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America 2050: A Nation of Turtles
HumanEventsOnline ^ | October 20, 2006 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 10/21/2006 4:13:13 PM PDT by NapkinUser

Does it matter who was the 300 millionth "American"? Indeed, it does.

If it was a baby born to an American, that is wonderful news. If it was a baby born to an illegal alien, it means we have lost control of our borders. And as Ronald Reagan said, a country that can't control its borders isn't really a country anymore.

And if it was a Mexican who slipped over the Rio Grande in the early morning darkness of Oct. 17, it may be a harbinger of the end of America as we knew her.

If the people are not celebrating the 300 million along with the editorial writers, it is because there is a strong likelihood the individual added to our number is not an American at all, and because the extraordinary growth of the American family was not the free choice of the American people.

We have 300 million here today only because the government of the United States refuses to enforce our immigration laws and the people were misled or lied to when the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed.

Who was the chairman of the subcommittee that conducted the hearings? Edward M. Kennedy. And what did Sen. Kennedy promise? Here are his own words of four decades ago:

"(O)ur cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same. ... The ethnic mix of this country will not be upset. ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S. 500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any other country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia."

Only haters would make such assertions, Kennedy thundered. "The charges I have mentioned are highly emotional, irrational and with little foundation in fact. They are out of line with the obligations of responsible citizenship. They breed hate of our heritage."

How good were the senator's assurances?

Today, we have 36 million immigrants and their children here, some 90 percent from Third World nations whose peoples have never before been assimilated into a First World nation. A third, 12 million, are here in violation of our laws.

Most of those coming now are poor and uneducated, and are unable to speak our language. Some do not wish to become Americans. But they are sending our crime, poverty and disease rates skyward, and pulling U.S. academic scores down toward Third World levels.

But what is most significant about these deep and irreversible alterations in the character of the nation is that the American people never voted for it and do not want it. It is being imposed from above, anti-democratically, by a regime that refuses to enforce our laws and is now at virtual war with the American people.

Though immigration is the hottest domestic issue in 2006, and every candidate in a close race is taking a hard line on border security -- even Hillary Clinton voted for 700 miles of security fence -- the will of the people is ignored. According to a poll released Monday by The Center for Immigration Studies, 68 percent of Americans say immigration is too high. Only 2 percent believe it is too low. Yet the McCain-Kennedy-Bush bill would have granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens and doubled the number of legal immigrants.

The failure to restrict immigration so the Melting Pot can work, the refusal to seal the border despite what America wants, suggests ours has ceased to be a democratic republic. "Here, sir, the people rule!" used to be a proud boast. Today, the line is laughable.

In my book "State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America," I projected that by 2050, every city in America would look like Los Angeles, and Los Angeles and the cities of the Southwest would look like Mexico City.

And what is happening to Los Angeles? According to Robert Putnam, Harvard political scientist and author of "Bowling Alone," the trust among people in "this most diverse human habitation in human history" is now at rock bottom, the lowest anywhere he could find.

"In the presence of diversity," said Putnam, "we hunker down. We act like turtles. The effect of diversity is worse than had been imagined. And it's not just that we don't trust people who are not like us. In diverse communities we don't trust people who look like us."

The more people of different races that live in a community, the greater the loss of trust, said Putnam. "They don't trust the local mayor, they don't trust the local paper, they don't trust other people, and they don't trust institutions. ... The only thing there is more of is protest marches and TV watching."

Welcome to the Brave New World our elites are creating for our children, as they consign the America we grew up in to the compost heap of history.


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KEYWORDS: buchanan; buchananeditorial; immigration; patbuchanan
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1 posted on 10/21/2006 4:13:14 PM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: NapkinUser

In before the "Buchanan's a Nazi! Buchanan's off his meds! Go Pat go - to Hell!" and other assorted ad-hominems from the Pat bashers.


2 posted on 10/21/2006 4:20:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: NapkinUser

You can't dispute the truth.


3 posted on 10/21/2006 4:28:21 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza

The Pat Buchanan hates can and will.


4 posted on 10/21/2006 4:30:17 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.org/)
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To: NapkinUser

Are the 13 or so million illegals counted in this 300 million?

If not, the total should be around 287 million!


5 posted on 10/21/2006 4:30:30 PM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: NapkinUser
You mean the person that brings diesel fumes, Jose the food grower & Ted Bundy into every immigration argument?
6 posted on 10/21/2006 4:35:49 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: NapkinUser

"You can't dispute the truth."

That's my post, and I'm sticking to it.


