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Anti-Wal-Mart warriors fueling class warfare
Concord Monitor ^ | 9/16/06 | George Will

Posted on 09/16/2006 6:51:22 AM PDT by bitt

Liberal campaign hurts people who need bargains

Evergreen Park, Ill., a suburb contiguous with Chicago's western edge, is 88 percent white. A large majority of the customers of the Wal-Mart that sits here, less than a block outside Chicago, are from the city, and more than 90 percent of the store's customers are African-American. One of whom, a woman pushing a shopping cart with a stoical 3-year-old along for the ride, has a chip on her shoulder about the size of this 141,000 square-foot Wal-Mart. She applied for a job when the store opened in January and was turned down because, she said, the person doing the hiring "had an attitude."

So why is the woman shopping here anyway? She looks at the questioner as though he is dimwitted and directs his attention to the low prices of the DVDs on the rack next to her.

Sensibly, she compartmentalizes her moods and her money. Besides, she should not brood. She had lots of company in not being hired: More than 25,000 people applied for the 325 openings.

Which vexes liberals like John Kerry. (He and his helpmeet last shopped at Wal-Mart when?) In 2004 he tested what has become one of the Democrats' 2006 themes: Wal-Mart is, he said, "disgraceful"and symbolic of "what's wrong with America."

By now, Democrats have succeeded, to their embarrassment (if they are susceptible to that), in making the basic numbers familiar: The median household income of Wal-Mart shoppers is under $40,000. Wal-Mart, the most prodigious job-creator in the history of the private sector in this galaxy, has almost as many employees (1.3 million) as the U.S. military has uniformed personnel.

A McKinsey company study concluded that Wal-Mart accounted for 13 percent of the nation's productivity gains in the second half of the 1990s, ...

(Excerpt) Read more at cmonitor.com ...


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To: Balding_Eagle; ex-Texan

I promised the study.

Seesh, it was too easy. The link at the top of the thread leads directly to George Wills summary of the study.

The libs are really stupid to go on this rampage against WM. More people shop there EACH WEEK than have ever voted in any election.


51 posted on 09/16/2006 8:39:14 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: mozarky2
You are right to be cautious. But I'm telling the truth. Grocery prices are much cheaper at Win-Co. Months ago I went out pricing all the stores in the area. Wal-Mart was the last store I went to and I was greatly disappointed. First, by the appearance of the store. It looked dirty. The floors appeared unwashed. Second: Those hokey signs with happy faces turned me off totally. The high prices on those signs really freaked me out. I kept asking myself, "Why do people shop here? Prices are lower at Target." Third: People are opposing new WM stores in Oregon. This is grass roots movement. People became very upset in city council mettings. In Beaverton, WM finally gave up fighting

If you must, get on a plane. You will see the proof with your own eyes.

52 posted on 09/16/2006 8:45:28 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

" the lowest prices for food are found at WinCo. Prices are about 25% cheaper than WM."
"The truth is that WM's food prices are higher in many cases than other local merchants"
"The only thing I have purchased from WM in the past three months was a large container of liquid detergent sold on sale as a special item"
"Wal-Mart's marketing is based on the public perception that it's prices are less than other retail stores"




You sure don't respect this thread much you're simply making stuff up and trying to pass it off as knowledge.

We don't even have to be fans of Walmart to know how silly your statements are.

The most cost conscious shoppers in America have identified Walmart as the lowest priced store, yet you are telling us your chain is 25% cheaper.

Winco is in my state now, I can't wait for Walmart to reduce their groceries another 25% so that they can survive against the store that you consider more acceptable to Democrat sensibilities.


53 posted on 09/16/2006 8:47:36 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; ansel12

See my post #52 and read the links. People in Oregon hate WM.


