Skip to comments.Army’s Fashion Fatigue
Posted on 10/05/2006 12:20:43 PM PDT by 68skylark
West Point, N.Y. IT would be shallow to say that I fell in love with the soldier I married because of his uniform, but it would also be partly true. Its Cupids oldest trick: dress a man for war and love walks in.
Every girl whos had her head turned by a uniform has her favorite, and for me there is nothing quite like the command of camouflage. A fitted, heavily starched long jacket and bloused trousers in a dark green, black and brown woodland pattern over polished black boots, the Battle Dress Uniform, to me, is the American soldier.
But the B.D.U. is being phased out. Soldiers have been ordered to purchase two sets of the newer Army Combat Uniforms by next May, and soon, like the brown leather boots of the early cold war, the Vietnam-era pickle suit and the chocolate chip Desert Storm camo, the B.D.U. will be history. And I will miss it.
My husband and I are, in the eyes of many, an oddly matched Mr. and Mrs., an Army intelligence officer and a pop-culture-obsessed writer. To paraphrase an old recruiting slogan, ours is not just a marriage, its an adventure, a two-person cultural exchange program. Because of him, I can identify a Blackhawk, Apache or Chinook helicopter by the sound of the blades slicing the air overhead. Because of me, he exfoliates.
In the beginning, I favored the B.D.U. because it acutely highlighted the differences between us as individuals, but over time, it has also come to underscore the contrast in our roles.
Spouses dont experience firsthand the bombs-and-bullets Army we see only the ceremonial ribbons-and-medals Army, the workaday pack-and-move-every-few-years Army and my husbands B.D.U.s were my connection to the viscera of soldierdom. They were honest....
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
"there is a lot of good natured ribbing with these guys including the jokes regarding Marines are all Braun and no Brains....they all take it in stride.....When I talk to my son about this he has a lot of respect for the other branches because they are all serving this country..."
So true, I have been a Marine for the last 22 years and have made many jokes at the expense of our sister services, but I and 99% of all Marines have nothing but the utmost respect for soldiers, sailors, and airmen. We are on the same team. My oldest son is an Army artillery man in Iraq, and I am very proud that he had the balls to put on the uniform, whould I have preffered that he was a Marine? Sure, but in the end it was his choice and I am just as proud of him.
Just make sure ya get the "Woodland" pattern.....;]
"On-line bill pay. "
Hooy, that would just really blow. Cash transactions were king. MPC to hard green, hard green to dong, dong to MPC.
The circle of life.
Since when does the Navy give a hoot about visibility? Those blue dungarees don't exactly show up real well at night when you're floating in the middle of the South Pacific watching your ship disappear over the horizon. If man-overboard visibility was the main criteria, the Navy would make all the uniforms International Orange.
Besides, real squids stay safely below decks when the ship is underway...
Yeah, we had to go to direct deposit in Oct of 1987, my last "hard check" was 15 Sept 1987.
re post 12
The Imperial Chicks (imperialchicks.com) website has a hilarious beefcake, er, banthacake calendar of Imperial stormtroopers in various states of undress. (Strictly PG, of course.)
I believe you can see it on the site's What's New page...or the Troopers & Guards page. I thought the Imperial Biker Scout in camo shorts was nice. :-)
Even the bad guys can look good, if given the right material.
Second for both comments.
I just retired, wonder if they need any creaky spooks?
Yeah.... My grandkid had a couple little toy "weapons" like that. Complete with the red cap and blanks!) 8<)
Now, you want to talk real weapons ...
By the way, I have to ask Whydoesatexasgirllikehermarinewithnouniformonatall?
Did you take that picture at the Denver Fed Center. It looks familiar.
LOL! Now, that's hilarious.
God bless your son and keep him safe....
I personally believe Marines in most any uniform look good. My hubby looks quite hot in his blues, however, his bdu's are my favorites.
Fort Dix NJ.....he's now in Iraq...
Okay, diet coke all over the screen. That's a good one, although I will say, when I call Terminix, I am generally very happy to see him when he gets here. My oldest son wants to be an entomologist and I just want to squash any bug I see in or near my home. He wants to pick it up, play with it and study it. I thought it was cute when he was 3, now he's 14 and really into it.
Nice old photo!
Have you ever noticed that in some of the really old West Point group photos,
circa the Civil War/War Between the States, some of the cadets are holding hands?
So what's up with the `ring-knockers'?
My husband in his uniform is the sexiest man ever. I could care less if it's the ACU or the BDU. Actually, I prefer the dress blues if given a choice. My favorite military uniform is the Marine dress blues, however I wouldn't want my husband in them! :)
It's just their culture. I ignore it.
