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House Passes Public Expression Of Religion Act (Bill To Stop ACLU Tax Funding): 244 to 173
Stop The ACLU ^ | 26-Sep-06 | John Stephenson

Posted on 09/26/2006 4:18:43 PM PDT by Jay777

Well, we are half way there! Now the legislation needs to pass the Senate. This will be more difficult to do, so we continue to need all of the support we can get. The roll call is in from the House and its not good news for the ACLU! The bill, H.R. 2679, would deny legal fees and out-of-pocket expenses to be taken from taxpayers and given put into the pockets of groups like the ACLU when they successfully sue against references to God and religion in public settings, has passed by a vote of 244-173! This is good news, but it isn't the end of the battle. The legislation still needs to pass the Senate and for that to happen we will need all the support we can get. Keep contacting your Senators and let them know you support it!

Americans United for Seperation of Church and State are quite upset!

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United, said the House leadership is obsessed with playing to powerful Religious Right lobbying groups that have been pressing for the legislation.

(Excerpt) Read more at stoptheaclu.com ...


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1 posted on 09/26/2006 4:18:44 PM PDT by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; EdReform; Nick Danger; ...
Ping!
2 posted on 09/26/2006 4:19:37 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777
Send Christmas cards. This is coming early (really early) so that you can get ready to include an important address to your list.

Read on........ What a GREAT idea!

Fun with the ACLU......

Wanna have some fun this CHRISTMAS?
Send the ACLU a CHRISTMAS CARD this year.

As they are working so very hard to get rid of the CHRISTMAS part of this holiday, we should all send them a nice, CHRISTIAN, card to brighten up their dark, sad, little world.

Make sure it says "Merry Christmas" on it. Here's the Address,
just don't be rude or crude.

ACLU
125 Broad Street
18th Floor
New York, NY 10004

Two tons of Christmas cards would freeze their operations because they wouldn't know if any were regular mail containing contributions. So spend 39 cents and tell the ACLU to leave Christmas alone. Also tell them that there is no such thing as a "Holiday Tree". . It's a Christmas Tree, even in the fields!!
3 posted on 09/26/2006 4:21:54 PM PDT by Angelas
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To: Jay777
Good news, thanks.




How dare they want to stop the money flow from taxpayers to
Lawyers and the ALCU! /s (if needed)
4 posted on 09/26/2006 4:22:13 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Angelas

I stuck one on the local branch's front door with a push pin this past year. It was the same one I sent to all my friends. I wonder what their reaction to it was.


5 posted on 09/26/2006 4:24:18 PM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: Jay777

I'm not sure that this is a good thing. I don't like legislation written specifically against a lawful organization, no matter how much we don't like that organization.

What's to stop a Dim Congress from writing laws explicitly punishing conservative groups?


6 posted on 09/26/2006 4:25:31 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: stm

:)


7 posted on 09/26/2006 4:26:17 PM PDT by Angelas
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To: Jay777

BTTT!


8 posted on 09/26/2006 4:27:43 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: highball

True, but how many conservative groups advocate rights to distribute child porn and let convicted child molesters have free reign without restrictions? They want to fight for the rights of John Evander Couey but not Jessica Lunsford. Jessica was an adorable, God-loving little girl and Couey is an oxygen thief, plain and simple, that buried that precious little girl alive.

These people are evil, plain and simple. I would not only like to see funding cut off, I would like to see this group totally disbanded.


9 posted on 09/26/2006 4:35:40 PM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: Jay777; MamaDearest; Coleus; NYer; Bahbah; trussell; tutstar; cgk; The Mayor; ALOHA RONNIE; ...

Amen Halleluia! BUMP


10 posted on 09/26/2006 4:50:34 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Jay777

Great news Jay. Would you add me to your ping list, please?


11 posted on 09/26/2006 4:52:33 PM PDT by groanup (Did you know there are actually Freepers who defend the IRS?)
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To: stm
These people are evil, plain and simple. I would not only like to see funding cut off, I would like to see this group totally disbanded.

As soon as they break the law, then I would agree. But writing legislation specifically aimed at odious groups gives the Libs the ability to write legislation aimed at groups they find odious. And you know what those will be.

If the ACLU is violating the law, shut them down on that basis. But politically-minded legislation is a bad idea in principle because it gives the state too much power. Using the weight of our majority against opposing groups is not a conservative tactic, because it only feeds the Fed monster.