54 posted on 09/16/2006 8:50:59 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: bitt
In the early 90s I lost a decent job and immediately took a part time job (25 hrs/wk) as a "WalMart associate" until I located another "real" job. I worked there for about 5 months and the work was pleasant and easy (which is why it doesn't pay very much) and that steady income, small as it was, saved my butt in a town which had an unemployment rate of 11% at the time, and allowed me to pay my family's bills WITHOUT having to resort to taking money from the American taxpayer.

WalMart employs more than a million workers to stock shelves and operate cash registers and mop floors. Most of these positions are filled by people who are working there temporarily to pick up some steady cash either between "real" jobs or as students working part time, or they're not the major wage earners in a household but are just picking up "extra" cash. In any case, the type of work required doesn't deserve to be paid higher than it is and the type of socialist thinking that says companies should pay people more than their free market value as workers may be dripping with compassion and may make its believers feel good about themselves for their generosity with other people's money, but it ALWAYS comes at a cost to the people it's intended to help.

All those still supporting the outdated ideas of government managed wealth redistribution through mandated arbitrary wages and benefits need to gain an understanding of what REAL compassion means, and learn how free markets best help the poor as well as the rich.
55 posted on 09/16/2006 8:55:10 AM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: shankbear
Wal Mart isn't perfect but what is the DUthug's alternative.

Liberals would only consider Osama bin Laden to be a genuine terrorist if he ran a Wal-Mart.

56 posted on 09/16/2006 8:57:29 AM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge

"What gets me is the morons who actually think unions want to help Wal Mart workers. NO THEY WANT THEIR DUES!"

That is the truth. I work under one and all they want is that tiny slice of your paycheck.

And another thing: If unions were so pro worker, they never would have allowed my workplace to hack away at my health insurance so the store could pay for remodeling.


57 posted on 09/16/2006 8:57:47 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: ex-Texan

See my post #52 and read the links. People in Oregon hate WM.


Liberals hate WM and Oregon is very liberal so you may be right. Conservatives like the free market, liberals like socialism.


58 posted on 09/16/2006 9:02:48 AM PDT by John D
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To: Balding_Eagle; ansel12
Guess that is why this web site has links proving Wal-Mart's high costs and over charging?


59 posted on 09/16/2006 9:03:29 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

I won't dispute your point that ?win-Co? has lower prices. I've never heard of them, so they very well might.

George Wills point was that for most Americans WM is a financial savior of sorts, and that Liberals are absolute fools to take the positions they have.

Why would a politician chose to needlessly insult the very voters they are courting? See my tagline

I seldom shop WM myself, but when I have I've never encountered the environment you've outlined. I'd guess most shoppers haven't or WM would be out of business.

The fact that enough people in Oregon oppose WM is no surprise. Oregon is known for its liberal viewpoints, and "F---k You" attitude towards the poor. It their state. WM should not build there. Just like Chicago.


60 posted on 09/16/2006 9:05:48 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: mozarky2; ex-Texan

I think if you factor in the local stores having double coupons, and weekly specials, the local stores are quite a bit cheper. I know they are for me, and I doubt that study included either one.


61 posted on 09/16/2006 9:06:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: ex-Texan

You read your own links, they are lefties.

Most of us here are aware that the left fights tooth and nail against Walmart, so far they have kept the Walmart grocery stores out of San Diego it is what they do.

You are clearly a part of the anti Walmart movement.

Some people on this thread don't like Walmart, but they are speaking in their own words.

Your words, are the words of the Lefts activism.

You are clearly speaking from a script.


62 posted on 09/16/2006 9:06:31 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: ex-Texan

Win-Co in Boise is the dirtiest, most discusting store(s) in the area. I price shop for everything. Win-Co may have some products that are cheaper, but in other cases they are more. I don't know where you get your facts, but Target is more expensive than Walmart on almost everything. You do live in the People's Republic of Oregon so what do you expect.


63 posted on 09/16/2006 9:09:53 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: SHOOT THE MOON bat
Here is that proof you asked for about the federal government paying for WM employees health care. Statistics are from the Congress:

House Committee on Education and Workforce

64 posted on 09/16/2006 9:10:03 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

"Guess that is why this web site has links proving Wal-Mart's high costs and over charging?"





