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Reid's land deal free of scandal; GOP on witch hunt - "He is one of the most ethical men I know."
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | Published on: 10/17/06 | MAX CLELAND

Posted on 10/17/2006 6:42:11 AM PDT by rface

In an Oct. 13 editorial, the AJC called on Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to "look in the mirror first" on congressional ethics.

Reid has been a friend and mentor to me for almost a decade. He is one of the most ethical men I know.


Max Cleland was U.S. senator from Georgia from 1997 to
2003, and Georgia's secretary of state from 1983 to 1996.

This story is simple. In 1998, Reid bought land. In 2004, he sold it. For the six years in between, he told everyone — including Congress — that he owned the land.

The only serious question is whether he made a technical error in how he described his ownership of the land. So now Reid has done the right thing and asked the Senate Ethics Committee to clarify the matter. If the ethics committee finds Reid needs to issue a correction, it will probably be as simple as adding an asterisk to the existing report. This story is much ado about an asterisk.

Compare that effort to clear up any mistake to a Republican leadership in Congress that knew about a sexual predator in their ranks for perhaps as many as five years and chose to cover it up rather than ensure that the teenage children sent to the Capitol each year were fully protected.

This latest tempest in a teapot is nothing more than a smear campaign by Republicans desperate to hold on to a Congressional majority they've done nothing to deserve.

Republicans in Washington have no ideas for the future and no solutions to clean up their mistakes. All they have left is baseless charges.

I am disgusted by these latest attacks — it's a dirty trick I know all too well. Republicans distribute misleading propaganda in the hope that malicious lies will distort honest truths. They used the same tactics against me four years ago, and I will not let them succeed this time.

The Republican Congress has failed in Iraq, failed on health care, raised taxes on the middle class and made America less safe. It's time for change in this country. GOP leaders think smearing a good man is a substitute for effective leadership, but I'm proud to say Democratic leaders such as Reid are fighting to take America in a new direction.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blewhimselfup; looser; scumbag; traitor
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this little story has the Democratics running in circles.
1 posted on 10/17/2006 6:42:12 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface

These aren't the droids you're looking for.


2 posted on 10/17/2006 6:43:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: rface
this little story has the Democratics running in circles.

Good trick for Max.

3 posted on 10/17/2006 6:44:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: rface

" ... and Harry Greed paid me good money under the table to come out and say this."


4 posted on 10/17/2006 6:44:37 AM PDT by Babu
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To: rface

Did he comment about Dingy Harry's misuse of campaign funds which he's now returning?


5 posted on 10/17/2006 6:44:53 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: rface

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10162006/postopinion/opedcolumnists/reids_smelly_windfall_opedcolumnists_ed_morrissey.htm

Then, the next year, Reid introduced and pushed into law the Clark County Conservation of Public Land and Natural Resources Act of 2002. The senator heralded this as vital in protecting the environment near Las Vegas. In fact, however, the law forced the Department of the Interior to sell off 18,000 acres of land around Las Vegas, spurring development and boosting the value of real-estate investments in the region. (Not what anyone normally associates with "protecting the environment.")

Normally, the government would have to sell this land at auction, as land swaps had lost the federal government millions in southern Nevada. But Reid insisted on suspending that rule in his Clark County act. The developers that hired his sons as lobbyists prospered with the lower-cost acquisitions of prime real estate through the uneven swaps. Also in the money were those - like Harry Reid himself - who'd already invested money in Clark County real estate.

The L.A. Times revealed the Reid family's extensive connections with Clark County developers in June 2003, as well as Reid's extensive legislative interest in the land, but the Brown-Reid investment had not yet come to light - thanks to Reid's failure to disclose.

Had the investment been known, voters could have made the connection. The Senate Ethics Committee might have taken an interest as well - except that Harry Reid himself sat as the top Democrat on that panel.


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6 posted on 10/17/2006 6:45:15 AM PDT by listenhillary (Islam = Religion of peace. If you say otherwise, we'll kill you!)
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To: rface
The only serious question is whether he made a technical error in how he described his ownership of the land.

Yeah, ignore all those other details, such as the stench of the legislation Reid pushed through Congress that directly benefited developers at a cost to US taxpayers, and indirectly benefited his sons, since the law firm that hires all of them got to dish the goodies to the developers in return for lobbying fees.

Doesn't sound too much different from what Weldon is being investigated for. What's good for the goose is good for the donkey as well.

7 posted on 10/17/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: rface

So if it was all so simple why didn't he tell the truth from the start .. now Reid's saying there's two more transactions as yet unreported. Hmm.


8 posted on 10/17/2006 6:45:56 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: rface

Unfortunately, everything that a$$, Foley, did was legal, too. Doesn't mean it was ethical.


9 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: rface

Cleland is still bending over for the Democrat Party.

I'd bet he'd give his right arm to be back in the Senate.


10 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:14 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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To: rface
Reid has been a friend and mentor to me for almost a decade. He is one of the most ethical men I know.

If you hang around with democrats, he probably is one of the most ethical men you know.