12 posted on 09/26/2006 4:59:13 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: highball

What is lawful about the aclu anymore?It was founded by a communist in the 20s.I dont think it has strayed to far from the inception.


13 posted on 09/26/2006 4:59:38 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk
It was founded by a communist in the 20s.I dont think it has strayed to far from the inception.

Being a commie is not against the law.

It's silly, and stupid, and doesn't show much of a thought process, but it is not itself against the law.

Again, we must remember that the weapons we use will also be used by the Dims. We won't control Congress forever.

14 posted on 09/26/2006 5:01:35 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: highball

"The bill, H.R. 2679, would deny legal fees and out-of-pocket expenses to be taken from taxpayers and given put into the pockets of groups like the ACLU when they successfully sue against references to God and religion in public settings..."

Wait a minute! The ACLU would remain free to continue their dastardly deeds; only you and I will no longer pay for it! What is wrong with that?


15 posted on 09/26/2006 5:02:12 PM PDT by olezip
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To: highball

The ACLU would still be able to sue, they just would have to find another way to PAY for it.


16 posted on 09/26/2006 5:05:49 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: olezip

Agreed! Let them pay for their own agitation against Christians.


17 posted on 09/26/2006 5:06:53 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: highball

you are right there is nothing in the constitution banning stupidity.But! there should be.The libs dont have a chance of taking control anymore like they used to.When we finally get rid of the 60s socialist, by old age,and get two more conservatives on the supreme court the libs will be done.


18 posted on 09/26/2006 5:07:41 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Jay777

Good News. Maybe we have a glimmer of hope that this is the beginning of the end for the ACLU.


19 posted on 09/26/2006 5:10:15 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: highball

Read the act please!!

It prohibits taxpayer funding of the aclu's activities. The act does not proscribe the organization, it just shoves them away from the taxpayers' trough.

Why should any advocacy group, liberal, conservative, or commie (aclu) be funded by taxpayers because of rigged judicial shakedowns (winked at by stupid / complicit judges)?


20 posted on 09/26/2006 5:12:50 PM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: Jay777; bd476
BUMP!!
21 posted on 09/26/2006 5:21:21 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: highball
They are defunding the left. These clowns have been financing their attack on America with your tax money for decades and decades. To hell with them. Let them earn their own money. Better yet, make them pay American citizens for allowing them to exist.
22 posted on 09/26/2006 5:23:35 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: highball

"What's to stop a Dim Congress from writing laws explicitly punishing conservative groups?"

When did they ever stop?


23 posted on 09/26/2006 5:24:46 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: Jay777

Well thanks! I don't get many "stand up and cheer" moments, even at FR, even in a good week. But this news does it for me! :)


24 posted on 09/26/2006 5:26:58 PM PDT by Graymatter (Only Pennsylvanian to finish reading the internet.)
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To: Jay777

BTTT!


25 posted on 09/26/2006 5:31:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Jay777

Thanks for posting this. I am really cheering for this bill!


26 posted on 09/26/2006 5:32:01 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; Jay777
Well, good!  !

More empirical evidence there are good things happening in American culture, even though it's hard to see sometimes.

27 posted on 09/26/2006 5:48:29 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: highball
You're tilting at windmills.

Sancho.

28 posted on 09/26/2006 5:50:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

BTTT


29 posted on 09/26/2006 6:15:11 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Jay777
This will be a great opportunity for Liberman to show off his "Independant" stripes. We wan't action Joe...Not silly commercials.
30 posted on 09/26/2006 6:19:19 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Jay777

Thank you Lord! Now, if the Senate only has half that sense.


31 posted on 09/26/2006 6:31:39 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: highball
I'm not sure that this is a good thing. I don't like legislation written specifically against a lawful organization, no matter how much we don't like that organization. What's to stop a Dim Congress from writing laws explicitly punishing conservative groups?

All it would do is withdraw your and my tax dollars from funding an anti-american group. It's a way of defunding the left, who live on our tax dollars.

32 posted on 09/26/2006 6:32:12 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Angelas

Save for the address.


33 posted on 09/26/2006 6:32:16 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: highball

They already have. It's called "hate crimes" legislation.


34 posted on 09/26/2006 6:33:09 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: Jay777

ACLU has been using legal extortion, has supported pedophiles, and has gone groups such as NHS who dare to emphasize good character. They actually got the NHS to cave in at least twice.


