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Envoy: U.S. Showed 'Stupidity' in Iraq
AP ^ | October 21, 2006

Posted on 10/21/2006 2:27:09 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

A senior U.S. diplomat said the United States had shown ''arrogance'' and ''stupidity'' in Iraq but was ready to talk with any group except Al-Qaida in Iraq to facilitate national reconciliation.

In an interview with Al-Jazeera television aired late Saturday, Alberto Fernandez, director of public diplomacy in the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs at the State Department offered an unusually candid assessment of America's war in Iraq.

''We tried to do our best but I think there is much room for criticism because, undoubtedly, there was arrogance and there was stupidity from the United States in Iraq,'' he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; statedepartment
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1 posted on 10/21/2006 2:27:09 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

So long, Al.


2 posted on 10/21/2006 2:28:07 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bring me his head.


3 posted on 10/21/2006 2:28:26 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
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To: West Coast Conservative
State Department echoes Democrat-Drive By Media Talking Points.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 10/21/2006 2:28:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative

More treason from the State Department.


5 posted on 10/21/2006 2:29:45 PM PDT by balch3
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bye Al. The only arrogance and stupidity displayed here is the rabid old Know Nothings who fail to grasp their Do Nothing Ever dogma DIED on 09-11-01


6 posted on 10/21/2006 2:30:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Team player. Fire him yesterday.


7 posted on 10/21/2006 2:31:10 PM PDT by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Civil servants can hold such viewpoints and certainly should share them with the politicians, but going public on this...no sorry...not right. He needs sacking.


8 posted on 10/21/2006 2:31:52 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: West Coast Conservative

Is there really a Republican administration in this country? If we are truly serious, shouldn't the Secretary of State knock a few heads over this?


9 posted on 10/21/2006 2:31:56 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: West Coast Conservative
Alberto Fernandez, director of public diplomacy

Alberto...living proof of the Peter principle.

10 posted on 10/21/2006 2:32:09 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: West Coast Conservative

CNN = Communists News Network!!!!
CBS = Communists BULL Sh*t!!!!
ABC = ALL BULLSH*T COMMUNISTS!!!!
NBC = NOTHING BUT COMMUNISTS!!!!
CNBC = COMMUNISTS, NOTHING BUT COMMUNISTS!!!!
MSNBC = MATTHEWS SUCKS NOTHING BUT COMMUNISTS!!!!
CSPAN-1 = Communists Socialists Pandering *ssholes Network #1.
CSPAN-2 = Communists Socialists Pandering *ssholes Network #2

The demoCommiecRATic Party, the MSM(Including CNN), the New York Times (Correction: SLIMES) and Reuters....known 5th columnists....communists, socialists, terrorists and enemy's friends....terrorists lovers....the demoCommiecRATic Party, the MSM(including CNN), the New York SLIMES (Times) and Reuters performs fellatio with our enemies....the demoCommiecRATic Party, the MSM(including CNN), the New York Slimes and Reuters loves every communists, socialists, terrorists around....the New York SLIMES (Times) and Reuters....commie trash rags!!!!:-(

The MSM's, the MSM(including CNN), the New York Slimes (Times), Reuters and the demoCommiecRATic Party's friends:

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html (Nancy Pelosi's organization)

democratic socialist members in Congress:

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/dsa_members.htm

from this search:

http://www.google.com/search?q=bernie.house.gov%2Fpc%2Fmembers.asp&client=netscape-pp&rls=com.netscape:en-US "

This IS why we cannot let the 'RATS win in November!!!!


Fair Weather wichever way the wind blows FOX including Mr. whichever way the wind blows O'Reilly sometimes Rocks.

The Mighty MAJA RUSHIE, Rush Limbaugh, Rules the Airwaves and FRee Republic IS the Best NEWS Network!!!!:-)

D2


11 posted on 10/21/2006 2:32:51 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I only had to read as far as where it said that this was an interview with AL-JAZEERA~!!!,..ugh


12 posted on 10/21/2006 2:35:00 PM PDT by Txsleuth (EVERYONE VOTE---AND VOTE REPUBLICAN,...even if you have to hold your nose!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Ali al Fernandez...


