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Empire State Building Sustained Crash (Plane hit Empire State Building)
ABC News ^ | 10/11/06 | ABC News

Posted on 10/11/2006 1:24:35 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0

Sept. 11 The last time a plane crashed into a New York City skyscraper was July 28, 1945. A U.S. bomber flying through thick fog at about 200 mph crashed into the Empire State Building, one of the most recognized structures in the world.

Fourteen people were killed, and dozens injured.

Eyewitnesses, aware the United States was in the midst of World War II, feared the worst.

"Thought we'd been bombed," Doris Pope, Boynton Beach, Fla. told the The Palm Beach Post in 1999. "I worked for the Office of Office of Price Administration in the Empire State Building. That day, as we were getting ready to take our coffee break, we heard this terrible noise, and the building started to shake. … As we looked out our third-floor window, we saw debris fall on to the street. We immediately thought New York was being bombed.

"We were then told that an airplane hit the building," she continued.

Plane Cleared to Land in Newark

On that day in 1945, an Army Air Corps B-25 bomber headed from Bedford, Mass., to Newark, N.J., was lumbering low over Manhattan in extremely thick fog, according to reports.

Lt. Col. William F. Smith Jr., the pilot of the B-25, was told to land at Municipal Airport in Queens (now known as LaGuardia). But he insisted for clearance at Newark, according to a New York Times report.

Reports say that just as Smith was cleared to land, he was already headed toward disaster. Government regulations said that aircraft should fly at least 2,000 feet over Manhattan. The plane struck the building 913 feet above the ground, at 34th Street in midtown. The plane's nose had crashed into the building's north side.

"It was rainy, overcast," Louis Triandafilou, an Army Air Forces photographic lab chief stationed at Newark Airport who took aerial photographs of weather conditions told the Clearwater Times in 1991. "You couldn't see the peak of the Empire State Building, and part of the Statue of Liberty's torch was obscured by fog."

When the plane crashed, one of its engines whizzed from the north wall, and through the south wall, ultimately landing on the roof of a nearby building. Debris from the building and plane also severed through elevator cables, and sent two cars and passengers into freefall.

Smith was killed, along with the other two crewmembers, in addition to another 11 people working at their desks, and over two dozen more were injured. The workers were on the staff of the National Catholic Welfare Service, now known as Catholic Relief Services, who still keep their offices on the 79th floor.

About $1 million in damage was reportedly done to the building. Because it was Saturday, the offices were not fully staffed, perhaps preventing more damage and injuries, reports say.

Eyewitnesses Remember Panic

Eyewitnesses who are still alive and were there for the incident remember midtown Manhattan being in a state of panic.

"I heard a horrendous noise," eyewitness Helen J. Hurwitt, from Greenacres, Fla., told the Post. "My husband and I were in a building directly opposite the Empire State Building. … Large plate-glass windows looked out onto 34th Street. The floor we were on was pretty high. At some point, we heard a horrendous noise and rushed to the windows. … We were horrified to see a B-25 half in and half out of the Empire State Building."

Reports say that it took three months to repair the 78th and 79th floors, both of which were damaged. Crews had to repair bent girders, seal the walls, and restore the two floors of offices.

Today, the building remains structurally sound, say reports.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: wtf
Bizarre coincidence this article was published today in light of the current situation.
1 posted on 10/11/2006 1:24:36 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Saw an interesting show on the History Channel a few months back about the building of the ESB.

They sure don't build 'em like they used to...

2 posted on 10/11/2006 1:27:52 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Coincidence?????? I think not!! Bush is behind this! And the Jooooooos!


3 posted on 10/11/2006 1:28:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: All
The workers were on the staff of the National Catholic Welfare Service, now known as Catholic Relief Services, who still keep their offices on the 79th floor.

Wow. Nice digs.