35 posted on 09/26/2006 6:35:55 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: highball

What are you smoking? You do realize, don't you, that all this bill does is slow the flow of tax dollars to this organization. The bill isn't "anti" anything. You sound like one of those people who wonders how the government "is going to pay for tax cuts".


36 posted on 09/26/2006 6:40:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jay777

In case someone has not already asked, why does the House have to pass legislation to ensure what is already guaranteed by our Constitution?


37 posted on 09/26/2006 6:48:32 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: highball
Being a commie is not against the law.

Perhaps you are right technically, but look at what aspiring citizens of this land face:

"A person cannot become a citizen who, at any time during a period of ten years just before he or she files an application for naturalization, has been a member of or connected with the Communist Party or a similar party within or outside the United States; or a member of, or connected with any other government, other party or organization that is against all organized government or for world communism, dictatorship in the United States, overthrowing the United States Government by force, injuring or killing officers of the United States, or sabotage."

Link

IMO we need to be more specific and forceful in what it means to be an American. It certainly does not mean proscribing religious expression, which is the apparent aim of the ACLU.

38 posted on 09/26/2006 6:57:27 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: highball
I'm not sure that this is a good thing.

Why should taxpayers fund this or any other similar group?

39 posted on 09/26/2006 7:00:45 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

You mean my money has been going to those commies!!!!/sarc


40 posted on 09/26/2006 7:24:19 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
In case someone has not already asked, why does the House have to pass legislation to ensure what is already guaranteed by our Constitution?

That ancient thing? The Constitution was sufficient back in the olden days but today it serves merely as a guideline; the Constitution is a living, breathing document that evolves with the passing of time to conform with the chic political correctness of the day.

The ACLU is only trying to help.

41 posted on 09/26/2006 7:26:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Well, it's plain on the face of it. If the ACLU is party to lawsuits or legislation prohibiting the free expression of religion they shall be overruled by our courts, and rightly so. They certainly should not enjoy the support of taxpayers by any means. This is a no brainer, except (apparently) for the House. And the Courts.

Really. I had no idea the ACLU was a taxpayer-funded organization. Let's pull the taxpayer plug on NPR while we're at it.
42 posted on 09/26/2006 8:14:28 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

43 posted on 09/26/2006 9:14:52 PM PDT by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: Berosus; ValerieUSA; Coleus; Cincinatus' Wife; DaveLoneRanger; dervish; Convert from ECUSA; ...

two, two, two pings in one:

Worse Than The ACLU
Capital Research Center | September 2006 | Matthew Vadum
Posted on 09/26/2006 6:38:04 PM EDT by vadum
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1708842/posts


44 posted on 09/26/2006 9:20:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 16, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jay777
What did it for me, was the trouble that began when the ACLU-San Diego and a homosexual legal group demanded that the city kick the Scouts off the public park land they’ve occupied since World War II. The the San Diego City Council was strongarmed and announced it would pay the ACLU nearly $1 million to settle out of court and pledged to void the Scouts’ lease and stop defending them in court. The vote against the Scouts was taken behind closed doors and wasn’t announced until a month later. It was done in secret, because gay activists know that “in private, the money and the radical organizations can prevail, but in public they cannot.” Many of the gay and lesbian city council members argued in the days leading to the settlement vote that the city would jeopardize public funds if it defended the Scouts in a case “we’re ultimately going to lose.”

Elected officials succumbed to these scare tactics. But the city could end up paying much more in fines to the U.S. government and religious groups than it saved by appeasing the ACLU.

Therefore, any monies kept from the coffers of the ACLU are funds not perpetrated on the destruction of other moral institutions.

45 posted on 09/26/2006 9:28:35 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping!


46 posted on 09/26/2006 9:33:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jay777; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 480
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

      H R 2679      YEA-AND-NAY      26-Sep-2006      6:10 PM
      QUESTION:  On Passage
      BILL TITLE: Public Expression of Religion Act
  Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 218 6   6
Democratic 26 166   9
Independent   1    
TOTALS 244 173   15

47 posted on 09/26/2006 9:50:11 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: TaxRelief

--The ACLU would still be able to sue, they just would have to find another way to PAY for it.--

George $oro$.


48 posted on 09/26/2006 10:23:04 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jay777

Good news.


49 posted on 09/26/2006 10:27:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic lies/wet dreams posing as news.)
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To: Coleus

Thanks for the run down. Keep it up.


50 posted on 09/26/2006 10:49:43 PM PDT by duckln
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