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Confederate Flag Clothing Causes Controversy
WSBTV.com ^ | 10-6-2006 | WSBTV

Posted on 10/10/2006 5:08:28 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

The principal at a Fayette County middle school has banned all clothing with the confederate flag emblem...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: cbf; confederate; crossofsaintandrew; dixie; education; saintandrewscross; schools; segregation; southernheritage
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
the census folks, THEMSELVES, say that their estimate of 12-14 MILLION illegals are just that = an ESTIMATE!

it's nothing more complicated than that.

sadly, for the "nativists" & "unionists", Azatlan is anything BUT a fantasy.

prepare to have a Hispanic,solidly Roman Catholic, Spanish-speaking, nation to the west/southwest, within a generation (unless of course, you think a CIVIL WAR that would NEEDLESSLY slaughter MILLIONS of people is a good idea. btw, one of the former (now permanently BANNED!) members of the "DAMNyankee coven oif fools, lunatics, south-HATERS, bigots & at least ONE outright RACIST" said he would HAPPILY kill "every damned immigrant in the west. every damn one!" to keep the states out there IN the union.)

free dixie,sw

351 posted on 10/17/2006 9:20:34 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
there are NO "implied restrictions" on the STATES in the Constitution. only restrictions on the FEDERAL govt.

Sure there are. Read the 10th Amendment. The powers "prohibited by it to the States" part of the 10th Amendment.

352 posted on 10/17/2006 9:46:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
the census folks, THEMSELVES, say that their estimate of 12-14 MILLION illegals are just that = an ESTIMATE!

So, are census bureau estimates valuable or worthless? It's hard to keep track with you. It appears that the census is worthless when it contradicts you, but valuable when it confirms you. That seems awfully convenient.

353 posted on 10/17/2006 9:51:00 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: rustbucket
You have a short term memory problem, don't you? We just went over this uptread. Any action to expel a state violates Article V because that act simultaneously deprives the state of representation and thus violates the Constitution.

Yes and whenever someone points out that Article I forbids states from entering into treaties or confederations with other states without Congressional approval you all scratch your heads and say, "Golly gee whiz, if a state secedes it isn't bound by the Constitution anymore." Well, if a state is expelled then they aren't in the Union anymore, not bound by the Constitution, and not protected by it. You all are constantly quoting the 10th Amendment saying that the right to unilaterally secede is granted to the states because it is not denied by the Constitution. Well, show me where the Constitution says the states cannot join together and expel a state if they choose to do so.

354 posted on 10/17/2006 9:53:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
those are NOT "implied restrictions". rather they are POSITIVE restrictions on the central government, which the states INTENDED!

certain POWERS were specifically CEDED to the central government by the STATES (which can be "taken back" by the states, too!!)and it was INTENDED that the federal government could/WOULD do NOTHING MORE than that limited amount of things.

NOTE: i suspect there would have been a LOT less POWERS ceded, had the states recognized how powerful, INTRUSIVE & "NOSEY" the fed would become!

free dixie,sw

355 posted on 10/17/2006 9:54:11 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
pardon me, but you are either clueLESS or as evasive as N-S.

care for a "do over" before you become yet another laughingstock on FR???

free dixie,sw

356 posted on 10/17/2006 9:55:32 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
I would like to take a moment and welcome Mr./Ms. Bubba Ho-Tep to the ranks of the Union supporters. Anyone who can come up with a screen name as cool as that AND which annoys stand watie is all right with me.

Don't let stand get to you. Somewhere in Dixie his village is wondering where he's gotten to.

357 posted on 10/17/2006 9:56:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
certain POWERS were specifically CEDED to the central government by the STATES (which can be "taken back" by the states, too!!)and it was INTENDED that the federal government could/WOULD do NOTHING MORE than that limited amount of things

And which one of those POWERS specifically authorizes the federal government to have branch of the military called a U.S. Air Force?