4 posted on 10/11/2006 1:28:48 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
July 28, 1945. A U.S. bomber flying through thick fog at about 200 mph crashed into the Empire State Building... Eyewitnesses, aware the United States was in the midst of World War II, feared the worst.

Yep, 10 days before Hiroshima the dreaded Japanese kamikaze offensive on NYC began.

Who writes this stuff?

5 posted on 10/11/2006 1:29:30 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
The last time a plane crashed into a New York City skyscraper was July 28, 1945

ABC cannot even get this one right. The last time a plane crashed into a New York City skyscraper was September 11, 2001.

6 posted on 10/11/2006 1:30:30 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ClearCase_guy

Actually this is the best possible scenario for Republicans, it brings up graphic memories of 9-11 but does not open them up for the criticisms of not protecting the people from a terrorist attack.


7 posted on 10/11/2006 1:31:32 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Photo by Ernie Sisto/New York Times

Too late the pilot of the U.S. Army B-25 bomber with three men aboard, saw the Empire State Building loom up before his eyes. At 300 miles per hour, he plunged through the 34th Street side of the building wreaking havoc. The major portion of the wreckage penetrated the 78th floor. An engine hurtled down an elevator shaft igniting a furious fire in the basement. Parts of the motor and landing gear tore through the entire building landing on top of a 13-story ediface across the street and igniting a second conflagration.

With legs held down by two newsmen, photographer Ernie Sisto crawled out on a harrowing ledge and took the historic photo. It ran on page one of the New York Times.

8 posted on 10/11/2006 1:31:58 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think ABC may really asking if the Empire State Bldg didn't collapes when hit by a B52 why did the WTC buildings fall?
9 posted on 10/11/2006 1:32:32 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: traderrob6
Actually this is the best possible scenario for Republicans

What can I say? Rove is a real smart fella.

10 posted on 10/11/2006 1:33:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Wow, just wow.


11 posted on 10/11/2006 1:33:28 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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Gee, and all this time I thought the last plane to hit a NYC skyscraper was United flight 175 on 9/11/01 at 9:03am.  Unless 110 stories isn't tall enough to be called a skyscraper.

 

12 posted on 10/11/2006 1:33:37 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I remember this crash. I was 10 at the time. It got a lot pf publicity.


13 posted on 10/11/2006 1:33:42 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Not sure of your point, with WW2 still raging, Americans would think of an attack whether on the East or West coast. There had been some attempted saboteurs apprehended and teh whole nation was on a war footing. And no one knew Hiroshima was about to happen.


14 posted on 10/11/2006 1:35:23 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yup - park a B-25 next to an F-15D/E.

Guess which one is bigger and heavier?

Which can carry a bigger bomb load, has greater range and a smaller crew?

Some things do get better with new tech, tho, as a COIN aircraft, the B-25 (modified) was formidable.
15 posted on 10/11/2006 1:35:32 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Williams

Granted all your points, but it was more a comment on the hyperbole of the author. Whom I doubt has your grasp of history.


16 posted on 10/11/2006 1:38:35 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

They wanted to forget that one!!!


17 posted on 10/11/2006 1:38:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: TexasCajun

Yo B-25. not B-52


18 posted on 10/11/2006 1:38:47 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TexasCajun
I think ABC may really asking if the Empire State Bldg didn't collapes when hit by a B52 why did the WTC buildings fall?

B-25's and B-52's are two completely different animals.

A fully loaded B-52 hitting the empire state building, brings it down.

A B-25 is small and light in comparison.

19 posted on 10/11/2006 1:42:48 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

ABC has become the beacon of hype, slime and sleaze.

You have an actual plane crash at a building in Manhattan and low and behold ABC follows with "Empire State Building Sustained Crash" as if its a breaking story.

Those people are nuts.


20 posted on 10/11/2006 1:43:20 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: UNGN
A fully loaded B-52 hitting the empire state building, brings it down.

Really? I always thought that the B-52 was based (loosely,at least) on the 707...which is substantially smaller and lighter than the 767.