Good God you make my point, you link to a leftist web site.

Here is a link to another site that seriously addresses the left's attacks on Wal-Mart.

http://www.mises.org/story/2219


65 posted on 09/16/2006 9:13:29 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: ansel12
"You are clearly speaking from a script . . ."

LOL, LOL, LOL ! You are getting very weird. Or wired. Drink too much coffee today?

66 posted on 09/16/2006 9:13:46 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

Here is that proof you asked for about the federal government paying for WM employees health care. Statistics are from the Congress:


And how much would the govt be paying if WM did not have any payroll. The people you are refering to are primarily part timers who would not receive health care anywhere they worked. It just looks different because WM hires more people than anyone else.


67 posted on 09/16/2006 9:16:05 AM PDT by John D
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To: MarkeyD

"Win-Co in Boise is the dirtiest, most discusting store(s) in the area. I price shop for everything. Win-Co may have some products that are cheaper, but in other cases they are more. I don't know where you get your facts, but Target is more expensive than Walmart on almost everything. You do live in the People's Republic of Oregon so what do you expect."







This poster is an anti Walmart activist, his interest isn't related to the facts of the store, as it relates to the consumer.

His interest in Walmart is as a political issue, attacking Walmart is a way to further a larger agenda.


68 posted on 09/16/2006 9:19:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: bitt; Gabz

Gabz, did you see this one?


69 posted on 09/16/2006 9:21:30 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: John D

ex-Texan obviously has an axe to grind. He's obviously a not so clandestine Dem trying to make a point.


70 posted on 09/16/2006 9:21:37 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: ansel12

This poster is an anti Walmart activist, his interest isn't related to the facts of the store, as it relates to the consumer.

His interest in Walmart is as a political issue, attacking Walmart is a way to further a larger agenda.



Well liberals will be liberals. If something is good for the US it is bad for them and they could not have that.


71 posted on 09/16/2006 9:21:52 AM PDT by John D
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To: ansel12
You beat me to it. See my post 70.
72 posted on 09/16/2006 9:22:48 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: ex-Texan

In post 59, ex-texan gives a link to WakeupWalmart.com, here is a CNN headline mentioning ex-texans "grassroots" movement.


"Unions launch bus tour against Wal-Mart
WakeupWalmart.com tours 35 cities to protest No. 1 retailer's practices"


73 posted on 09/16/2006 9:28:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: ansel12
The truth is often found in the most inconvenient places. That web site you linked avoids the whole question of employee health care. The writer deals with the issue as a philosophical matter. He takes the position that employers have no duty to provide any benefits to workers. That may have been true in the early 1900's. That is not true today. Most employers offer decent wages and health care benefits. WM elects to provide the minimum.

I take the simple position that WM is allowing the government to provide health care benefits. Guess that is why WM's CEO has been on the news and in television ads talking about these issues? He must be worried about people learning the truth.

74 posted on 09/16/2006 9:28:44 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ansel12

My favorite story was about some Walmart protesters that were being paid by a union, and of course, these protesters got paid less than the average Walmart employee and had no medical coverage.


75 posted on 09/16/2006 9:30:29 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: ex-Texan
[First, by the appearance of the store. It looked dirty. The floors appeared unwashed. Second: Those hokey signs with happy faces turned me off totally. The high prices on those signs really freaked me out. I kept asking myself, "Why do people shop here? Prices are lower at Target." Third:People are opposing new WM stores in Oregon. This is grass roots movement.]


