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ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER; FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD
The Drudge Report ^ | 10-04-06 | Drudge

Posted on 10/04/2006 5:12:16 PM PDT by jrooney

A posting of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has apparently exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser...

ABC RELEASED TRANSCRIPT OF ONE CHAT BETWEEN FOLEY AND A MAN WHO WAS 18 AT THE TIME OF THE INSTANT MESSAGE EXCHANGE.... NETWORK STATED THE MESSAGE WAS TO 'UNDER AGE' TEEN... DEVELOPING...

ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER; FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...


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To: Tatze
There simply is no excuse for Foley's behavior and some people around here really need to stop trying to defend him!

Yes, it is discusting, but the left has been condoning this type of behaviour for years. BJC had an actual physical, intimate relationship with an intern, and the left still defends his actions to this day. Homosexuality doesn't bother them(Barney Frank.)

If this guy is 17 or 18 seems to make all the difference in the world. Why? I don't know. At 45, there doesn't seem to be much difference between 18 and 17. It was wrong by my standards, but it would seem to be extremely hypocrytical by the standards of those that would defend Bill Clinton and homosexuality.

Not condoning Foley's behaviour, simply pointing out the political hypocracy of the left and the MSM.

251 posted on 10/04/2006 5:55:27 PM PDT by NeonKnight (We don't believe you, you need more people.)
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To: idkfa

I got it all on word document


252 posted on 10/04/2006 5:55:50 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Jedidah

Monica was still an intern, however. Apparently these individuals were no longer in the custody or care of the house when these IMs were exchanges. ABC has been CBSed. Story over by Friday....collusion between ABC/CREW/DNC will be the story of the day shortly thereafter. When will Ross issue an on air apology? When will Nancy Pelosi resign for her lies? Is this the Rove October surprise afterall? Or is that the criminal investigation of Rocky, et al, regarding the release of highly classified information to the NYTimes? Or the dropping of the charges against Libby and the indictment of Val and Joe? Media frenzy is beyond belief on this story...these people are salivating and it is quite funny to watch. Ross back-tracked big time on Mr. O's show tonight.....watch for more of that soon.


253 posted on 10/04/2006 5:55:51 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: jrooney

I have no sympathy for Foley, but the timing of this reeks of Dem dirty tricks.


254 posted on 10/04/2006 5:55:52 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: bnelson44

It seems the only thing Drudge is attacking is ABC for providing false info.


255 posted on 10/04/2006 5:56:13 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: bnelson44
Okay, here's the best I can gather from this new stuff. There were IM's between the page---Jordan---and Foley before and after Jordan turned 18. Apparently---according to these other sources--- the IM that ABC "featured" as occurring between Foley and an underage page did not occur until after the page was 18. So I guess there still was creepy stuff between Foley and Jordan before he was 18, but the really creepy IM that ABC chose to publish and "feature" did not occur until after Jordan was 18. So the "lie" people are saying was done by ABC is featuring a particular IM that occurred after Jordan was 18 as occurring while he was still underage. I'm sure that's perfectly clear. :0
256 posted on 10/04/2006 5:56:17 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: bnelson44

Then believe what you want and stop asking people to prove things to you.


257 posted on 10/04/2006 5:56:37 PM PDT by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: PatriotCJC

Has it occurred to anyone that 10% of all congressional pages are homosexual, and that the gay congresscritters seek them out with their own brand of Gaydar?

I ask that question as a logical extension of gay claims.


258 posted on 10/04/2006 5:56:38 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: edsheppa
But surely they'll take it back now they know the kid was 18 and that they were deceived by ABC. I mean, what's the problem with chasing after an 18 year old?

Go away TROLL.

259 posted on 10/04/2006 5:56:59 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Tribune7

Drudge has had a history of attacking the accuser in pedophile cases. I would take anything that Drudge says with a grain of salt.


260 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:04 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: WOSG

LOL!

Foley folded like cheap lawn furniture....




261 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:06 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: mcCabesPub

I can't wait for the conspiracy theories now..rove managed to plant the story of the "underage" page, which the dems jumped on without checking facts, only to find out he was much older and no crime took place, leaving the dems with egg on their face and having to now either "accept" the behavior OR pi*s off the gay crowd..(as an aside, the GOP gets rid of a gay before something truly bad comes out)..

Rove, you magnifient bas*ard..ROFL


262 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:08 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: jrooney; All

This is just one of the guys; this is not the guy from the southeast.

KEEP THAT IN MIND.

However, he is one of the accusers whose postings ended up on ABC News. They forgot to redact one of his names.

He also works for Rep. Istook. I won't go so far as to say he is an operative, but this guy did a terrible thing by releasing this now and may seriously hurt the GOP, and I hope he is fired.

Another freeper knows him and says he is a creep capable of dirty tricks.


263 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:19 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: TXBubba

Does anyone even know the age of consent in Florida? Or DC? I know it's ridiculously low in some states.