358 posted on 10/17/2006 9:58:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
care for a "do over" before you become yet another laughingstock on FR???

Nah. You appear to have laughingstock covered.

359 posted on 10/17/2006 10:04:18 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Non-Sequitur
show me where the Constitution says the states cannot join together and expel a state if they choose to do so.

Article V. Psst.... We've been here before.

360 posted on 10/17/2006 10:23:31 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
Article V. Psst.... We've been here before

Yeah, I know. Article I and Aricle IV, remember? You dismiss my implied powers and now you want respect for the implied powers of your's? Please.

361 posted on 10/17/2006 10:31:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Article V is not an implied power. Secession is a reserved power since it was not prohibited by the Constitution.


362 posted on 10/17/2006 11:08:07 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
Article V is not an implied power. Secession is a reserved power since it was not prohibited by the Constitution.

Neither Article V, nor any other article, says a state cannot be expelled by the other states. Try this, if it makes it easier for you. Don't think of it as one state being expelled by the other states. Think of it as every other state seceding from that one.

363 posted on 10/17/2006 11:28:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Neither Article V, nor any other article, says a state cannot be expelled by the other states.

Bwahahahahahaha! What a galoot! The Constitution EXPRESSLY ['that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate'] prohibits a state from being kicked out.

364 posted on 10/17/2006 12:30:05 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: 4CJ
What a galoot! The Constitution EXPRESSLY ['that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate'] prohibits a state from being kicked out.

OK then, since you can't come up with anything in the Constitution that EXPRESSLY prohibits a state from being expelled why not try and wrap your 9 volt brain around what I suggested to your buddy? Don't think of it as one state being expelled, think of it as 49 states seceding from the 50th. Is that OK?

Think hard now. But don't hurt yourself.

365 posted on 10/17/2006 12:38:10 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: rustbucket
There was a CSA regiment raised in Cleveland Tennessee, the 36th Tennessee, known as the squirrel brigade because of the prevalence of squirrel rifles among the arms. Unfortunately for the local Confederates, the regiment was reflective of the politics of the area and most of the men were Unionists who deserted in mass to the Yankees when marched up to Cumberland Gap. I had a great great grandfather in that regiment for a while, and when he got back home he named his wartime son BROWNLOW- the name of the Tennessee firebrand Unionist and later Reconstruction Republican governor. Not a name that a good Confederate soldier would give his baby. :)
366 posted on 10/17/2006 1:16:42 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

You can kiss my .308.


367 posted on 10/17/2006 1:18:15 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Non-Sequitur
OK then, since you can't come up with anything in the Constitution that EXPRESSLY prohibits a state from being expelled ...

Already have. Sorry about you reading comphrension problem.

... why not try and wrap your 9 volt brain around what I suggested to your buddy? Don't think of it as one state being expelled, think of it as 49 states seceding from the 50th. Is that OK?

Then secede, form a NEW union (as did the CSA). But per Lincoln's insane logic, the remaining state can nuke those seceding to oblivion to "maintain the union".

P.S. I typed real slow for you, and made sure I used little words. ;o)

368 posted on 10/17/2006 2:17:55 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Non-Sequitur
somewhere you village is glad their particular idiot is MISSING & lost in the wilds of KS.

i will say something GOOD about "Bubba". he's VASTLY more intelligent than the rest of the unionists and MUCH smarter than the members of the "DAMNyankee coven"!

btw, N-S are you getting LONELY without your coven of LUNATICS, who are NOW over on DU, since they got BANNED for being CREEPS, bigots & at least ONE outright racist?????

FR is MUCH more civil without them!

free dixie,sw

369 posted on 10/17/2006 2:23:28 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
the power to "raise military forces for the common defense".

the Constitution does NOT enumerate the different sorts of forces that might be "raised". the FOUNDERS were SMART, but their crystal balls were broken when the Constitution was written, as they didn't foresee flying, space travel, lasers, computers, etc.

free dixie,sw

370 posted on 10/17/2006 2:26:09 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: 4CJ
Already have. Sorry about you reading comphrension problem.