Granted if it has a full compliment of ordnance...that detonates upon/after impact you've got a different story.

21 posted on 10/11/2006 1:46:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: Wuli
Don't know how much credit to give this, but Neil Cavuto just stated twice that he heard the pilot might have been Yankee pitcher Cory Lidle.

No flames please, just reporting what I just heard on his show while he was interviewing Charlie Rangle.

22 posted on 10/11/2006 1:47:21 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
It's also interesting that the article is dated today, October 11th, but the text heading says September 11. Kind of spooky.
23 posted on 10/11/2006 1:50:15 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: CaptRon

Thats the story breaking all over. He was 34


24 posted on 10/11/2006 1:53:14 PM PDT by winodog
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To: UNGN
A B-25 is small and light in comparison

But a whole carrier of B-25s can do a lot of damage...to the psyche of the enemy at least!

25 posted on 10/11/2006 2:07:24 PM PDT by Lekker 1 (("...the world will be...eleven degrees colder by the year 2000" -- K. Watt, Earth Day, 1970)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
ABC cannot even get this one right. The last time a plane crashed into a New York City skyscraper was September 11, 2001.
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I was wondering when someone was going to point this out.

If the Drive-by Media had its way - down the memory hole.
26 posted on 10/11/2006 2:18:00 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cheburashka

27 posted on 10/11/2006 2:19:23 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

We remember - ABC tries its best not to.


28 posted on 10/11/2006 2:22:02 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Lekker 1

Doolittle raid, baby!


29 posted on 10/11/2006 2:26:26 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi; Rb ver. 2.0

Is this from today? The date says September 11 and I'm not even sure that's 9/11 of this year.


30 posted on 10/11/2006 2:35:48 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Gay State Conservative

NO! The B-52 is is not even remotely like a 707.

Also a B-25 is MUCH smaller than a 707, 767, OR B-52


31 posted on 10/11/2006 2:39:23 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Mr. Mojo

Could it be due to less fuel in that plane?


32 posted on 10/11/2006 2:42:15 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Really? I always thought that the B-52 was based (loosely,at least) on the 707...which is substantially smaller and lighter than the 767.

Granted if it has a full compliment of ordnance...that detonates upon/after impact you've got a different story.

Take off weight of a B-52 is 480,000 lbs

Take off weight of a B-25 is 35,000 lbs.

You can do the math.

Take off weight of a 767 is only about 400,000 lbs.

You do not want to be in a building hit by a B-52

33 posted on 10/11/2006 2:47:55 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Mr. Mojo
They sure don't build 'em like they used to...

The World Trade Centers could, almost certainly, have sustained a collision comparable to the ESB one with minimal damage.

The jets which hit the World Trade Centers were several times heavier than a B-25, with proportionately larger fuel tanks, which were nearly full (instead of nearly empty), and were traveling much faster when they hit. The net effect of all this is that each of the jets had to dissipate about 2 orders of magnitude more energy (both kinetic and potential) than was the case with the B-25.

Think of the difference between a motorcycle, with a nearly empty fuel tank, hitting a house, at 30 mph, then imagine a truck, with a nearly full fuel tank, hitting the same house, at 60 mph, and you will get an idea of the difference.

34 posted on 10/11/2006 3:14:37 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
This is a spoof site. Look at the url :

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92525&page=1

abcnews.GO.COM ??

And look at the opening of the story, "Sept. 11 The last time a plane crashed into a New York City skyscraper was July 28, 1945."

Granted the date at the top of the article is 10/11/2006 but the rest is a dead giveaway........
35 posted on 10/11/2006 7:39:20 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: festus

It's not a spoof site. Type http://www.abcnews.com and see how it changes.


36 posted on 10/11/2006 8:01:00 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

I stand corrected.

Well its official then. They are dumber then dirt in the newsroom over there........


37 posted on 10/11/2006 8:34:24 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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