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Don't Bring That Booze into My Taxi
New York Sun ^ | 10/10/06 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 10/11/2006 7:37:12 AM PDT by Jean S

A minor issue at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport (MSP) has potentially major implications for the future of Islam in the United States.

Starting about a decade ago, some Muslim taxi drivers serving the airport declared that they would not transport passengers visibly carrying alcohol, in transparent duty-free shopping bags, for example. This stance stemmed from their understanding of the Koran's ban on alcohol. A driver named Fuad Omar explained: "This is our religion. We could be punished in the afterlife if we agree to [transport alcohol]. This is a Koran issue. This came from heaven." Another driver, Muhamed Mursal, echoed his words: "It is forbidden in Islam to carry alcohol."

The issue emerged publicly in 2000. On one occasion, 16 drivers in a row refused a passenger with bottles of alcohol. This left the passenger - who had done nothing legally wrong - feeling like a criminal. For their part, the 16 cabbies lost income. As Josh L. Dickey of the Associated Press put it, when drivers at MSP refuse a fare for any reason, "they go to the back of the line. Waaaay back. Past the terminal, down a long service road, and into a sprawling parking lot jammed with cabs in Bloomington, where drivers sit idle for hours, waiting to be called again."

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More on Those Minnesota Taxi Drivers

In an article today, "Don't Bring That Booze into My Taxi," I take up the issue of hacks at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport (MSP) and their unwillingness to transport passengers who visibly carry alcohol. Here are some additional points of interest that could not fit the column.

(October 10, 2006)

1 posted on 10/11/2006 7:37:13 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS

Forget about sending them to the back of the line - send them back where they came from. If they're from here tell them to get another job.


2 posted on 10/11/2006 7:39:13 AM PDT by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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To: JeanS

The answer is simple, revoke their carriage license. If they want to be a mullah, let them open a mosque, if they want to be a cab driver follow the city rules.


3 posted on 10/11/2006 7:40:28 AM PDT by tigtog
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To: JeanS
If they do not pull their permits, they should allow gypsy taxis!
4 posted on 10/11/2006 7:41:34 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: JeanS

Once in a north African country a local colleague told me the ban on alcohol was in fact just an interpretation, the Koran itself being somewhat vague as such texts often are.


5 posted on 10/11/2006 7:42:36 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: JeanS

GOOD. I hope the SATANIC cult of Islam Muslims ALL tag themselves for what they are. We NEED to see these clowns in society.

So, for the camel humping taxi drivers.....DO NOT GET IN THEIR cars. DO NOT support ANY business Muslims attempt to provide. Their American dream needs to be axed until they become AMERICANS.


6 posted on 10/11/2006 7:42:36 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: hometoroost

Some would call it profiling, but if you hail a cab and it's driven by a cabbie that looks middle eastern, just pass them by. When it starts hurting their wallet, they will be forced to submit to the evil infidels or risk going broke. A concerted effort will stem these islamofascists.


7 posted on 10/11/2006 7:43:03 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: hometoroost

That's it exactly.

I can understand their restrictions, from a religous point of view I may even attempt to honor their request.

However, they have taken a job that may put them at odds with their religion. As a christian it would be indecent for me to work for a strip club. It would not be indecent of me to refuse the owner's business however.

For those who would say otherwise, remember we are supposed to witness. Other than a business setting we may not be able to reach these people.


8 posted on 10/11/2006 7:45:08 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (World's newest Freeper, Andrew Wyatt born October 8, 2006)
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To: tigtog
I think their plan is to get their licenses revoked, have the ACLU sue, and then retire millionaires.

The world is turning into South Park.
10 posted on 10/11/2006 7:45:18 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: 1066AD

The exact wording is to not let the first drop of alcohol pass your lips.

I've seen muslims spill the firs few drops of their drink out so that it does not pass their lips and drink the rest.


11 posted on 10/11/2006 7:46:45 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (World's newest Freeper, Andrew Wyatt born October 8, 2006)
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To: JeanS

This is similar to the story of the Pharmacist who refused to provide birth control, as she was Catholic. Or the waiter who refused to serve alcohol in the resturant because he was Baptist.

If you accept money to provide a service; you are selling your service - not your values. If you feel uncomfortable doing this, then perhaps a different field is in order. If you work as a waiter, but refuse to work weekends; you either work at a Chic-a-filet or find a resturant that will accomodat your needs. To demand that others change to accomodate YOUR religion is out of line; especially in a service industry. That's my opinion.


12 posted on 10/11/2006 7:47:24 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: JeanS


I'm on the cabbies side.

What if I were a doctor and based on my religious preferences I don't want to be in the operating room during an abortion?


13 posted on 10/11/2006 7:47:48 AM PDT by jstassis
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To: JeanS
I have a simple solution. Suspend the license of any cab driver who refuses a fare. We punish Christians who 'discriminate' due to their religion, so let's quit showing favoritism to these mad dogs.
14 posted on 10/11/2006 7:49:13 AM PDT by Wingrider (Liberal-A person so intelligent they become STUPID)
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To: JeanS

"What's going to be next?Do i have to cover my head?"Not yet!