13 posted on 10/21/2006 2:36:17 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This guy needs to loose his job pronto!


14 posted on 10/21/2006 2:36:22 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: West Coast Conservative
In an interview with Al-Jazeera television

That's as far as I had to go to realize that this A-Hole was a Jimmah Carter kissing cousin, turncoat RAT.

"OUR" State Dept: "Giving Aid And Comfort (as well as engaging in the occasional case of outright Treason)to our Enemy for the past 65-70 years."

15 posted on 10/21/2006 2:36:38 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist ("INFIDEL AND PROUD OF IT.")
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To: West Coast Conservative
Let's see what Condi does about this.

My prediction: ABSOLUTELY, NOTHING!!!!!

16 posted on 10/21/2006 2:37:55 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist ("INFIDEL AND PROUD OF IT.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

A senior U.S. diplomat



Poor Al got confused and was acting as a World Diplomat. Does the US employ any "diplomats" that have allegiance to the US firstly????


17 posted on 10/21/2006 2:37:56 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: tsmith130
Alberto...living proof of the Peter principle.

Mr. Fernandez was born in Havana, Cuba in 1958 and arrived in the United States as a refugee in 1959.

He served in the US Army and Reserves from 1976 to 1981.

A graduate of the U.S. Army Intelligence School at Ft. Huachuca, he studied Arabic at the Defense Language Institute-Foreign Language Center from 1976 to 1977.

From 1977 to 1979, he served in the 519th Military Intelligence Batallion/18th Military Intelligence Group/18th Airborne Corps in Ft. Bragg, North Carolina.

He graduated from the University of Arizona in 1981 with a B.A. in Middle East Studies. In 1983, he obtained an M.A. in Middle East Studies from the University of Arizona.

Mr. Fernandez has received several departmental awards including a Superior Honor Award in 2003 for his work in Afghanistan, Senior Foreign Service Performance Pay for 2003, 2 Sustained Superior Performance Awards, several Group Meritorious and Superior Honor Awards and USIA’s Linguist of the Year Award for 1996

18 posted on 10/21/2006 2:39:14 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: West Coast Conservative

The State Department is filled with Arabists who are never wrong. It's always America who is in the wrong.


19 posted on 10/21/2006 2:42:27 PM PDT by OldFriend (CNN CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF OUR HEROES)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Oh, screw this jerk.

Go talk to Mookie Sadr, Al. He's not al Qaeda. I'm sure he'll invite you in for a cup of chaee and a cozy chat.

20 posted on 10/21/2006 2:47:43 PM PDT by Allegra (Super Elastic Bubble Plastic!)
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To: OldFriend; cardinal4

A friend of mine at the Embassy in Jeddah in 1981 said that almost all the senior staff there were suffering from "clientitis." This guy, a former Air Force officer, was one of the few there that seemed to be immune from that dread disease. I'm sure cardinal4 knows of whom I am speaking.


21 posted on 10/21/2006 2:48:52 PM PDT by Ax (Go Tigers!!! American League Champions.)
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To: Doe Eyes

Wesley Clark has a pretty impressive resume too. As did George McClellan.. I guess resumes aren't everything though.


22 posted on 10/21/2006 2:58:25 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: West Coast Conservative

Spose he even gts fired?


23 posted on 10/21/2006 3:01:09 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Trying to be humble and self-effacing? Idiot! It will not play well with that audience who will see it as weakness.

LBT
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24 posted on 10/21/2006 3:02:09 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: Defender2

Blimey! Whatever you're on, I'll try a gram or two..


25 posted on 10/21/2006 3:09:51 PM PDT by CathyC (A girl; half Irish, half Jewish. The jokes? I've heard them all before. xx)
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To: tsmith130
Alberto...living proof of the Peter principle.

Just a WAG (wild a$$ guess) but I bet old Alberto is in favor of an open southern border.

Fire his sorry A$$.

