Genetic evidence for punctuated equilibrium

The Scientist ^ | 06 October 2006 | Melissa Lee Phillips

[SoldierDad]

What P.K. sent required a cut and paste (not a direct link), and the cut and paste didn't work for me. Thanks for the new link. I'll check it out when time permits.

[caffe]

Where did we come from?

[Thatcherite]

I'm a total young earth creationist and proud of it.

So in reality you disagree with the brilliant ID scientists about almost everything. Glad that's clear now.

[stultorum]

"If there is "empirical evidence" to support the contention of ToE that one animal species "evolved" into a completely different animal species, then please, by all means, provide the "empirical evidence".

There ain't any.

"Show me this has happened between two different species."

Never happened. It's all speculation.

[stultorum]

"Where did we come from?"

Evolutionists say we came from monkeys.

But there are no witnesses who have seen a monkey turn into a human, or a bird evolve into a dinosaur or a fish evolve into a moneky and then into a man.

There are no transitional fossils to prove the above.

[Coyoteman]

Evolutionists say we came from monkeys.

Humans and modern apes all evolved from a common ancestor many years ago. Monkeys split off well before that human/ape common ancestor.

There are no transitional fossils to prove the above.

1) Scientists don't deal in "proof" but in evidence. The evidence for the theory of evolution is overwhelming. Its only those who have closed their minds because of a narrow interpretation of scripture who refuse to see the evidence that is all around them.

2) No transitionals? Ha! This is a transitional. Note its position in the chart which follows (hint--in the upper center):

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Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33

Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

[stultorum]

"Humans and modern apes all evolved from a common ancestor many years ago.

But I've read on these threads that humans evolved from monkeys/apes. But now you're saying that humans did not evolve from apes, but from a common ancestor other than apes.

So, who/what is this common ancestor humans evolved from?

[Coyoteman]

So, who/what is this common ancestor humans evolved from?

Here is one idea:

Source

[stultorum]

Is that a flying saucer? LOL!

Maybe we came from space. Is that called spandermia, or some such?

[EternalVigilance]

Monkeys split off well before that human/ape common ancestor.

I guess that makes you "a monkey's uncle"!

[Coyoteman]

Is that a flying saucer? LOL!

Maybe we came from space. Is that called spandermia, or some such?

You asked:

So, who/what is this common ancestor humans evolved from?

I provided an answer. Did you fail to understand it, even though I provided it in graphic form?

[Texas Songwriter]

What science do you refer too?

[Coyoteman]

Monkeys split off well before that human/ape common ancestor.

See post #388.

[Texas Songwriter]

There is nothing in conservatism that opposes evolution. There is nothing in conservatism that opposes the idea that things were created.

Who is this intelligence which did the "creating" to which you refer?

[stultorum]

Gorilla, chimpazee and humans evolved from orangatang?

And, Gorilla, chimpazee, humans and orangatang evolved from gibbons?

I don't know if I read this right.

[EternalVigilance]

See post #388.

Even a monkey can draw lines.

[EternalVigilance]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..."

- Thomas Jefferson

[stultorum]

The picture reminds me of similarity with a little book I read neons ago - "How to Lie with Statistics."

It still looks like a UFO to me.

[EternalVigilance]

New tagline...

[stultorum]

I like your new tagline. I like it a lot.

How do you like mine?