15 posted on 10/11/2006 7:49:20 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: MadeInAmerica

I'm glad you brought up the satanic cult thing.

Perhaps Christian & Jewish cab drivers can now start refusing muslim fares based on the aversion to being in the company of the followers of satan. Seems fair to me!

What goes around, comes around.


16 posted on 10/11/2006 7:49:41 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: JeanS
...We could be punished in the afterlife...

Virgin: "Not tonight, I have a headache."

17 posted on 10/11/2006 7:49:43 AM PDT by CAWats (Post to Free Republic without knowing HTML. Click my name.)
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To: Mister Da

I'm glad you brought up the satanic cult thing.

Perhaps Christian & Jewish cab drivers can now start refusing muslim fares based on the aversion to being in the company of the followers of satan. Seems fair to me!

What goes around, comes around.
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Ohhh, a very good addition. Excellent


18 posted on 10/11/2006 7:58:29 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: JeanS

I'm wondering if it would be considered ok, if a cab driver refused to drop an obviously pregnant woman off at an abortion clinic?


19 posted on 10/11/2006 7:59:21 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stm

Lebanese Christians could be taxi drivers.


20 posted on 10/11/2006 7:59:24 AM PDT by Utahrd
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To: Utahrd

Hey look Ahmed, the Pork Rinds just don't go down as easy without a beer chaser.


21 posted on 10/11/2006 8:03:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Utahrd

Hey look Ahmed, the Pork Rinds just don't go down as easy without a beer chaser.


22 posted on 10/11/2006 8:03:16 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: JeanS

Let the market decide. If people don't like what the Muslim cab drivers are doing, don't give them your business. I don't think the government should be dictating business policy.


23 posted on 10/11/2006 8:03:36 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: Utahrd

Then ask them if they allow alcohol in their cabs. If they say no, tell them to take a hike. Eventually they will have to submit or go out of business


24 posted on 10/11/2006 8:05:49 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: tigtog

So a pizza delivery guy can not refuse delivery to a dangerous area because he will be DEAD, but, a muslim cab driver can refuse service to someone carrying alcohol.
How have we gotten to this strange time in our history?


25 posted on 10/11/2006 8:11:21 AM PDT by Holicheese (Beerfest could be the greatest movie ever made!)
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To: MadeInAmerica

No rides in a taxi driven by a mooselimb then. Walk if necessary!


26 posted on 10/11/2006 8:11:56 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Mister Da

"Perhaps Christian and Jewish cab drivers can now start refusing Muslims fares."But..but.....that would be discriminatory:)


27 posted on 10/11/2006 8:12:52 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Hawk1976

I like to pour mine on the corner for my peeps taht can't be here with me.


28 posted on 10/11/2006 8:12:52 AM PDT by Holicheese (Beerfest could be the greatest movie ever made!)
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To: JeanS
Don't Bring That Booze into My Taxi

I haven't seen this question answered anywhere:

Are these driver-owned cars or are the taxis owned by a business and the drivers just check out the cars each day?

-PJ

29 posted on 10/11/2006 8:13:39 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Hodar
It's actually not similar to the pharmacist who objected to refused to fill prescriptions that ended life, in her mind. The point of medicine is to heal, and forcing people to participate in things that actually cause harm, such as RU 486, or in Oregon, filling Doctor assisted suicide orders, is wrong.

I understood that it was against the law to refuse a fair. If not, then why can't the cabbies choose who they offer their service to?
30 posted on 10/11/2006 8:14:07 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Rummyfan

Easier said than done if you live in Minneapolis-St Paul.

Well over half of the cab drivers are Somali, a smaller group are Nigerians and the smallest group are white guys.

More often than not, my cab driver was a Somali. If I wanted to get home, I took the ride.


31 posted on 10/11/2006 8:20:11 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: JeanS

"boycott the Muslim taxis"
damned good idea.
what's to stop the sensible rider from saying "oh, sorry, I've got wine in my bags. I'll have to take another taxi".
Since PC won't allow us to kick the throat-slitters out, we have to fight back in this way.


32 posted on 10/11/2006 8:25:27 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadists: The new nazis, aided and abetted by the left and their enablers in the media.)
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To: stm

I think everyone should carry bottles. Let's keep sending these bastards to the back of the line and letting the American drivers get their fares.


33 posted on 10/11/2006 8:26:12 AM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: JeanS

I wonder if getting in their cab after a night of drinking and throwing up on their backseat counts.


34 posted on 10/11/2006 8:27:03 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: JeanS

"We could be punished in the afterlife if we agree to [transport alcohol]."
what a warped set of values that considers the carrying of alcohol worse than slowly slicing the head off a person while singing religious ditties!


35 posted on 10/11/2006 8:27:16 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadists: The new nazis, aided and abetted by the left and their enablers in the media.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

"It is forbidden in Islam to carry alcohol."
It is forbidden in my religion to lock kids in a school and torture and murder them.