26 posted on 10/21/2006 3:10:25 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: West Coast Conservative

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/3376

"...On April 22, 2006, the Financial Times reported on the creation of an “Iran Syria Operations Group” (ISOG) that purportedly reports to [Elizabeth] Cheney. Adam Ereli, a State Department spokesman, denied the group existed. However, other unnamed sources, including U.S. government officials and a European diplomat, assured the Financial Times that the group had in fact been established. These sources said that the group is an interagency effort that “is supposed to coordinate with the Pentagon and other departments,” and that it is headed by “David Denehy, a special adviser who served in the coalition government in Iraq, and Alberto Fernandez, a public diplomacy official.”
...According to Kaplan, these officials said that the ISOG “has no role to play on security issues, doesn't coordinate at all with White House efforts against Iran at the United Nations, and confines itself to promoting regime change from within.” "

Alberto hasn't got to worry about his job, his real job that is


27 posted on 10/21/2006 3:10:59 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: arthurus
I think this guy should be sent to the very front units in Iraq, there to function as a "special observer." Hand the man an M-16 and tell him he's responsible for his own wellbeing. Buh-bye!
28 posted on 10/21/2006 3:12:23 PM PDT by toddst
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To: balch3

It is sickening. It didn't start during this President's watch, but it sure is bad now. Wasn't one of McCarthy's charges that the State Dept was full of Communists? Seems the place has been a mess for 50 years. It makes me so mad.


29 posted on 10/21/2006 3:12:36 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: PghBaldy

Unfortunately, this goes way back. The MSM as well as the demoCmmiecRATic party and several independants and Mr. Barney Frank, illegitmate Republican, have been trending this way for quite some time now. If McCarthy were alive, he would have proof to a lot of the charges he made. What's really bad is they have become openly brazen about it now, partly because of what is being taught in the education system now.


30 posted on 10/21/2006 3:20:26 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Foggy Bottom was ALWAYS known for the propensity to turn brains to feces...

The stripped suited "elites" have long been a public running joke for "incompetent boobs" who usually "go native" within a couple of years of being posted in some Turd World consulate...

Very impressionable, constantly forgetting who they are representing...

Semper Fi
31 posted on 10/21/2006 3:26:40 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: CathyC

#25. Just spouting the unadulterated TRUTH, CathyC.

I've been o to these jokers for years now, and they know I'm their worst enemy. And I have fought for this Nation, and they cannot stand the fact that I DO fight ALL enemies of our Beloved United States, Both Foreign AND DOMESTIC and they cannot stand that!!!! AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO!!!!

:-)

D2


32 posted on 10/21/2006 3:27:53 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
In an interview with Al-Jazeera television

Scumbag traitor. It's bad enough to say this at all, but to say it on Al-Jazeera is unforgiveable.

33 posted on 10/21/2006 3:31:48 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: CathyC

Here's another acronym for you:

BBC = Bill's Bullsh*t Communists!!!!

D2


34 posted on 10/21/2006 3:55:30 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
As my Uncle Sam said.....

"Bring me the head of that A'HOLE, Alberto Fernandez!

35 posted on 10/21/2006 3:57:34 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Clark got his last star frm slick willie for assisting in the raid on the Branch Dividians. A deed that was clearly against our laws.


36 posted on 10/21/2006 4:11:17 PM PDT by OldFriend (CNN CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF OUR HEROES)
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To: PghBaldy
Think Tony Lake when you think of the State Dept. Just check him out on google. Have your blood pressure meds at the ready.

Much of slick willie's inner circle had been buried at the state dept. by jimmy carter.

37 posted on 10/21/2006 4:13:04 PM PDT by OldFriend (CNN CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF OUR HEROES)
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To: Cicero

Was the interview in English, or is this a translation from Arabic, in which Mr. Fernandez is fluent. He's been around too long to use these words - or so I hope.


38 posted on 10/21/2006 4:33:09 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: pacpam

Just read the article and he was speaking in Arabic by phone from the U.S. This may get interesting from a different angle.


39 posted on 10/21/2006 4:34:46 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: West Coast Conservative

State is full of 5th columnists actively underming US policy. Basically, they view themselves as an autonomous kingdom. And no surprise that the NYT is pushing this.


