Posted on 10/10/2006 5:08:28 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
While the USCG may date itself to 1790, the Coast Guard dates back at least to 1711.
As what, the British Navy? Do you have any substantiation for this?
:-)
he was SO stupid OR dishonest that he couldn't tell the difference between:
1. a 4-page review of a book (published in at least THREE national magazines) and the book, YACHTS AGAINST SUBS, itself &
2. couldn't tell the difference in the Moline TRACTOR company & the Moline STEAM TRACTION company.
frankly, i never could decide if he was STUPID (as well as a BIGOT) or whether he was simply a KNOWING LIAR & IDIOT. in either case he was/is NO loss to the forum!
you, of course, see NOTHING wrong with being ignorant, HATE-filled,bigoted,STUPID and/or DIShonest with other FReepers! (you ARE after all ONLY a PROPAGANDIST for the unionist/REVISIONIST cause.)
free dixie,sw
even YOU wouldn't believe something as DUMB as that!
face it, N-S, he played you & the "coven" for FOOLS & you ALL swallowed his LIES hook, line & sinker, as you WANTED to believe him! that's called WILFUL STUPIDITY!
laughing AT the "DAMNyankee coven"!
free dixie,sw
i believe you'll find the TRUTH, a "HOOT"!
free dixie,sw
but don't confuse the "DY coven" members with the TRUTH. it makes them WEEP!
free dixie,sw
Fortunately the rest of us don't have the same problem about you. And yet here you still are.
But you CSA fans need to examine who really dishonors the reb battle flag. It's not the Yankees, but the guys who fly it at KKK meetings. It's not us who revere Lincoln who degrade that flag by putting in on bikinis, using it as a prop for some low-talent redneck rock band or by making a cheap buck off it by plastering it on vulgar bumper stickers. That's the flag that people place on the graves on soldiers. Even a CSA hater like myself believes it deserves more respect than that.
Nope. Do you think that the US inventented the Coast Guard? Or was every state before then mystified as to how to defend themselves?
Do you have any substantiation for this?
About this time, the fueds that raged in the adjoining province of North Carolina, threatening to subvert all regular government there, Hyde, the [NC] governor, called upon Spotswood [Virginia governor] for aid. He at first sent Clayton, a man of singular prudence, to endeavor to reconcile the hostile factions. But Cary, the ringleader of the insurgents, having refused to make terms, Spotswood ordered a detachment of militia toward the frontier of North Carolina, while he sent a, body of marines, from the coast-guard ships, to destroy Cary's naval force.Not the British navy, but Virginia militia, marines and their coast guard.
Charles Campbell, History of the Colony and Ancient Dominion of Virginia, Philadelphia PA: J. B. Lippincott & Co., 1860, pp. 379-380.
Yes, based on Article 1 sec.10
The fact is that they cannot withdraw and no where does it state in the Constitution that they can. Pieces of cake. Yes, they could and Tenth Amendment.
No it doesn't say a word about secession.
The 10th was put in to protect individual rights, since the framers of the Bill of Rights thought that listing restrictions on the Federal Gov't would mean what wasn't listed was allowed.
The Bill of Rights has nothing to do with 'States Rights'
What the Constitution does say is that they cannot form compacts or Confederations. They can if they were no longer states, which a huge part of the country truly believed but an even larger part apparently didn't believe. The argument as to whether they could secede and no longer be states was only settled at the point of a bayonet.
They could never ceased to be States and it was as States that they formed the Confederacy, in violation of Article 1, Sec. 10.
When they agreed to the Constitution they agreed that the Union would be a permanant one, and the individual states gave up their right to become sovereign nations.
After the war, key Radical Republicans such as Thaddeus Stephens believed that the seceded states were no longer states and that they should be treated as defeated territories, not states.
That was a contradiction on his part.
And why it did not fly.
Since when is the Union a Confederacy? George Washington kept referring to the new post-1787 union as a "confederated republic." In the 1820s and 1830s the Union started being called a Confederacy, but I haven't found it called that exact word before then.
The Constitution was viewed as forming a Union, by Madision.
If a State has wanted to remain outside the Union when it was ratified it could have done so.
Moreover, that was why the preamble read 'We the People' not the 'We the States'.
A State can no more withdraw from the Union then it can be ejected from the Union. There is a clause in Article V of the Constitution that deals with a state's representation in the Senate. It can't be taken from them without their consent (Radical Republicans, notwithstanding), so they can't be kicked out.
So, what makes you think they can leave?
If secession was legimate there would have been some mechanism put in place for it.
free dixie,sw
if you say YES what are you willing to DO (other than "run your mouth", of course!) to STOP the descretration of the CROSS & the STARS & STRIPES???
if your answer is NO, then WHY did you say that the CSA's (SACRED to us southerners, as a symbol of LIBERTY & of the continuing struggle against the HATE-filled, arrogant LEFTISTS out of the north!) flag is desecrated by the klan-IDIOTS using it????
you cannot have it both ways.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
STATES have POWERS, which in FREE societies are granted to the government by the consent of the governed.
btw, SECESSION is NOT one of the POWERS of the STATES, which were ceded to the central government by the STATES, thus it remains LAWFUL. the STATES, which CREATED the US government are perfectly FREE to change, modify and/or ABOLISH the union of states.
free dixie,sw
Nope. Apparently you're still here.
I will state for the record that I am very sorry Heyworth is gone. If he is a bigot then I must be one too, and if he deserved to be banned for his posts then so do I. Have at it.
i'm 99% sure that he was well aware that his PERSONAL attacks on the "good 'ole rebels" here on FR was KNOWINGLY FALSE & MEAN-spirited in the extreme. (but it IS possible that he was just a LUNATIC & a HATER, i'ds guess???)
frankly, i cannot believe that you subscribed to his penchant for LIES, BIGOTRY & hate-FILLED stupidity. i've always thought that you were "raised better" than that.
free dixie,sw
NO
if your answer is NO, then WHY did you say that the CSA's (SACRED to us southerners, as a symbol of LIBERTY & of the continuing struggle against the HATE-filled, arrogant LEFTISTS out of the north!) flag is desecrated by the klan-IDIOTS using it????
The difference is that the US flag has a continuing history as a noble symbol for 200+ years of the greatest government the world has seen. It is above being truly desecrated by the small-minded.
On the other hand, the rebel flags are symbols of a failed four year rebellion. If it's not treated with respect by those who revere it, it is nothing.
Maybe not fair or very pleasant to hear, but facts are facts.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.