264 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:27 PM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: bnelson44

Neither do we have proof the page or ex page was underage, just Brian Ross' word. Besides, as much as I've read about this story, I didn't hear anyone say the Ims were to someone who was close to being 18. What I came away with in reading the initial IMs was that you had 2 guys who were willingly chatting about guy stuff, to put it delicately.


265 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:33 PM PDT by psjones
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To: misterrob

I am not trying to believe anything. I am looking for facts.


266 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:33 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: mcCabesPub
ROVE.....rove????????
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"You magnificent bastard"
267 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:39 PM PDT by DAC22
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To: Connservative
2 questions. 1. Is this the same Jerry Doyle who was on B5 as Michael Garibaldi?

2. If above is true, since when does he have a radio show

1. Yes.

2. For several years now.

268 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:44 PM PDT by Rocko ("Lamont doesn't know anything. You might as well vote for Michael Bolton." -- O'Reilly)
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To: TASMANIANRED

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713462/posts


Good summary to date.


269 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:44 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Suzy Quzy
O'Reilly NEVER knows what's going on!!

"Roger" on that. He is always a day or two late and still doesn't quite get it right.

270 posted on 10/04/2006 5:57:51 PM PDT by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

That was the IM they used to establish his birthday as Feb 23.


271 posted on 10/04/2006 5:58:03 PM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: jrooney

I said it for 3 days now, JUST ANOTHER ONE LIKE CBS/RATHER BOMB! WOOHOO!


272 posted on 10/04/2006 5:58:10 PM PDT by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: Connservative
1. Is this the same Jerry Doyle who was on B5 as Michael Garibaldi?

Don't have a clue.

2. If above is true, since when does he have a radio show

Again, clueless. I have heard ad's for his radio show for months but, as stated, just started playing here this week.

273 posted on 10/04/2006 5:58:21 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: Vision Thing
Instead of "18th", shouldn't it be "18th" with the superscript? We need to get Dan Rather in here to tell us which one of these is right.

Vision Thing - you apparently have a Humor Thing too.

274 posted on 10/04/2006 5:58:25 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ
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To: jrooney
Schadenfreude!!!!
275 posted on 10/04/2006 5:58:52 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Would you like to join the OFFICIAL Oakland Raiders ping list? Sure you would, send me freepmail.)
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To: The_Reader_David
As an aside, I am not looking for a loophole, but when was the law go into effect about "cybersex"? Because as far as I have seen, regardless of how old this kid is, or was, there are no IM's from after 2003? If the law was signed into law after that, doesn't that shield him?
276 posted on 10/04/2006 5:58:57 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: italianquaker
nah negron is a better candidate

Of that I have no doubt, but does he have a chance. I'd guess that he doesn't unless his name appears on the ballot, preferably instead of Foley's. Will that happen?

277 posted on 10/04/2006 5:58:58 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Palladin
But I am still confused. Give me dates. I don't see where he was over 18 when some of the IMs were sent. If the IMs occurred when he was under 18, then Foley is guilty.
278 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:00 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

Have you read the blog and looked at the evidence he links to/posts?

Sure, I suppose he could falsify stuff, but that'd be pretty stupid.


279 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:01 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: secret garden

In DC it is 16. I'm not sure what it is in Florida, but there's also federal laws that apply to Internet communications that set the age for some things at 18.


280 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:07 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Enchante

There will be lots of backpedaling by the Dems and the media now.

Here are Jordan's stats from floppingaces.net:

An excellent job done by Wild Bill at Passionate America in discovering who the IM’s were sent to, one Jordon Edmund who appears to have been 18 at the time of the IM’s, here is his bio on MySpace:

2003 to Present

University Of California-Berkeley
Berkeley, CALIFORNIA
Graduated: N/A
Degree: In Progress
Major: Political Science
Minor: Public Policy
Clubs: Cal Hawaii Club - Former Vice President, Student Homecoming Team - Student Ambassador Coordinator(’04) Alumni Director(’06), Cal Ski and Snowboard Club
Greek: Phi Gamma Delta

2002 to 2003

Francis W. Parker School
San Diego,California
Graduated: 2003
Student status: Alumni
Degree: High School Diploma

Congrats to the Democrats, they outed cybersex between two consenting adults!

And one other thing, Wild Bill found this out by doing some detective work when ABC accidently left the IM screenname of Jordon. Did ABC News and Brian Ross do the same kind of investigating? You bet your ass they did, that is their job.

The question is, did they know that Jordon was an adult at the time of the IM’s and then print a lie that it was with a minor?

END UPDATE


281 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:24 PM PDT by Palladin (Log Cabin Republicans have wooden heads.)
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To: stillbjorn
Anyone else think that these IM's are fake? Its a lot easier to fake IM logs than it is to fake Air National Guard documents from the '70s...

I DO, SAID IT FOR 3 DAYS NOW!

282 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:27 PM PDT by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Yes, I have. Cite where the proof is. I don't see it. Sorry


283 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:31 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: skeeter; All

This is JUST ONE ACCUSER. Please keep this in mind. It does not sink the story.


