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CDN:Hells Angel says he feels shunned (boo hoo)
CBC Canada ^ | 17 October 2006

Posted on 10/17/2006 2:44:42 PM PDT by llevrok

The president of the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels says people have been rude to him and his feelings have been hurt since the group was ruled a criminal organization by an Ontario judge last year.

In an affidavit filed in B.C. Supreme Court, Rick Ciarnello lists a number of public snubs including a couple in a restaurant who asked to be moved because they didn't want to sit next to him after he walked in wearing Hells Angels colours.

He also claims he has been treated rudely by his local supermarket staff, and he says many people are no longer friendly toward him, and instead fear him or avoid him altogether.

His lawyers say these snubs violate Ciarnello's rights under Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and they want key sections of the federal anti-gang legislation struck down.

Anti-gang laws needed, says government lawyer

Government lawyers say Ciarnello may have been inconvenienced, but deny it's any kind of attack on his constitutional rights.

Lawyer Mark Levitz, who is arguing against the Hells Angel petition on behalf of the B.C. government, argues the anti-gang legislation is needed to fight organized crime.

"There's several cases out there dealing with these issues. There's one before the B.C. Court of Appeal, one in Saskatchewan, and Ontario will be dealing with it. It's very important. Obviously the constitutionality of any part of the Criminal Code is important, particularly the criminal organization [section], it's very important."

He also says Ciarnello should be making his arguments to a judge in Ontario. That's where convicted Hells Angels are appealing the judgment that the motorcycle club is a criminal organization.

The 61-year-old Ciarnello's only criminal conviction dates back to 1971, and he's not currently facing any charges.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bikers; hellsangels; mc; rickciarnello; transmaniacon; weretransmaniaconmc
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To: llevrok
I realize it's TERRIBLY judgmental for me to say so, but perhaps Mr. Hell's Angel, if your personal identity wasn't based upon your association with a criminal organization, then the people around you wouldn't be treating you like a CRIMINAL?

I understand that personal responsibility is so 1900's, but there's a lot to be said for not blaming others for your own problems.

Just a thought, but maybe taking that piece of garbage off your back and throwing it into the dumpster where it belongs would go a long way toward gaining some of the respect you feel you deserve.
21 posted on 10/17/2006 5:24:48 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Alexander Rubin; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; ...
Thanks Alexander.

Canada ping.

Please send me a FReepmail to get on or off this Canada ping list.

22 posted on 10/17/2006 5:36:36 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Gorzaloon

LOL!


23 posted on 10/17/2006 6:15:39 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: llevrok; fanfan
The president of the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels says people have been rude to him and his feelings have been hurt since the group was ruled a criminal organization by an Ontario judge last year.

What did he expect?? The Hell's Angels are involved in criminality!

This article reminds me so much of Sinn Fein/IRA - Gerry Adams' 'feelings' are 'hurt' a lot, too....

24 posted on 10/18/2006 11:08:14 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: Gorzaloon; fanfan
They did have a Canadian Motorcycle gang named the "Heck's Angels".

Was their leader called "Phil, The Prince of Insufficient Light"? ;)


25 posted on 10/18/2006 11:13:38 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: llevrok; martin_fierro; JoeSixPack1

26 posted on 10/18/2006 11:43:02 AM PDT by BraveMan
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