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Bush warns detainee program might end
Houston Chronicle ^ | Sept. 16, 2006, 3:53PM | MICHAEL HEDGES and PATTY REINERT

Posted on 09/16/2006 3:18:44 PM PDT by upchuck

Sept. 16, 2006, 3:53PM

Bush warns detainee program might end

By MICHAEL HEDGES and PATTY REINERT
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON - President Bush heatedly warned rebellious Republicans and other lawmakers Friday that CIA questioning of high-value terrorism suspects will end unless the rules are clarified on how far the interrogations can go.

"Congress has got a decision to make. Do you want the program to go forward or not?" Bush said of the interrogations, his voice rising as his hands chopped a lectern to punctuate his point. "The bottom line is simple: If Congress passes a law that does not clarify the rules, the program's not going forward."

The political fight about the international rules that the Supreme Court has said must govern treatment of terror suspects dominated the president's Rose Garden news conference.

The Senate measure

The Senate Armed Services Committee, headed by Republican Sen. John Warner of Virginia, passed a bill Thursday that would preserve the existing standard for interrogating anyone captured during the war on terror: Common Article 3 in the 1949 Geneva Conventions that bans "outrages upon personal dignity (and) humiliating and degrading treatment."

Warner and fellow Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina have argued that changing the standard would open the door for other countries to interpret the rules on prisoner treatment in ways that could endanger captured Americans. Former Bush administration Secretary of State Colin Powell also expressed concerns about the Bush proposals, saying he feared the United States was compromising its moral authority in the world.

On Powell's concerns, Bush snapped, "It's unacceptable to think there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective."

Bush said the standards are so vague that CIA officers could face criminal prosecution for using interrogation techniques such as applying heat or cold to prisoners' surroundings or temporarily withholding food or light.

Democrats respond

Democrats were anxious to highlight the rift among Republicans on an issue that could potentially influence voters' minds in the November congressional elections.

"Instead of picking fights with Colin Powell, John McCain and other military experts, President Bush should change course, do what the American people expect, and finally give them the real security they deserve," said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

But Bush repeated contentions that using rough techniques to get information from terrorists such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, already had stopped further attacks inside the United States. Bush warned in dire tones that any compromise of the interrogation program would increase the risk of attack.

"Time is running out," Bush said. "Congress needs to act wisely and promptly."

Congress will face several options next week on how to proceed on the interrogation program.

The House Armed Services Committee passed 52-8 — with strong support from both Democrats and Republicans — the administration's version of the bill. The legislation would assign Congress the task of providing detailed wording on what is legal in detainee interrogations.

Senator faces decision

In the Senate, Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said he has not decided whether to bring to the floor the committee bill that defied Bush's stance.

As the leader of GOP senators, Frist can have the Senate debate Bush's proposal, which he supports.

Any bill that goes to the full Senate floor would be subject to proposed amendments and the resulting legislation would then have to be reconciled with the House's pro-Bush bill by a Senate-House committee.

There are several key differences between the Bush administration's plan and the Warner-McCain-Graham bill, but the critical impasse is about the Geneva Conventions' language.

Under the Bush bill, Common Article 3 would be interpreted to ban "severe physical or mental pain or suffering, including severe physical abuse" — the same language used by McCain in the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, which banned torture in interrogations. But McCain wants to preserve Article 3's broader protections, such as the prohibition of degrading treatment and other aggressive techniques that fall short of torture.

McCain's bill would ban "cruel, unusual or inhumane treatment" as defined by U.S. courts interpreting the Constitution's 5th, 8th and 14th Amendments.


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To: upchuck

Powell and McCain are Bob Woodward's kind of Conservative.


41 posted on 09/16/2006 5:14:26 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Rosemont

I just want to Apologize on behalf of my state, Arizona, for the obvious blight on our senate, John McCain. I did not vote for him in the last election, but unfortunately, too many other republicans did! We tried a recall effort here but again that fell far short of getting on a ballot...


42 posted on 09/16/2006 5:21:04 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: upchuck

McNitWit can go shove it. That treasonous bastard needs to be taken to the WOODSHED - now!


43 posted on 09/16/2006 5:37:10 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Repeal the 17th)
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To: operation clinton cleanup; upchuck

I stole the picture off of previous threads, I just cropped it and reduced it's size. I have no idea where the original came from, but I have seen versions of it popping up on FR for a couple of years.


44 posted on 09/16/2006 5:40:25 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

If you don't mind, I am saving it for future use!


45 posted on 09/16/2006 5:43:16 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: upchuck

President Bush should do as his office dictates: issue an Executive Order to continue the current process and dare the Courts to enforce their decree. Use military force, if necessary. It is time to protect this country and not listen to the traitors who want us dead....


46 posted on 09/16/2006 6:26:31 PM PDT by olinr
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To: upchuck
...Colin Powell, John McCain and other military experts....

What an idiot Harry Reid continually demonstrates himself to be.

47 posted on 09/16/2006 6:29:12 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: indianrightwinger

No problem!!

It needs to be said loudly and often!


48 posted on 09/16/2006 7:52:38 PM PDT by jch10
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