Understand that I'm not accusing you or your motives and I take your criticism of WalMart at face value as your honest belief, but the above statements don't make sense to me. I've never been in (nor heard of) a WalMart with dirty floors or higher prices than the competition, but perhaps the one store you're familiar with in Oregon is the exception. But the idea that the opposition to WalMart is a "grass roots movement" is completely implausible. I did check out the link you provided and it went to a website that was an activist anti-WalMart site and the story it showed was of 50 people in Portland protesting a proposed new store and it looked exactly like every other contrived union protest I've ever seen. It was obviously a preplanned, organized union event with almost as many speakers as "protesters". It certainly was not a spontaneous event precipitated by people angry over anything WalMart had done to them.

There is a lot of wealth and power available to those willing to exploit feelings of class envy and engage in anti-capitalist rhetoric, and as long as enough compassionate people are gullible enough to believe in it and donate money to their causes and vote for their candidates then they'll continue to do so.
76 posted on 09/16/2006 9:30:29 AM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: ThanhPhero
The fight over WalMarts seems to be a matter of wealthy folks trying to pull down the preferred merchant of the less affluent people

First rule of Liberalism: Never EVER try to influence events that might hurt YOU. Always, ALWAYS try to influence events will hurt those you are supposedly speaking for.

77 posted on 09/16/2006 9:33:27 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The state board will meet in closed session to discuss whether it violated an open meetings law)
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To: MarkeyD

Here is an article by ex-texans "grassroots" group wakeupwalmart.com





Monday, July 31, 2006
Are You On the Bus or Off the Bus?
From WakeUpWalMart:

19 States, 35 Cities, 35 Days
1 Mission
Change Wal-Mart and Change America
That’s right. Starting tomorrow, for 35 straight days, WakeUpWalmart.com is taking its national movement, and our headquarters, on the road in a non-stop, cross-country bus tour hitting 19 states and 35 cities in 35 days. The tour is an exciting and unprecedented move in our campaign to change Wal-Mart and build a grassroots movement to stop big, powerful corporations from taking America in the wrong direction.

So, for the next 840 hours, 6 over-caffeinated Americans and one really big 45-foot long bus (nicknamed Smiley) are going from New York City to Seattle to fight for good jobs, more affordable health care, and a better life for all hard-working families. Click here to get on board the bus and join our fight for a better America:

http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/tour/rsvp/

The fight to change Wal-Mart is already being referred to as one of the “hottest, highest stakes political contests in America.” And, our national bus tour will be no exception. At several stops, we will be joined by some of our nation's best and most passionate political leaders like John Edwards, former Vice Presidential candidate and U.S. Senator.

With over 248,000 Americans, WakeUpWalMart.com is standing up to rich, powerful corporations like Wal-Mart and spreading the word that it is time for Wal-Mart to do what is right instead of shipping U.S. jobs overseas and not providing affordable health care. In town halls, public squares, and at state fairs, we will be hitting the streets to take our fight for a better America directly to the American people.

Will you join the most exciting grassroots movement and help us fight for a better America? Click here to RSVP to the 2006 Change Wal-Mart, Change America tour stop in your town:

http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/tour/rsvp/

Over the next 35 days, we will be sending you emails from the road and updating our website every day with photos, videos, funny tidbits and upcoming event details. If you don’t want to miss any part of the tour, be sure to check back often.

Most importantly, sign more people up to the campaign. We have set a goal of signing up at least 25,000 new supporters over the next 35 days. Please do everything you can to recruit at least 5 more friends.

If nothing else proves the power ordinary people have to do extraordinary things, just look last week at what happened in the city of Chicago. Despite Wal-Mart’s enormous efforts to defeat a living wage bill, the Chicago City council set a new bar for what it means to be a responsible corporate citizen and passed a living wage for working families.

A living wage in Chicago is a testament to the power you have to change a $300 billion company, to change corporate America, and to change the world we live in. But, change begins by joining together. I hope you will join with us and our 248,000 supporters as we go across the country to fight for a better America.

Thank you for all that you do,
Paul Blank, WakeUpWalMart.com


78 posted on 09/16/2006 9:34:38 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: ansel12
Looks like this Paul Blank is a former political director for the Howard Dean campaign. That explains a lot.Here
79 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:37 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: MarkeyD; John D; ansel12
I take the simple position that WM is allowing the government to provide health care benefits.