I don't think I'm the one with the comprehension problem, not with all the corrections I've had to do on your posts over the years.

Then secede, form a NEW union (as did the CSA).

Leaving the remaining state with all the debt and obligations, appropriating all the property of the old Union they care to walk away with, and generally ignoring any concerns that the remaining state may have. Also as the csa did. Given all that, the remaining state might have preferred to be expelled instead.

But per Lincoln's insane logic, the remaining state can nuke those seceding to oblivion to "maintain the union".

Only if the 49 leaving states shoot things up on their way out the door, like the csa did. But even if they did then I have a sneaking suspicion that regardless of what state happens to be the remaining one, those leaving would actually be able to win their rebellion. Unlike the csa.

371 posted on 10/17/2006 2:31:21 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
the power to "raise military forces for the common defense".

I don't see where that phrase is found in the Constitution. Is that an implied power? I see where Congress can fund an an army and a navy, but not an air force. Must be illegal then, since only explicit powers are allowed in your world.

372 posted on 10/17/2006 2:33:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
nope. not me. otoh, if you "get in bed" with "the unionists" and/or (particularly) the "DAMNyankee coven", YOU will become a "target of opportunity" for COMMON RIDICULE!

face it, most of what you evidently "know" about the WBTS & the 19th century is based on KNOWING lies, out of the REVISIONIST/socialist/LEFTIST lunatic fringe of academia. had you propounded ANY of what you've said so far "on forum" on ANY campus 4 decades ago (when i was a student), you would have been laughed off the campus & branded as a FOOL. face it "Bubba" what you've been spoon-fed in school is divided about equally into two groups: KNOWING LIES & SELF-righteous, brainLESS bilge (dreamed up by the left to FOOL the IGNORANT!).

go do some real research on the WBTS & we'll talk again.

free dixie,sw

373 posted on 10/17/2006 2:33:42 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
oddly enough, i think you'll find that the COAST GUARD isn't mentioned by name either. nobody but a FOOL or a DUNCE would question that armed force's existence either. (the USCG was in existence when the Constitution was written.)

care to "rethink" this SILLY argument of yours, too??? (it's NOT the FIRST DUMB argument you've tried to sell on FR, but it's close to being the LEAST believable.)

free dixie,sw

374 posted on 10/17/2006 2:37:35 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I have a copy of an 1860 letter from an ancient Tennessee ancestor of mine. The letter mentions Brownlow but didn't give an opinion of him. I don't know the politics of this ancestor, but his children and relatives all fought for the Confederates. He was a county official and never had a slave that I know of.


375 posted on 10/17/2006 2:41:58 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: stand watie
had you propounded ANY of what you've said so far "on forum" on ANY campus 4 decades ago blah blah blah

I haven't propounded anything. All I've done is to question what you propound, which seems wildly inconsistent and lacking in support. The fact that you're now resorting to ad hominem attacks rather than trying to support your argument can be seen as evidence that you realize your position is ultimately unsupportable.

And that's something that I DID learn in college.

376 posted on 10/17/2006 2:47:10 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: 4CJ
actually, "Mr Minister" is plenty SMART (unlike the other members of the "unionist contingent" on FR). he just is a PROPAGANDIST for the REVISIONIST/SOCIALIST northeastern elites.(the rest of the "DY coven" are SO DUMB that they don't know that he IS a propagandist. they swallow his bilge, nonsense, lies & evasions & think that it's ambrosia.)

understand that & you can deal with him. at least he's NOT either an IDIOT, a BIGOT and/or a RACIST, as several of the "DAMNyankee coven" members ARE!

free dixie,sw

377 posted on 10/17/2006 2:53:04 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
oddly enough, i think you'll find that the COAST GUARD isn't mentioned by name either. nobody but a FOOL or a DUNCE would question that armed force's existence either. (the USCG was in existence when the Constitution was written.)