40 posted on 10/21/2006 4:47:54 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: West Coast Conservative

Regardless of what is being said on this thread, I firmly believe post-war planning was horrible at first. You would have to be fairly blind not to see that. To deny it is stupidity. Mistakes were made, the Admin is only human, and it shows. If only someone would come out and admit it instead of pretending everything went 100% correctly.

Now I have to put on some protective pants so I don't get injured during the humping. Just wait and see.


41 posted on 10/21/2006 4:54:13 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: West Coast Conservative

Give him a fair trial, then hang him for Treason.


42 posted on 10/21/2006 5:04:03 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
Now I have to put on some protective pants so I don't get injured during the humping. Just wait and see.

Nah...its just time for another "Shock and Awe."

The theater has changed so we need to make our adjustments...and those adjustments need to be colossal.
43 posted on 10/21/2006 5:38:06 PM PDT by hummingbird (Bloggers killed the Media Stars.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Man, these turds sure do come out of the woodwork all at once, don't they?


44 posted on 10/21/2006 5:57:04 PM PDT by World_Events
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To: Doe Eyes

Well, he's went over to "The Dark Side".
He follows the State Dept. Commie line:" Let's be nice--and they will be nice".


45 posted on 10/21/2006 6:21:04 PM PDT by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Heh Al, I heard of this website on the radio that might be of use to you:

www.mynextjob.com

If they can't help you, try www.monster.com, they, or their owners, seem to be aligned with your thinking, from what I've heard.


46 posted on 10/21/2006 8:06:07 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: West Coast Conservative
"We are witnessing failure in Iraq and that's not the failure of the United States alone but it is a disaster for the region. Failure in Iraq will be a failure for the United States but a disaster for the region."

The diplomat's job is to represent the United States, not himself. Whatever his personal opinions are, he should not say we are "witnessing failure" in Iraq. It does nothing to improve the image of the US, it only reinforces a negative image. This guy really needs to lose his job. Actually, it almost sounds as if he did this as a resume booster hoping to take over Olbermann/Couric/Dean/etc.'s job.

47 posted on 10/21/2006 8:42:17 PM PDT by faq
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To: Doe Eyes

Mr. Fernandez ...
He served in the US Army and Reserves from 1976 to 1981.

A graduate of the U.S. Army Intelligence School at Ft. Huachuca, he studied Arabic at the Defense Language Institute-Foreign Language Center from 1976 to 1977.

From 1977 to 1979, he served in the 519th Military Intelligence Batallion/18th Military Intelligence Group/18th Airborne Corps in Ft. Bragg, North Carolina.

He graduated from the University of Arizona in 1981 with a B.A. in Middle East Studies. In 1983, he obtained an M.A. in Middle East Studies from the University of Arizona.

Mr. Fernandez has received several departmental awards including a Superior Honor Award in 2003 for his work in Afghanistan, Senior Foreign Service Performance Pay for 2003, 2 Sustained Superior Performance Awards, several Group Meritorious and Superior Honor Awards and USIA’s Linguist of the Year Award for 1996

So what? He could be the best brown-noser of the year and it doesn't change the fact that he should be canned immediately for what he said. If any person working for any employer in this country went out and badmouthed said employer, that employee would be canned in a heartbeat. Why should this person be treated differently?
48 posted on 10/21/2006 10:19:21 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: West Coast Conservative
The deafening mindless roar of Leftist propaganda never ceases, it seems.

Here we see another piece of pro-terrorist propaganda.

The Left insists on defining reality for all of us. Any dissidence is consigned to the wastebasket. The Left insists that we believe that reality is what ever they insist we believe.

People fall for Left BS everywhere. I see it every day. I watch propaganda vomit forth from the mass media in a never ceasing torrent. I watch people internalize, come to believe, such obvious lies.

If this is Democracy then heaven help us.
49 posted on 10/22/2006 5:26:51 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: Doe Eyes

An educated fool, in other words.


50 posted on 10/22/2006 6:58:57 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( I predict a victory for Republicans that will make Dims remember 1994 as a very good year for them.)
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