The irony here is that I'm opposing a company requiring employees to go on Medicaid. You are taking the exact opposite point of view. Apparently, you people believe all companies ought to require workers to get their health care from the government. And then you allege that I'm a liberal?

That is an example of a bunch liberal kettles is calling the one conservative pot black!

80 posted on 09/16/2006 9:40:57 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan
But I'm telling the truth. Grocery prices are much cheaper at Win-Co.

Are they national? If not, then why bother mentioning them? People will look around and shop where they get the best value. I recall a couple of years ago, comparing prices and finding Target to be higher than K Mart and some other stores. Didn't shope at Target! lol

81 posted on 09/16/2006 9:41:42 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: ex-Texan

Here is a short little release by your movement, and it makes clear your politics. Why you thought linking us to wakeupwalmart.com would persuade conservatives to support the union movement, and the left is beyond me.



Starting August 1, 2006 in New York City, WakeUpWalMart.com started a 19-state, 35-day tour of 35 cities across the country. By mid-August the bus was in Iowa, where a number of presidential hopefuls also happened to be. On August 15 Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) participated in an event in front of the Linn County Court House in Cedar Rapids; on August 16 Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) participated in a press conference at the Iowa State Historical building in Des Moines; and on August 17 Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) and Gov. Tom Vilsack (D-IA) participated in a town hall meeting at Sullivan Brothers Convention Center in Waterloo. WakeUpWalMart.com is a project of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union.


82 posted on 09/16/2006 9:42:22 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: ansel12

Also, this Paul Blank is only 27 and has never had a real job. His job is this anti Walmart website. What a scam.


83 posted on 09/16/2006 9:43:30 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Niuhuru
And another thing: If unions were so pro worker, they never would have allowed my workplace to hack away at my health insurance so the store could pay for remodeling.

What if your workplace told the union that if they didn't reduce your wages, they would move to Mexico? IT HAPPENS!

84 posted on 09/16/2006 9:44:04 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: ex-Texan
he writer deals with the issue as a philosophical matter. He takes the position that employers have no duty to provide any benefits to workers. That may have been true in the early 1900's. That is not true today.

Duty? Since when is there a "duty" to provide benefits? Benefits are an inducement.

Most employers offer decent wages and health care benefits. WM elects to provide the minimum.

Which is their right. WM's DUTY is to make as much money as possible. If benefits isn't part of their business model, then so be it.

Want a job with benefits? Here's a thought: Go to college when you are young or learn a real trade and then make yourself attractive to the marker and get a job that offers benefits.

I know it is a radical idea.

85 posted on 09/16/2006 9:44:18 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The state board will meet in closed session to discuss whether it violated an open meetings law)
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To: ex-Texan

The irony here is that I'm opposing a company requiring employees to go on Medicaid.


WM does not nor could they REQUIRE their employees go on Medicaid.


86 posted on 09/16/2006 9:44:46 AM PDT by John D
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To: MarkeyD

"Looks like this Paul Blank is a former political director for the Howard Dean campaign. That explains a lot.Here"


Wow, that is rich





"In turn, Wakeup Wal-Mart is led by, among others, Paul Blank, former political director for the Howard Dean presidential campaign, and Chris Kofinis, who helped create the DraftWesleyClark.com campaign.

Wal-Mart Watch's media team includes Jim Jordan, former director of the Kerry campaign, and Tracy Sefl, a former Democratic National Committee aide responsible for distributing negative press reports about President Bush during the 2004 campaign."


87 posted on 09/16/2006 9:47:28 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: SHOOT THE MOON bat; ex-Texan
So what your telling us is that the American tax payer is funding health care coverage for Walmart employees?

So is my company. When we approach the renewal time for health care they have stacks of "Husky Care" (CT's form of socialized health care) pamphlets on the personnel manager's desk. They are promoting the program to avoid having to pay enough wages for the people to pay for health care themselves.