According to the Coast Guard website, the earliest antecedent of the USCG, the Lighthouse Service, was founded in 1789. The Revenue Cutter Service was authorized by congress in 1790, under the Treasury Department. The name "Coast Guard" didn't come into existence until 1915., when the Revenue Cutter Service and the Life-Saving Service were combined. Do you have evidence that it existed prior to 1787?

378 posted on 10/17/2006 2:59:39 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
oddly enough, i think you'll find that the COAST GUARD isn't mentioned by name either.

Even more oddly you will find that the Coast Guard is not considered a branch of the military. It is not part of the Department of Defense and not under control of the military except in time of war. The Constitutional justification of the Coast Guard can be found in Article I, Section 8, Clause 1.

379 posted on 10/17/2006 6:32:53 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: rustbucket
What part of Tennessee was your relative from? Brownlow was an old Whig as well as a Unionist and Whigs were often not a big hit in the western 2/3s of the state.

But in the East, he was very popular figure and a high profile personality.

380 posted on 10/18/2006 3:39:42 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

They lived in roughly the center part of the state, which was not particularly Brownlow country. My ancestor was almost 80 when the war started. Too old to fight in it.

His father had fought for the Americans at King's Mountain. According to his father's obituary, the father had accompanied Daniel Boone on some of his exploration trips though I've never been able to verify that. If I look back far enough in my family tree, I'll probably find Natty Bumppo.


381 posted on 10/18/2006 7:09:10 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: DownInFlames
You can kiss my .308.

cue banjo music...

382 posted on 10/18/2006 7:18:31 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
evidence. NOPE. (neither do i have time to go look for any.)

otoh, do you have evidence that the CG was NOT in service (under one of it's SEVERAL names), inasmuch as the USCG itself CLAIMS service in the AMERICAN REVOLUTION????

one wonders what your claim to fame here on FR will be???? (perhaps posting apologist nonsense & meaningless bilge for the unionist propaganda machine????)

so far i have seen anything from you that required either KNOWLEGE and/or THOUGHT.

free dixie,sw

383 posted on 10/18/2006 7:29:52 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I could take you more seriously if you actually knew what you were talking about. The flag in question is not the Confederate States of America Flag - it is the Confederate Battle Flag. I for one will always hold it in high regard out of respect for the brave men who fought under it for what they believed in. I also hold the flags of many other military groups in high regard for the same reason. For example the Flag of the French Foreign Legion - most of those men fought for their brothers - not for France which is ok with me. There is nothing more honorable than fighting for your brothers in arms. It is what holds the US Marine Corps together, for one.


384 posted on 10/18/2006 7:37:57 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Polybius

Right on!!! You nailed it - Thanks.


385 posted on 10/18/2006 7:40:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Non-Sequitur
PLEASE run right down to the nearest USCG base & shout "you aren't REAL armed forces personnel".

i suspect you'll get a FAT LIP.(fwiw, most FReepers are well aware of the BRAVE & HONORABLE service in wartime & peacetime of the "coasties", who "guarded" every coast from NY to SIAGON & BEYOND!)

it's like your famous & DUMB comment that the over 100,000 FREE Blacks, who fought for dixie LIBERTY,were NOT real soldiers/sailors/marines, because ALL of them were not front-line infantry troops. (btw,did you get around to telling all the mechanics, corpsmen, truck drivers, artillerymen, etc, in the current military that they were NOT "real" soldiers/sailors/marines????)

MOST FReepers are laughing AT your DUMB opinions, EVASIONS, half-truths, LIES & PHONEY-BALONEY comments in support of "the FILTH that flowed down from the north" (AND at the fact that you seem to believe that ANYBODY on FR believes your DAMNyankee/REVISIONIST/south-HATING APOLOGIST NONSENSE any more.)

free dixie,sw

386 posted on 10/18/2006 7:42:28 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: mac_truck
you really do show your ARROGANT,SILLY, ignorant, STUPIDITY & BIGOTRY at times, "mac".

fwiw, the southerners here are PLEASED, as it shows all the other FReepers what a bunch of brain-DEAD, arrogant, ignorant, CREEPS the DAMNyankee HATERS of the "coven" demonstrably are!