I grew up as a Navy brat. I remember all the Jarheads in Subic and Yokosuka. I tended to look at them, even as a dependent, with a slight air of...not contempt, but...we used to call other kids Jarheads as an insult. When they stood watch at the head of the gangways, stock still at attention, we used to go up and hassle them. Poked them in the stomach. Tried to make them move. But they wouldn't. We would throw firecrackers near them to see them jump. (As a dumbass kid...I did not know exactly the effect that might have on some of them who might not be that far out of a war zone...)
When I joined the Navy myself, I still maintained a bit of that...there has ALWAYS been the "Squid versus Jarhead" thing going on.
I remember being on the flight deck once, and watching a bunch of Marines in full combat gear running across the flight deck into the waiting chopper. They must have been taking part in a timed exercise, because they were running their asses off, a couple of them had their pots kind of going down over their eyes because they didn't seem to have them secured correctly while they ran like hell.
I watched this with some detached interest. As I looked to my left, I noticed there was a Marine standing in the catwalk with a camera, taking a picture of the guys running. He had a vaguely goofy look, and as our eyes met, he said "Uhh...uhh...uhh...Marines..." as he pointed at them.
I rolled my eyes and thought to myself..."Typical brainless Jarhead..." For some reason, that image stuck with me for years, to this day.
However, now, with a few more years behind me, and a lot more in my head (relatively speaking) I view this vision I had much differently.
Since then, I have become a military history buff, and have read extensively on military campaigns, mostly from WWII onwards.
I read about how the Marines fought on Guadalcanal, hand on throat, with a hand on their own throat, against a vicious, tenacious, resourceful and intelligent enemy who could match our troops plane for plane, ship for ship and man for man.
I read about Peleliu, Tarawa, and the unbelievable bloody, bloody caranage of Iwo Jima.
I read about the retreat from the Chosin Reservoir, how the Marines saved the day, against greater than 10 to 1 odds in unbelievable, freezing weather with inadequate equipment and supplies. How they made shelters out of the frozen bodies of their foes. How, after the most horrible privations, fought their way out of a trap on all sides, and marched their way into the stunned presence of their fellow Americans in step, to cadence, heads held up. Just unbelievable. Somehow, many Americans just do not know about this.
How in Vietnam, the Marines punished the enemy, repeatedly, over and over again, only to hear how the war was lost. The vicious battle in Hue, and the astounding siege at Khe Sanh. (with a little bit of help from the USAF...:)
Now, when I think of those young men, long ago on the flight deck of the USS JFK, running out to that helicopter, I don't think of brawny, doofus Jarheads. I think of young men who provide the spine of America. They have certainly provided the blood. Any time I see someone or talk to someone who is in, or has been in the US Marines, I shake their hand (as I do with all Vets and Military personnel) and say thanks. But for Marines, there is a little more in that handshake.
I believe it was Hemingway who said it best: "I would rather have a good Marine, even a ruined one, than anything in the world when there are chips down."
Semper Fi to all you Marines out there from a Squid.
I don't have much fruit salad on mine. But when I do I'll keep your advice in mind!
I'm actually looking forward to wearing the dress blues more in the future, as the dress greens get phased out.
That's true, but you don't want to make it worse. I always thought blue and the darker navy blue were specified for those colors because blue dyes are the cheapest and most permanent dye color available, or were back when that color was first used.
You might be oldest, but I had over 8 years time in grade as a 1LT, and not nearly enough break in service to account for that. It had to do with the differences between promotions for those on extended active duty and people in the reserve and guard. I put on the silver bar in June of '75, put on the rail road tracks in '84, but back dated to early '83. I was a reservist and guardsman from Dec '75 on, with a break in active reserve from mid '78 to November of '82.
This thread is useless without pictures!
1st Sgt. Jamie Nakano, from the 10th Mountain Division, blends in with the mountainous terrain of Nuristan Province, Afghanistan, during a patrol. This photo appeared on www.army.mil.
by Spc. Eric Jungels
October 4, 2006
You are just terrible....
"We" know a guy's favorite uniform is undress mess.
(That is, of course, when you're wearing the undress and he's making the mess.)
please note how you basically killed the thread with that last posting ... :)
LOL...ah well...there is ALWAYS too much of a good thing...:)
Pick on the Airforce.
Heh ... bicycles for PT.
It's all in good fun though, we're the brain dead grunts that charge machine guns.
"This one was for flying door gunner in the Space Shuttle..."
"And this one was for spotting hosemonsters."
Never again. I still hold a grudge against the zoomies for not letting us eat in their chow hall at Talil air base in 2003 (among other things), but when I was at FOB Bernstein in 2005 our EOD guys were USAF. They were outstanding at their jobs and were a real asset to our mission.
From that point on I decided that I don't rag on anybody else who is running missions far from home.