of your socialist policies failing.

If other employers offer more, for the same value added labor, why does the employee CHOSE to stay employed at Wal-Mart?

"I take the simple position that WM is allowing the government to provide health care benefits."

Then why not support legislation eliminating the programs that allow for any citizen to get government provided health insurance?


275 posted on 09/18/2006 5:51:45 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: ex-Texan; ansel12

"You sound just like an activist for Wal-Mart. Or, perhaps, a lobbyist spending a few hours on FR to help your client. I do not buy your arguments either."

You post crap from Marxist monthly and union activist sites and when it gets pointed out to you that these websites are run by socialist activists, you call that poster an activist? Is your closet full of brown shirts?

All you are doing is web thuggery!


276 posted on 09/18/2006 5:59:37 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: ansel12

"I ask anyone..."

Hey, looks like I pre-emptively took you up on your challange.


277 posted on 09/18/2006 6:04:57 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: Westlander

"I only purchase U.S. products, made in the U.S., with U.S. parts, by U.S. workers, from U.S. owned companies."

You must go thru a lot of shoes as it would be impossible to make a purchase that meets that criteria for any high cost item. (i.e. automobile)


278 posted on 09/18/2006 6:16:30 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: ex-Texan

Have you actually SHOPPED at Wal-mart ... then Target ... then HEB? While like anything yes you can find "bargains" .. but overall Wal-mart offers greater selection and lower prices on groceries.

For meat - I hit Costco or Sam's ... but for basic groceries Wal-mart is consistently lower .. at least here in South Texas.


279 posted on 09/18/2006 6:22:11 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: Westlander

Where is that store?


280 posted on 09/18/2006 6:30:24 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: CSM
The left and the union shills just don't understand the basics of economics. They think the government owns everything and just passes out a share of it to the people, sounds like Marxism to me.
281 posted on 09/18/2006 6:34:50 AM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat,)
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To: bfree

And many let their emotional hatred of one specific corporation get in their way, resulting in support for Marxist policies! It will happen every time intellect and logic are subjucated to emotions!


282 posted on 09/18/2006 6:38:58 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: Sonar5

What got me about the article was they made it sound like Evergreen Park is way out in the suburbs .. when in fact it butts right up against the city.

YEARS ago the area wasn't safe... has Evergreen Park gone through some sort of rebirth?

In the early 70's my orthodontist was at 95th and Western. One day I decided to take the bus all the way to Western on 63rd .. then down. (Instead of Cicero to 95th and across like I was supposed to) An elderly black lady got on at Western with me and sat with me... and asked me why a little white girl would be on that bus.. I told her I wanted to take a different route... she admonished me that I should listen to my parents. She rode with me all the way to 95th .. the bus driver offered her a free transfer back and thanked her for staying with me... (Remember this wasn't that long after the '68 riots...) She talked to me about Jesus .. which was something we had in common ... we had prayer.. which was wonderful. It was an enriching experience for me - and the Lord, the lady and the bus driver were watching out for me - but after that I took my regular route.


283 posted on 09/18/2006 6:39:35 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: Old Student

Part-time Walmart employees are eligible for benefits after being employed for two years. My neighbor has worked for them for years. She transferred from a Wal-mart in NC to one here in TX.


284 posted on 09/18/2006 6:41:21 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: pamlet

"For meat - I hit Costco or Sam's ... but for basic groceries Wal-mart is consistently lower .. at least here in South Texas"



Sam's is owned by Walmart, and Cosco is owned by a democrat activist.


285 posted on 09/18/2006 8:22:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (illicit sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: CSM
I can't believe any FReeper would use "Political Affairs - A Marxist Monthly" as their source.

I've seen folks quoting Public Citizen, Media Matters, and other lib think-tanks and advocacy groups, but that was was rather brazen. Responding with invective after it was pointed out was typical, though.

286 posted on 09/18/2006 8:28:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I didn't even think it was allowed. I suppose we need a few of these tokens to kick around......


287 posted on 09/18/2006 8:30:24 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: CSM
What's interesting (I think I may have mentioned this somewhere above) is what happens afterward. A few times I've seen people admit "sorry, it's the first thing that I saw during a Google search . . . ," which is perfectly reasonable.

But most times the response is, "what are your motives in attacking the source over the substance?" It's laughable. And I'm talking about repeat offenders.

288 posted on 09/18/2006 8:35:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ansel12

Well I decided long ago I'll go where I want for the best quality at the best price.... no matter WHERE you shop there's an up and downside...

I hit Costco because it's next to the Wal-mart... If I'm further down the road I go to Sam's... :)


289 posted on 09/18/2006 8:51:58 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: pamlet

"Well I decided long ago I'll go where I want for the best quality at the best price."




Same here, unless a retailer did something that was just too clearly confrontational.

I respond to basic market forces, meaning that for my basics, like groceries, I shop purely based on price, politics be d*amned, I won't subsidize mediocrity, or incompetence.


290 posted on 09/18/2006 9:31:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (illicit sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: ansel12

Around here Sam's sells choice, WalMart sells select. Other than that WalMart groceries are as good as any others.


291 posted on 09/18/2006 9:35:51 AM PDT by John D
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To: John D

I am talking about beef. I should have made that more clear.


292 posted on 09/18/2006 9:38:10 AM PDT by John D
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To: Netizen

http://www.kroger.com/homepage/index.htm
http://www.farmerjack.com/ Owned by A&P

Any pre-packeged meat is injected with nitrogen for preservation. That is why it has 'frozen and rewarmed flavor'.

Buy Fresh off the cow/pig/fowl.


293 posted on 09/18/2006 3:33:19 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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