Posted on 10/10/2006 7:34:47 AM PDT by ZGuy
Amid the fallout of the Mark Foley scandal, one consequence appears to be an increasing exposure of the influential role homosexuals have within the Republican party. As the New York Times reported Sunday, homosexuals in the Republican Party -- sometimes known by insider slang terms including the "velvet mafia" or the "pink elephants" -- are a well-established force in the GOP.
According to the Times, many of these homosexual Republicans "have held crucial staff positions for decades," and this has been even more the case in recent years. "They have played decisive roles in passing legislation, running campaigns and advancing careers," the article notes.
And although "gay" GOP members have had to be, in most cases, more discreet about their lifestyle than their counterparts in the Democratic Party, the Mark Foley scandal -- and the recent confirmation of the Florida congressman's homosexuality -- has put a new spotlight on just what influence these homosexuals have within the Republican Party.
As the Times observes, conservative blogs and websites have stated that homosexual staff members played principle roles in investigating the Foley case, suggesting that the party has been betrayed by homosexual men trying to hide misconduct by one of their own.
The newspaper also says a group of homosexual activists has started a document known as "the list," a roster of homosexual congressional staff members and their Republican bosses. The list, the Times suggests, is an apparent attempt to force homosexual Republicans working in and around the Capitol to be more open about their lifestyle choice.
Meanwhile, one pro-family activist is calling for more openness about another aspect of the scandal. Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth believes the media have taken great pains to avoid using the words "homosexual" or "gay" in coverage of the Foley scandal. "There's clearly an effort here to make this somehow a pedophile issue or something that's separate from the homosexual issue," he asserts, "and, of course, this is right up the homosexual alley."
There is a well-documented history of homosexual men pursuing underage boys, LaBarbera says; but homosexual activists are getting help in burying this fact. "What we're seeing here," he contends, "is another effort by the media, working with the gay lobby, to separate out Foley's predations on a teenage boy from the homosexual issue."
The media is not being intellectually honest about the Foley situation or the pattern that it illustrates, the pro-family activist insists. "There's a long history of homosexuals being predators on teenage boys," he says.
"The fact is, if you go all the way back to the days of ancient Greece, there were homosexual relationships between adult men and teenage boys; so it's really ridiculous to say this has nothing to do with homosexuality," LaBarbera notes. He says the media's reporting of the Foley scandal has been marked by a great deal of political correctness, while the media have actually helped homosexual activists bury the truth.
The fact that so many Americans are repulsed by Mark Foley's ordinary homosexual behavior should be a clue to the pro-homo media and those in both political parties who think these folks are just like the rest of us. They aren't.
Well, I'm a social conservative. But I have no problem with homosexuals who share my agenda being in a coalition with me and exercising political power.
Of course, R homosexuals do or could cause the following problems for the Republican party:
1. I don't believe homosexuals, as homosexuals, should be held up as role models in public. It's the wrong message to children. As long as R homosexuals are discreet about their problem, that doesn't occur. There is, however, the danger that they will eventually be used to legitimate the practice of homosexuality because they are respected and powerful Republicans.
2. Because most R homosexuals in power are, to some extent, closeted, they are very vulnerable to blackmail. We see some of that happening now.
3. In today's charged climate, I suspect there is a strong possibility of hidden agendas where congressional staffers could have a lot of power.
4. Reactions like yours. The party isn't a church. So there is no requirement, ala Paul, to temporarily exclude sinners from the party until they change their ways. But the secular humanists will and have used this as a wedge, depending on Christian conservatives to act like ninnys and commit political suicide. Of course, the remedy for that is easy. Don't act like ninnys.
There's a lot of better reasons to be annoyed at the R's than a bunch of homosexual staffers.
Political coalitions are often messy and throw unlikely bedfellows together (bad image there). We need every conservative vote and contributor. I'm not willing to run homosexuals out of the party. Besides, if we ran all the sinners out of the party, who would be left?
Darn, there you go ruining a perfectly good thread by making a sincere thoughtful commentary, that isn't knee-jerk ideological or dogmatic, about a complex problem . I suppose you don't let the middle schoolers put the grain alcohol in the punch as well...what a spoil sport.
Can you please explain what you mean? They are not standing up to the smear from the Dems or they are not standing up to the smear from "gays". Or??
Its time to clean house. The Republicans wanted a "big tent"; well, they got it. Its time to shrink the tent or they will lose from here on out.
Exactly. The GOP better start understanding that fact. Also, I just ignore those who will make ANY excuse for a Republican, no matter what they do.
"So long as the PC-crap continues, afraid of offending the faggots and dykes is ruining the Republican Party, simply through the fear of Judicial Activist judges ruling in favor of the deviates as a 14th Amendment contortion."
And this idea of yours is represented by a predonderance of GOP majorities, at the national and state levels, for legislative and Constitutional measures to preserve the traditional views of marriage??? Not. Including the votes of GOP state and national representatives and Senators, some of whose staffs might include a "homosexual"?? Not.
I think that there is not a legislative history in GOP majorities that agrees with your idea.
I was thinking the same thing, but decided not to say anything. Thanks for saying it for me. LOL.
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First, one must assume that if such a mafia exists, there is some evidence that it has achieved some result, in an affect on policies and legislative agendas that it might be seeking.
Second, there is no evidence that such a "mafia" has impacted GOP legislative agendas, at the state or national level, in a way one would assume such a "mafia" would try to do.
As far as the term "lavender mafia" goes, I have only known it to be used and expressed among liberals when speaking of gay activists among the staffs of elected Democrats; and surely there are plenty of examples of Democrat legislative agendas that one could presume might have been pushed by said "mafia".
So, I would have to conclude that this entire tale orginates, as the orgininal "outing" of Foley does, somewhere with those who find some perverse political benefit from suppressing the "social conservative" vote for GOP members in November.
Nice try, but it won't work here.
Another RAT ploy to upset "easily-led fundamentalists" by telling them their GOP leadership loves gays.
True... heterosexuals never do perverted things like trading in older first wives for hot, younger models..... ;)
"As far as the term "lavender mafia" goes, I have only known it to be used and expressed among liberals when speaking of gay activists among the staffs of elected Democrats"
I used "Lavender Mafia" in the sense that it is commonly used to refer to the homosexual network active within the Roman Catholic clergy and episcopate.
Feel free to learn more here:
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/dossier.jsp?did=dossier-lavender-mafia
An interesting thing I have noticed watching the Dateline predators series is that the men going after the girls are just guys; truck drivers, computer geeks, factory workers etc., the men going after the boys are; Preachers, Rabbis, teacher, pediatricians, coaches etc. all well educated, well-to-do professional types. I guess Congressmen would fit in that category.
I have also noticed that when the series started it was girls one week, boys the next, then all of a sudden it became all girls all the time. I wonder if the HRC snet NBC an email telling them to pull the plug on the homosexual angle?
Yet another reason why the Republicans are facing losing seats in Congress. Clean the closet or lose power.
Let's repeat this in bold face. This is all we need to remember.
The POINT being made was that the Church sex abuse scandal was mostly NOT pedophilia. It was pederasty/ephebophilia, gay men and teenage boys.
And, it's about Americans who know better not standing for the truth: that homosexuality is moral degeneracy and mental disorder.
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