284 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:34 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: K4Harty

Comments section, post #6
http://polipundit.com/wp-comments-popup.php?p=15288&c=1#comments

FYI, you may have heard this, but Selena Zito with the Pittsburgh Tribune Review (I’m pretty sure that’s right) called in on a local (Birmingham,Alabama) talk radio program this morning. She said a major story might break today that a high ranking Democrat knew about the Foley matter and she hinted there was coordination with ABC, probably through George Stephanopoulos to release the story. (Not taking away from what a disgusting creep Foley is, but considering the reaction by the Dems to the story, this would look pretty bad for them IMO). Zito said she had a few more facts to verify, she does not want to report anything until she’s absolutely certain.

She also said other “outings” would most likely occur before the election and would further hurt the Republicans although she said Democrats would probably be affected as well.

I’m paraphrasing what she said, this is basically the gist of it. When the talk radio host asked when this might come out, she said he would be her second phone call.


285 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:38 PM PDT by Republican Red ("There’s God, then there’s the president and then there’s my father.”- 6 yr old Jack Roberts)
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To: jrooney

OF COURSE it was a bogus story! Of course there were lies and misrepresentations by ABC, the DIMS, and the Driveby Media in general.....did you honestly expect anything sincere and actually truthful out of these POS's?


286 posted on 10/04/2006 5:59:57 PM PDT by GLH3IL (Truth: The remedy for liberalism.)
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To: blondee123

Wow. Somebody screwed up, BIG TIME! Breaking and Breaking FAST!


287 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:08 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: bnelson44
I know who he is. Prove to me he was older than 18.

It is now known that he is currently at/over 21, so, unless they're using the "new math" that puts him at 18 in 2003.

288 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:11 PM PDT by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: bnelson44

Geez, can you stop being a broken record for even two seconds?


289 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:22 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: psjones

Ross's word and Foley's actions after the revolation. And it looks from the IMs and the history we have of the page, he was under 18.


290 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:22 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

See my post at #281.


291 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:27 PM PDT by Palladin (Log Cabin Republicans have wooden heads.)
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To: bnelson44
Drudge has had a history of attacking the accuser in pedophile cases.

Starting with the pedophile in Chief.

292 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:32 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TASMANIANRED

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713755/posts


Check it out...

The one that was 18 also wasn't a page anymore when the incident happened.


293 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:41 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: jrooney
The DailyKosNazis are totally ignoring this important development. The MSM is still pretending they are close to a kill...


294 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: jrooney

Let's be clear - I do NOT condone what Mark Foley has done. But does this mean that the Democrats think that Foley's sexual behavior with an adult is illegal?

If so, does this mean that the Democrats believe that Clinton's behavior with an adult was illegal?

If not, does this mean that Democrats believe that Foley's behavior with an adult male is illegal only because he is gay?

Either way, the Democrats are hoist by their own petard - and once again, the main-stream media has manufactured information to suite it's agenda.

But no matter. I am convinced that we do need to investigate Foley to the fullest, just to find out if he IS guilty of any crimes. And we MUST also investigate EVERYONE, Democrat, Republican, or otherwise - in both houses of Congress - for the same. All emails, all correspondence, all phone conversations. EVERYTHING on EVERYBODY.

It's time to clean house of paid public perverts - and we have Foley to thank. I personally am glad Foley was "outed" for his digusting behavior on my dime - but I wonder; will the Democrats will be as happy with these revelations once they find their own in the mix?


295 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:46 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: Raycpa

Yes


296 posted on 10/04/2006 6:00:51 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: NinoFan

Clinton had phone sex in the oval ofice numerous times with Monica and HE DIDN'T resign.


297 posted on 10/04/2006 6:01:24 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: wouldntbprudent; donnalee

FReeper donnalee suggested that Foley was being very careful about these contacts' ages to avoid the "under-18" problem. If the pre-18 IM contacts were not released by ABC, it's possible that they aren't as juicy as the ones they did release. Maybe they were just "overly friendly". They didn't suit ABC's agenda, so they didn't bother with them.


298 posted on 10/04/2006 6:01:32 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: jrooney
I thought it was known already that messages took place between two boys aged 16 and 17, but some of them took place after one boy's 18th birthday. How is this a new development?
299 posted on 10/04/2006 6:02:27 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: bnelson44
At least one of the posters revealed through the screw up at ABC has been postively identified according to internet reports, hence the Drudge headline. That person is now 21 years old and the posts were from 2003, QED, he was 18 at the time. Oh, and legal age for 'this sort of thing' is apparently 16 for all of the jurisdictions involved.

Also, just to point up the hypocrisy of the folks pushing this "scandal," the Dhimmicrats have their own "facts in evidence" in Gary Studds, who not only sent messages to a (adult ex page, which is all Foley apparently did) Studds actually buggered the fellow, who was still a page at the time (which is not true of any of the folks Foley sent messages to).
300 posted on 10/04/2006 6:02:45 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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