PLEASE keep posting your hate-FILLED, BIGOTRY & NONSENSE!

free dixie,sw

387 posted on 10/18/2006 7:45:40 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: mad_as_he$$
WELL SAID!

as far as i can see,the only problem with your post is that you seem to believe that the HATE-filled, DUMB comments of the "DAMNyankee coven of lunatics,dunces, REVISIONISTS, fools & at least ONE racist" are a result of being half-educated or IGNORANT.

RATHER the problem of the "coven's members-in-goodstanding" is that they are south-HATERS & BIGOTS.

free dixie,sw

388 posted on 10/18/2006 7:49:53 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

I call them as I see em Stand, and your side has more than it's share of ignoramuses and backwards thinking cowards.


389 posted on 10/18/2006 7:52:53 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck
well, all i can say about that your "I call them as i see them" is DUMB, filled with HATRED, BIGOTRY & fact-FREE.

on the whole, the most BIGOTED, most ANTI-Semetic, most PREJUDICED & least EDUCATED area of the nation is the LEFTISTS of the northeast & "left coast".

AFTER you've removed the LOG from all the LEFTIST, socialist,DAMNyankees eyes, you can then worry about the splinters in southerners eyes, without looking like either a DUNCE or a HYPOCRYTE!

free dixie,sw

390 posted on 10/18/2006 8:41:47 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
otoh, do you have evidence that the CG was NOT in service (under one of it's SEVERAL names), inasmuch as the USCG itself CLAIMS service in the AMERICAN REVOLUTION????

According to the website of the U.S. Coast Guard Historian's Office

The United States Coast Guard, one of the country's five armed services, is also one of the most unique agencies of the federal government. We trace our history back to 4 August 1790, when the first Congress authorized the construction of ten vessels to enforce tariff and trade laws, prevent smuggling, and protect the collection of the federal revenue. Known variously as the Revenue Marine and the Revenue Cutter Service, we expanded in size and responsibilities as the nation grew
I can find nothing from the USCG that claims service during the Revolutionary War other than your unsupported assertion.

neither do i have time to go look for any.)

Your seem to have plenty of time for composing these tirades. Maybe that time could be put to better use doing a bit of research to support your positions.

391 posted on 10/18/2006 9:20:34 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie

Dude are you sure your read my post correctly. There is NO hate in my post and I don't buy any "DAMNyankee" propaganda. WTF???


392 posted on 10/18/2006 9:29:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; stand watie
I can find nothing from the USCG that claims service during the Revolutionary War other than your unsupported assertion.

Stand is the master of the unsupported claim. Ask him about the German U-Boat in Galveston sometime. Or that stirring epic "Yachts against Subs". Or how the state of Texas commissioned privateers during the Second World War. You can learn a lot from stand watie. Almost none of it factual, unfortunately.

393 posted on 10/18/2006 11:00:07 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
all i know reference this subject is that the USCG's own docent, at this year's open house in Baltimore, stated that they had coast guard cutters in service during the AR.

and as for taking time to go do a bunch of research for a person whom i suspect wouldn't accept it as TRUTH, REGARDLESS of the SOURCE (the "DAMNyankee coven" members accept NO SOURCE that doesn't agree with their PREJUDICES!), i just CHOOSE not to take what little time i do have in a fruitless attempt to convince the UN-educatable!

free dixie,sw

394 posted on 10/18/2006 2:38:07 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: mad_as_he$$
actually, i was suggesting to YOU that you were attempting to educate the UN-educated AND those who REFUSE TO SEE the TRUTH, when it conflicts with their HATRED & PREJUDICES. i just didn't say it clearly enough, i guess. SORRY! mea culpa!