7 posted on 10/21/2006 4:37:00 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: Rick Deckard

Three guesses who that is, and the first two don't count.


8 posted on 10/21/2006 4:38:42 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza

A registered Democrat from the Keystone State?


9 posted on 10/21/2006 4:41:03 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: Rick Deckard

No, actually I was referring to a poster on Free Republic.


10 posted on 10/21/2006 5:08:41 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza
So was I. I'm sure we're thinking of the same person.

I don't agree with a lot of Buchanan's positions, but the point about the Immigration Act of 1965 rings true. Every time I read Ted "Fatboy" Kennedy's comments about how nothing is going to change because of the act, I get angry. Why that liar is still in office confounds me.
11 posted on 10/21/2006 5:20:25 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: Rick Deckard

Teddy "the swimmer" Kennedy is a POS, always was, always will be. He cares about nothing but himself. It amazes me how "people" re-elect him year after year, after year. Stupidity rules, I guess.


12 posted on 10/21/2006 5:26:54 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: Rick Deckard; FReepapalooza
A registered Democrat from the Keystone State?

No, actually I was referring to a poster on Free Republic.

So was I. I'm sure we're thinking of the same person.

You two are talking about the same FReeper. I didn't know he/she is a resident of Pennsylvania, but I did know he/she is a registered democrat, Buchanan and Tancredo hater, irrational and repeats himself/herself often. Also supports a guest worker amnesty and talks often about "Jose the fruit picker" and "Alberto the roofer" (not exact terms, but close.)

13 posted on 10/21/2006 5:50:57 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.org/)
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To: NapkinUser

The he/she part is correct as well as the other points.
Wierd.


14 posted on 10/21/2006 5:53:21 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: NapkinUser
talks often about "Jose the fruit picker" and "Alberto the roofer"

Yea, but he never talks about the dead cops, molested kids, or raped and beaten women his innocent little fruit pickers seem to leave in their wakes.

L

15 posted on 10/21/2006 5:54:42 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What's there to hate in this article? Pat isn't like you and me, but for the most part he's right about this issue.


16 posted on 10/21/2006 5:56:20 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Would you like to join the OFFICIAL Oakland Raiders ping list? Sure you would, send me freepmail.)
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To: Lurker
"Yea, but he never talks about the dead cops, molested kids, or raped and beaten women his innocent little fruit pickers seem to leave in their wakes."

But what about Ted Bundy & Jeffery Dahmer? Sorry...I couldn't help myself.


17 posted on 10/21/2006 6:04:18 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: Rick Deckard
Funny..he never seems to mention this creep:

L

18 posted on 10/21/2006 6:10:51 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: NapkinUser

It's a shame, but many posters are hesitant in posting their true feelings for fear of being banned.


19 posted on 10/21/2006 6:36:41 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza
It's a shame, but many posters are hesitant in posting their true feelings for fear of being banned.

You mean in regards to immigration, Pat Buchanan or he/she-who-shall-not-be-named?

20 posted on 10/21/2006 6:48:12 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.org/)
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To: NapkinUser

The first two, the third, everyone does. lol


21 posted on 10/21/2006 7:15:35 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: NapkinUser
I come here mostly to learn & not to argue with people I generally agree with. I find that "he/she-who-shall-not-be-named" to be more amusing than irritating nowadays.

In the long run, there are bigger fish to fry.
22 posted on 10/21/2006 7:22:18 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: Rick Deckard

You know who we mean. lol, We know what you mean, you are one of many.


23 posted on 10/21/2006 7:28:36 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza
"he/she-who-shall-not-be-named"?


24 posted on 10/21/2006 7:39:09 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: NapkinUser
America 2050:

Is most likely to look like this:

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25 posted on 10/21/2006 8:09:31 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: NapkinUser
"We have 300 million here today only because the government of the United States refuses to enforce our immigration laws and the people were misled or lied to when the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed."

Wrong Pat, we have 300 million today, rather than say a decade ago, because the government legalized the killing of the unbrn in the name of "choice."

By the way...someone needs to gently tap Pat on the shoulder, and remind him that the calculation used to arrive at this figure of 300 million AMERICANS did not take into account illegal aliens on the soil, any more than it did tourists.

Pat's irelevant.

26 posted on 10/21/2006 8:28:36 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Buchanan smells like an old antisemitic shoe.
27 posted on 10/21/2006 8:31:43 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Lurker

Awww...do the regular 'mericans kill no cops, molest kids, or rape women?