36 posted on 10/11/2006 8:28:11 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadists: The new nazis, aided and abetted by the left and their enablers in the media.)
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To: Holicheese

"How have we gotten to this strange time in our history"?

It's called the "slippery slope" or the boiling frog analogy.


37 posted on 10/11/2006 8:32:44 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

You are so right.
How can someone with a straight face, argue that this is OK?


38 posted on 10/11/2006 8:34:54 AM PDT by Holicheese (Beerfest could be the greatest movie ever made!)
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To: MadeInAmerica
Gimme a few more minutes & I'll think of a few more reasons.

As an alternative to actually refusing a muslim fare, a couple of miniatures of Bacardi or Jim Beam dangling from the rear view mirror or a bright yellow Budweiser on Board sign in the window might ward off the suicidal ones. Sorta like garlic to a vampire.

It seems reasonable that if a muslim cabbie doesn't want to carry a dog or booze, then they certainly don't want to ride in a cab containing either. Usually, I don't either, but I'm changing my attitude & tightening my seat belt.

Free thinking societies should be able to chew up & spit out these ridiculously primitive ideas of intolerance, but we have lived in freedom for so long we have forgotten why.
39 posted on 10/11/2006 8:35:44 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: JeanS
With this in mind, MAC proposed a pragmatic solution: drivers unwilling to carry alcohol could get a special color light on their car roofs, signaling their views on alcohol to taxi starters and customers alike.

Perhaps neighborhoods should be allowed to put up "special colored lights" to signal their views that Muslims shouldn't be free to live in that section of town.

Perhaps business should be allowed to put up "special colored lights" to signal that "No Muslims Need Apply.

40 posted on 10/11/2006 8:36:01 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Colorado: the original Red State.)
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To: JeanS

Solution: more non-Muslim cab drivers who will drive those fares,rule that a driver who refuses a fare is free to do so, but must go to the end of the line when they make the choice to skip a fare. Public is under no obligation to subsidize their religious scruples, but should allow them to make the choice (and pay the price in lost income and fare pickup opportunity).


41 posted on 10/11/2006 8:40:55 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: JeanS

How many times are we going to post this article?


42 posted on 10/11/2006 8:42:10 AM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: RS_Rider; JeanS

Well I, for one, hadn't seen this article and I'm glad it was re-posted.


43 posted on 10/11/2006 8:48:24 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Slump Tester

"I think everyone should carry bottles. Let's keep sending these bastards to the back of the line and letting the American drivers get their fares."


Excellent idea.


44 posted on 10/11/2006 8:50:11 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic
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To: Utahrd

Not in Minneapolis..........you have to be Somali to drive a cab at the MPS airport.


45 posted on 10/11/2006 8:56:25 AM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: JeanS

Here's my take on it:

Have a taxi supervisor (or a cop) at the pickup point at each terminal. If a cab driver refuses to take a fare for a reason not allowed by law, the supervisor a) sends the driver all the way to the end of the line, and b) notifies the hackney license agency of the violation. The license agency then follows the law regarding suspension and revocation of the driver's hackney license.

There's laws that regulate this stuff, folks. All we need to do is use them.


46 posted on 10/11/2006 9:00:29 AM PDT by RonF
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To: mockingbyrd

The difference is between what is legal, and what is ethical.

Ethics vary from person to person, religon to religon and culture to culture. For example, in some cultures it is permissible to treat women as chattle, and discard them at will. Visitors are given free sexual access to the host's wife for the night. Children can be bought or sold. Some religons promote alcohol while others prohibit it.

As long as RU-386 is legal; I see no reason why a doctor or pharmicist can refuse to serve a customer who requests it, and keep their job. Now you and I may find abortion to be the same as murder (and I think we do); however we are a country of laws. We are free to change the laws, but we must operate within the laws. If we allow everyone to arbitrarily super-impose their ethics over our laws - we will have chaos.

This means that the cabbie who works for a cab company has a choice, take the fare and keep the job; or skip the fare and get fired. Engineers can design bombs for the military and keep their jobs, or refuse and get fired. Pharmacyists can dispense condoms, birth control pills and RU-386; or they can work somewhere else.

It's pretty simple, really. We are a country of laws.


47 posted on 10/11/2006 9:01:50 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: JeanS
Here's a solution: Maybe they ought to provide Muslim cabbies who don't want to transport alcohol their very own stand, much farther away from the terminal(s) than the regular taxi stand.

After all, there's no reason the already beleaguered airline passenger has to suffer because some stupid Muslims insist on pushing their religious bigotry in people's faces, particularly when it results from a misreading of Islamic tenets.

48 posted on 10/11/2006 9:06:49 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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is this the 10th article with the same headline in 3 weeks?


49 posted on 10/11/2006 9:07:07 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (Those that can't , Teach. Those that can't teach , Report)
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To: 1066AD

That's right. The intention was to prohibit strong drink.


50 posted on 10/11/2006 9:08:58 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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