free dixie,sw

395 posted on 10/18/2006 2:40:46 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur; Bubba Ho-Tep
"Bubba" IF you believe the evasions, 1/2-truths, knowing LIES & the REVISIONIST PROPAGANDA, spewed out by N-S, "The Minister of DAMNyankee PROPAGANDA", you are DUMBER than a rock.

fwiw, N-S is well-known by ALL here as nothing more or less than FR's very own PROPAGANDIST for the LEFT.

believe ANYTHING he posts, absent INDEPENDENT PROOF, at your peril. (i've known & dealt with him for YEARS!)

free dixie,sw

396 posted on 10/18/2006 2:45:00 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
as you very well KNOW the data on YACHTS AGAINST SUBS was posted on FR over a YEAR ago by another member of "YOUR TEAM".

you HOPED everyone would forget the EGG (enough to make an OMLET!) you got on your face over that, didn't you???

i still CHUCKLE at you DAMNyankees DISCOMFORT when you DYs were proved not only WRONG, but it was demonstrated that "the nameLESS shunned one" had KNOWINGLY LIED TO you & "your team" about it! (and then the WHOLE THREAD "magically disappeared" didn't it??? SURPRISE! SURPRISE! could it be that the EMBARRASSED DY coven members DEMANDED that it be "pulled"??? LAUGHING AT the coven!)

a copy of the (supposedly nonexistent) BOOK was posted "for sale" on the www. (and i laughed AT you DY-lunatics for DAYS!)

free dixie,sw

397 posted on 10/18/2006 2:54:37 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
all i know reference this subject is that the USCG's own docent, at this year's open house in Baltimore, stated that they had coast guard cutters in service during the AR.

Hmm. Who to believe? You telling me what someone told you, with no independent collaboration, or a host of information, including the USCG Historian's Office? Hard to decide what's more credible.

(the "DAMNyankee coven" members accept NO SOURCE that doesn't agree with their PREJUDICES!)

I'd at least look at any source. But you provide none at all, while I show the USCG Historian's Office.

Here's another source, from the US Dept. of Defense:

History of Coast Guard Day

August 4 is celebrated as Coast Guard Day to honor the establishment on that day in 1790 of the Revenue Cutter Service, forebear of today's Coast Guard, by the Treasury Department. On that date, Congress, guided by Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, authorized the building of a fleet of ten cutters, whose responsibility would be enforcement of the first tariff laws enacted by Congress under the Constitution.

So let's see where we are. On one hand, the USCG Historian and the Defense Department. On the other hand, you telling me what someone allegedly told you. Then there's Fox News, The National Archives, and a FReeper Canteen thread that you yourself posted on.

398 posted on 10/18/2006 3:04:39 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: azhenfud



And if the South had won we'd be two countries. SO Say YOU ARE GLAD THE UNION WON.


399 posted on 10/18/2006 3:06:53 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell (Sarcasm)
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To: stand watie
as you very well KNOW the data on YACHTS AGAINST SUBS was posted on FR over a YEAR ago by another member of "YOUR TEAM".

Yes indeed. If memory serves the late, and lamented, Heyworth dug up the fact that it was a magazine called "Motorboating and Sailing" from 1970 who had a small blurb on the subject, and they were clearly not reviewing any book. In fact, I believe it was also Heyworth, fondly recalled by his legion of fans and admirers, that pointed out that there is no entry in the Library of Congress for any book under that name or anything resembling that name. So you are right. The "data on YACHTS AGAINST SUBS was posted on FR over a YEAR ago by another member..." of our team. And he showed you up to be completely wrong on all your claims.

Now, was it mac_truck that proved you were lying about that sub in Galveston? Or was that Heyworth, blessings and peace be upon him, that showed you up on that, too?

400 posted on 10/18/2006 3:31:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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