Or are you only pissed off about the one killed, molested, and raped the fruit pickers?

Point me to the segment of the population free of cop killers, child molesters and rapists.

That line of yours is so old.


28 posted on 10/21/2006 8:31:52 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That line of yours is so old.

And yours is complete bullsh**.

We have enough thieves, murderers, rapists, and child molesters of our own to deal with. We aren't Mexicos garbage dump.

Apparently you do think we have enough thieves, murderers, rapists, etc and they need to be imported from any 2nd world open toilet that happens to share a border with us.

Thanks but no thanks.

Mexicos garbage should stay in Mexico.

L

29 posted on 10/21/2006 8:34:36 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker

Every race, every nationality, every religion, every age has killers, rapists, and child molesters.

You can try using that bull$hit line on the rubes, but it don't play with the rest.

We weren't Italy's garbage dump, but the mobsters came anyway...we didn't qualify all Italians based on the actions of their riff raff.

Thank God people like you did not qualify MY people based on the actions of the garbage Fidel dumped on our shores under Carter.


30 posted on 10/21/2006 8:44:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Awww...do the regular 'mericans kill no cops

Explain your position to this guy:

But you're going to have to talk really, really loud. Some piece of trash here illegally shot him in the head during a traffic stop.

Unless of course you're actually going to try to make the lame ass argument that if a piece of Mexicos garbage hadn't killed him, some American would have.

Then there's this piece of filth:

I'm sure the 8 people he murdered would all have been whacked by other Americans if he'd only stayed in Mexico where he belonged.

But what the hell is a few dead Americans when you've got tomatoes you need picked. A few corpses is a small price to pay to put some dollars in the pockets of your friends.

L

31 posted on 10/21/2006 8:46:26 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Every race, every nationality, every religion, every age has killers, rapists, and child molesters.

So you're actually suggesting we import them. Amazing.

We weren't Italy's garbage dump, but the mobsters came anyway...

We deported a bunch of them, too.

Thank God people like you did not qualify MY people based on the actions of the garbage Fidel dumped on our shores under Carter.

Your people benefited from the "Cuban One Foot Law".

You can try using that bull$hit line on the rubes, but it don't play with the rest.

Tell it to Officer Johnsons widow and kids pal.

L

32 posted on 10/21/2006 8:49:26 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker
Inasmuch as conventional theories of crime and incarceration predict higher rates for young adult males from ethnic minority groups with lower educational attainment — characteristics which describe a much greater proportion of the foreign-born population than of the native born — it follows that immigrants would be expected to have higher incarceration rates than natives. And immigrant Mexican men — who comprise fully a third of all immigrant men between 18 and 39, and who have the lowest levels of education — would be expected to have the highest rates.

Data from the 5 percent Public Use Microsample (PUMS) of the 2000 census were used to measure the institutionalization rates of immigrants and natives, focusing on males 18 to 39, most of whom are in correctional facilities. Of the 45.2 million males age 18 to 39, three percent were in federal or state prisons or local jails at the time of the 2000 census — a total of over 1.3 million, in line with official prison statistics at that time.

Surprisingly, at least from the vantage of conventional wisdom, the data show the above hypotheses to be unfounded. In fact, the incarceration rate of the US born (3.51 percent) was four times the rate of the foreign born (0.86 percent). The foreign-born rate was half the 1.71 percent rate for non-Hispanic white natives, and 13 times less than the 11.6 percent incarceration rate for native black men (see Table 1). Source.


33 posted on 10/21/2006 8:52:59 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Lurker

Would the widow Johnson be happier if her husband had been killed by a native-born, tenth generation hoodlum, as it is the case with 99% of every LEO killed in the line of duty?

Or are we supposed to feel less for the other officers and more for Officer Johnson becase you dislike Mexican killers more than you dislike your own?

Playing for the emotional vote?

I would have thought that to be below you.


34 posted on 10/21/2006 8:55:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Would the widow Johnson be happier

You're actually suggesting that Officer Johnson would have been killed by someone else. Truly amazing.

you dislike Mexican killers more than you dislike your own?

I dislike anyone who murders. I especially dislike murderers who are here in this country illegally. Apparently importing murderers is ok with you.

Sad.

Playing for the emotional vote?

I'm not playing. Apparently you don't think we have enough dead cops and think we need to bring in trash from other countries to up the numbers.

I would have thought that to be below you.

You don't seem to think at all.

L

35 posted on 10/21/2006 9:00:50 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker
"We deported a bunch of them, too."