88 posted on 09/16/2006 9:49:03 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: spinestein
There are hundreds of thousands of news reports on Oregon's Wal-Mart battles. Some communities have welcomed WM. Others do not want the company in their area. Some communities learned the hard way that WM destroys local businesses. Blanket allegations about unions stirring up trouble for WM miss the point: Local folks are angry today and fighting back. WM is a giant corporation with millions to burn. They have won some battles, but the war is still going on in Oregon.
89 posted on 09/16/2006 9:55:09 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: bitt

I love shopping at the Walmart grocery stores. I save so much more money and now only go to the chain supermarkets for emergencies only. The stores aren't union here but the prices are still higher than Walmart.


90 posted on 09/16/2006 9:56:14 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: ex-Texan

"Blanket allegations about unions stirring up trouble for WM miss the point: Local folks are angry today and fighting back."


Quit trying to BS these people, you are an activist that is trying to contribute to the national publicity campaign your side is on right now.




"WakeUpWalMart.com is a project of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union.

Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) participated in an event in front of the Linn County Court House in Cedar Rapids; on August 16 Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) participated in a press conference at the Iowa State Historical building in Des Moines; and on August 17 Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) and Gov. Tom Vilsack (D-IA) participated in a town hall meeting at Sullivan Brothers Convention Center in Waterloo."


In turn, Wakeup Wal-Mart is led by, among others, Paul Blank, former political director for the Howard Dean presidential campaign, and Chris Kofinis, who helped create the DraftWesleyClark.com campaign.

Wal-Mart Watch's media team includes Jim Jordan, former director of the Kerry campaign, and Tracy Sefl, a former Democratic National Committee aide responsible for distributing negative press reports about President Bush during the 2004 campaign."


91 posted on 09/16/2006 10:04:38 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: shankbear
Wal Mart isn't perfect but what is the DUthug's alternative.

Foraging. Bartering. Dumpster Diving. And of course recycling. Yum, recycled pot roast.

92 posted on 09/16/2006 10:06:28 AM PDT by kylaka
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To: ex-Texan

But you are conveniently ignoring the stories showing these local businesses weren't paying any more or providing health care for their employees either. And you are also ignoring those stories showing where Walmart, as an anchor store, draws in and improves the economy of the area.


93 posted on 09/16/2006 10:07:00 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: ex-Texan

Some communities learned the hard way that WM destroys local businesses.


This is what it usually boils down to. Local businesses that have been gouging their customers for years get upset when competition moves in and they are no longer able to charge the inflated prices they are used to. Liberal socialism at work.


94 posted on 09/16/2006 10:09:32 AM PDT by John D
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To: MarkeyD
I know of people that work at WalMart that used to work at one of their unionized competitors and I asked them if they liked it better at Walmart and they said yes.

WalMart must have something going for it.

95 posted on 09/16/2006 10:11:37 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: ex-Texan

"Why do people shop here? Prices are lower at Target."

Where are you? That is certainly not true here in Oklahoma. Not as a general rule, at any rate. For some items, perhaps.


96 posted on 09/16/2006 10:13:42 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: yankeedame

Great pic! I'd pay money to see that creep in a WalMart vest for real.


97 posted on 09/16/2006 10:15:24 AM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: Old Student

It's not true anywhere.


98 posted on 09/16/2006 10:15:56 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: pleikumud

The RATs also seem to be unaware that there are 1.3 W-M employees who will think seriously about not voting for the Party that wants to destroy their employer. They also fail to recall that about six of the top billionnaires in the world are named Walton. Will the Walton rich donate to RAT candadiates? NOT!


99 posted on 09/16/2006 10:16:28 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: ansel12
You sound just like an activist for Wal-Mart. Or, perhaps, a lobbyist spending a few hours on FR to help your client. I do not buy your arguments either.
100 posted on 09/16/2006 10:18:06 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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