11 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:30 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: rface
He is one of the most ethical men I know.

I'd call that a textbook case of damning with faint praise

12 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:36 AM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The great lesson from Max Cleland: "Never carry hand grenades when you take a helicopter to a beer party picnic."
13 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:37 AM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: rface

LOL - from the unbiased source of a bitter ex-Dem senator whose personal morals and ethics are also questionable, if I remember correctly.


14 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:42 AM PDT by Princip. Conservative
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To: listenhillary
The developers that hired his sons as lobbyists

Isn't Weldon being investigated for something similar?

15 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:51 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: AppyPappy
ROLF, AppyPappy. What ever happened to the charges of a culture of corruption I haven't heard that from Jefferson Reid Demonrats lately.
16 posted on 10/17/2006 6:46:54 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
I'd bet he'd give his right arm to be back in the Senate.

Too late, this story has legs.

17 posted on 10/17/2006 6:47:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: rface

...Rush Limbaugh doesn't call that rag the "Atlanta Urinal-Constipation" for nothing....anything that comes from Max Cleland I would take with a grain of salt anyway.....


18 posted on 10/17/2006 6:47:49 AM PDT by Thunderchief F-105
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To: rface
"He's one of the most ethical men I know."

Maybe Cleland is telling the truth ... and indicting himself.

19 posted on 10/17/2006 6:48:28 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: rface
Reid forgot a million dollar windfall profit and clelland forgot his injury was the result of trying to retrieve a beer bottle rather than the result of a battle injury.

As always the dems use the extra special billclinton dictionary of the meaning of is.

20 posted on 10/17/2006 6:50:15 AM PDT by OldFriend (ANNOY THE MEDIA ~ VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Thbis Ried story stands on it's own


21 posted on 10/17/2006 6:50:19 AM PDT by digger48
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To: rface

Gee, Max, except that he also gave his condo staff christmas bonuses out of his campaign coffers (a clear violation of campaign finance rules), AND he announced he also had two other land deals he had "forgotten" to tell the Senate about.


Oh, and the problem with THIS land deal was NOT that he made money, or that he didn't disclose the deal.

The problem is that he didn't disclose a financial arrangement with another person, an arrangement which could have precipitated special treatment or favors. Senators are supposed to disclose all financial entanglements so the voters know exactly what to look at when looking for special treatment.

Since Reid hid his partnership with two other men, we couldn't check him out.


22 posted on 10/17/2006 6:51:25 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I understand he borrowed the phrase "Let's Roll!" from a true American hero to get the wagon circling started.


23 posted on 10/17/2006 6:51:42 AM PDT by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: rface

Potomic Fever - not a legend, FACT!


24 posted on 10/17/2006 6:53:39 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Truth29
He is one of the most ethical men I know

Unfortunately, this is probably a true statement. Kinda makes you wonder about all his other "aquaintances"

25 posted on 10/17/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT by Lekker 1 (("...the world will be...eleven degrees colder by the year 2000" -- K. Watt, Earth Day, 1970)
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To: rface

Max,
If Hairy Reed is the most ethical man you know, you NEED SOME NEW AND DIFFERENT FRIENDS!!!


26 posted on 10/17/2006 6:55:40 AM PDT by RdhseRat
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To: rface

The biggest questions is: Did Harry Reid pay taxes on the profit he got from getting $1.1 million for a property he bought for $400k?


27 posted on 10/17/2006 6:57:14 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: AppyPappy

28 posted on 10/17/2006 6:58:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: rface

"Harry Reid is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."


29 posted on 10/17/2006 7:00:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rface
Did he try to deliver this one directly to the president,
in his wheel chair,
with media cameras rolling?
30 posted on 10/17/2006 7:00:24 AM PDT by norton
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Oh, and the problem with THIS land deal was NOT that he made money, or that he didn't disclose the deal.

Did Reid declare the profit and pay taxes on it?

31 posted on 10/17/2006 7:00:36 AM PDT by melancholy (Now that we killed Abu Musaab Al Zarqawi, we are forced to listen to Abu John Al Murthawi.)
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To: rface
This comin' from a clown who passed himself off as some kind of war hero for the past 30 years when it actuality he has to be the dumbest soldier the Army ever produced. Hey folks, picking up a dropped live grenade while going on a beer run doesn't make you a war hero just because of your present wheel-chair-bound-stupidity!

Hey Max, if Reid is "one of the most ethical" you know; then you must know some reeeeeely slimy POS.
If any of us had pulled the RE scam Reid pulled, we would be getting visits from various and sundry state & federal alphabet agencies including the I.R.S. & F.B.I.
32 posted on 10/17/2006 7:04:06 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: rface
Republicans in Washington have no ideas for the future and no solutions to clean up their mistakes. All they have left is baseless charges.

This so called baseless charge actually began when a former Harry Reid staffer brought the shady land deal to the attention of the media. From that point on the 'Rats went into deflect the charges mode by accusing the Pubbies of orchestrating a smear campaign. This tactic use to work ... however, it's now so shop worn that even their allies in the liberal mainstream media are left rolling their eyes.

33 posted on 10/17/2006 7:04:28 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: rface

I'll be Harry is one of the most ethical men that HE knows...Reid is run-of-the-mill "ethical" for a democrat.


34 posted on 10/17/2006 7:04:40 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: rface

All is fair only when it attacks the GOP if you ask a liberal.


35 posted on 10/17/2006 7:07:17 AM PDT by truthingod
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To: listenhillary

Dick Morris was talking about this last night on H and C.

He just said Reid's son's are lobbyists who are paid to lobby him! What a nice family affair.


36 posted on 10/17/2006 7:07:35 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: rface

He is one of the most ethical men I know.

Compared to what? YOU? The other RAT Senators?
Pot -- Kettle -- Black


37 posted on 10/17/2006 7:07:42 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: rface

38 posted on 10/17/2006 7:12:54 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: I still care

Harry has it documented that family members are NOT to lobby him or his office. I think he put this in place in 2002. Sorry I can't remember where I saw this.

He's covered his bases.

But the legislation mentioned removing protected land did benefit him financially so he can't weasel out of that.


39 posted on 10/17/2006 7:12:57 AM PDT by listenhillary (Islam = Religion of peace. If you say otherwise, we'll kill you!)
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To: rface

'Technical error.' Right.


40 posted on 10/17/2006 7:13:36 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: rface

Max Clellan already has the title "official shiller for the party of shysters".


41 posted on 10/17/2006 7:13:43 AM PDT by rod1
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"This story is simple. In 1998, Reid bought land. In 2004, he sold it. For the six years in between, he told everyone — including Congress — that he owned the land."

Uh no Max. It's not "that simple".

  1. He sold the land for zero gain.
  2. However he basically sold it to himself (partnership)
  3. When he 1st owned it it was zoned residential.
  4. After he sold it 'to himself' the land was REZONED commercial. That make the land much more valuable.
  5. The rezoning attempt by the 'new owner' was at first refused.
  6. Upon appeal, the rezoning was only approved AFTER it was made perfectly clear to the zoning board that one of the owners (Partners) was - Senator Harry Reid.
  7. It was also made crystal clear that with Senator Reid as part owner, rezoning it commercial would (hint hint) be better for all concerned (no veiled threat there).
  8. Only then was the rezoning approved.
  9. Ar that point said land is sold and Dingy Harry pockets a $700K profit.
  10. There's also the tiny, legal point that said sale to himself with this alleged partnership was not in writing. Which is NOT how real estate transactions are done - unless you're trying to pull something.
So Max that's how I understand it, and it sure ain't 'that simple'.

(btw Max, wanna play some ball today? We need a 3rd base.)

42 posted on 10/17/2006 7:15:28 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Alot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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To: rface

so this is the MSM reporting on democrats.

AJC the second most irrelevant paper in the country.


43 posted on 10/17/2006 7:16:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rface

Ethical. A word that has been redefined beyond recognition by the Dem'crats, going back to the days of Jimmy Carter, supposedly more "ethical" than the damaged Gerald Ford, whose primary defect was in pardoning Richard Nixon.

When howling after Republican scalps, everything, every tactic, every utterance, no matter how much it might be "over the top", is all ethical, because the greater good, preservation and extension of Dem'crat power, is retained and extended. After all, people, this is for your own good.

And have we forgotten what was to be the "most ethical administration this country has ever known"? That's right, the regime of the "Shan" (previously known as the "Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001"). In a perserse sort of way, it was, if only because he reminded us of our better selves, by the perfectly excretable public example he made of himself. Of course, the irony of his "ethical" stand was completely lost on his partisans and sycophants, totally bedazzled by someone who would "stick it" to the Republicans.

It has been good for this country to have a working President again.


44 posted on 10/17/2006 7:17:37 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Congress is not only a legislative body, but a term for sexual intercourse." Bert Prelutsky)
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To: rface
Putting aside the delicious irony of one scum's support of another scum, I hope Pelosi and company circle the wagons and launch a cacophony of support for Reid's "innocent oversight."

After all, what better way to push and thus force a continuation of the scandal onto the unwelcome arms of a media hell-bent on shirking their purported journalistic standards?

Thanks for posting this one . . . Penny


45 posted on 10/17/2006 7:17:39 AM PDT by Penny
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I'm *so* going to hell. I laughed.


46 posted on 10/17/2006 7:18:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: rface

"I'm the most ethical person Max Cleland knows." You could get into some dark and very exclusive cellars with a password like that.


47 posted on 10/17/2006 7:21:55 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: rface

Mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, MAX.....


48 posted on 10/17/2006 7:22:25 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: rface
We've gone from "Much ado about a hairdo" to "Much ado about an asterick"

Too bad they aren't "Much ado about National Security".

49 posted on 10/17/2006 7:25:10 AM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: rface

Max Cleland and dingy Harry couldn't find ethics if it slapped them in the face like a fresh cow patty.


50 posted on 10/17/2006 7:25:29 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DBM - still trying to create a nonexistent legacy for BJ Clinton.)
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