Please, Lucky Luciano worked for the Federal government...what about the widows of the cops killed by his mob?

Was he deported?

He should have been executed.

36 posted on 10/21/2006 9:00:51 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Lurker
"Apparently importing murderers is ok with you."

Actually, the only apparent thing here is that you seem to object more to being killed by a non-native, than by a native...I object to both, and unlike you, I don't place less weight on the crime of murder based on the nationality or immigration status of the killer.

37 posted on 10/21/2006 9:03:29 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I'm sure if Resendez hadn't done it, some American would have clubbed and shotgunned Mr. Morber and his daughter to death.

I'm sure if Resendez hadn't done it, some American would have shoved a gardening implement into Mrs. Konvickas skull.

I'm sure if Resendez hadn't done it, some American would have raped and clubbed to death Miss Domingeuz.

Yep. No doubt about it. All these people would be dead anyway. God wanted them dead and Resendez just happened to be His instrument. Yea, that's the ticket.

L

38 posted on 10/21/2006 9:06:28 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Lucky Luciano worked for the Federal government

Luciano was deported in 1946. Get your facts straight.

L

39 posted on 10/21/2006 9:08:24 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I don't place less weight on the crime of murder based on the nationality or immigration status of the killer

You sure don't seem to have much of a problem with those murderers being in this country illegally. But hey, getting those tomatoes picked...now that's what's important.

Too bad about all those dead people. Well that's just the price you pay for cheap vegetables these days. As long as your friends are making money, that's what matters.

Right old buddy?

L

40 posted on 10/21/2006 9:10:15 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker
I'll deal with Office Johnson as soon as I am done explaining to Officer Briggs' kids that I'm supposed to be more upset about Johnson than about him, because after all...he was killed by a native-born hoodlum.


Michael Briggs leaves behind a wife and two sons.

Michael Addison
Michael Addison of Manchester is charged with Briggs' murder.

Tell me...am I supposed to feel LESS for Officer Briggs and his family?

You seem to think I should.

41 posted on 10/21/2006 9:12:47 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Lurker
"You sure don't seem to have much of a problem with those murderers being in this country illegally."

Making sh%t up because you're running out of arguments?

What I have a preoblem with is people who use emotion-based, BS arguments to make a point...like you and Democrats do.

42 posted on 10/21/2006 9:14:22 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: NapkinUser

It's still "turtles, all the way down."


43 posted on 10/21/2006 9:15:25 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
am I supposed to feel LESS for Officer Briggs and his family?

Nope.

Like I said, we'll just put Luis in the "It's More Important For My Pals To Make Money Hiring Illegals Than It Is To Stop Thugs And Murderers From Entering American Illegally" column.

Now go tell the Widow Johnson that her husband was just the price we pay so your pals can get their crops picked.

L

44 posted on 10/21/2006 9:16:16 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker

Want to make a bet?

You post pictures of all people killed by illegal aliens, and I'll post pictures of people killed by the native born and let's see whether yours are more dead than mine.

I'll start with Tim McVeigh's victims' pictures...that'll keep me busy for a while.

Your point is an absurd one.


45 posted on 10/21/2006 9:17:04 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Lurker

Naw...that's wrong.

It's you who should be in a column.

You would headline the "it's less important to remember you if you were murdered by a native born thug, but if I can use your murder in order to forward my political agenda regarding illegal aliens, then your death becomes important."

I don't give a rat's ass who kills another human being...they're scum.

They're no less scum if their forebears landed on the Mayflower, than if they crossed the Rio Grande last night.


46 posted on 10/21/2006 9:20:22 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Your point is an absurd one.

I'll tell you what. You post all your pictures, and I'll post mine.

Then we'll do some simple arithmetic. We'll subtract my number from your number.

That's how many Americans would still be alive if they hadn't been killed by illegals.

But what the Hell is a few extra dead Americans when you've got friends who need their crops picked. We wouldn't want to cut in to their profits now would we.

Sorry about that Mrs. Johnson. Your husband is dead and your kids are fatherless because guys like Luis think cheap tomatos are more important. I'm sure you understand.

L

47 posted on 10/21/2006 9:20:38 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Nothing new here. Google "Thomas Nast Irish" images.

Here's one:


http://www.greatcaricatures.com/articles_galleries/nast/html/1871_0902_irish.html


48 posted on 10/21/2006 9:22:41 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
...they're scum.

They're scum who don't belong here. They're scum who never should have been here in the first place.

That little fact seems to escape your attention.

But as I said, getting your friends tomatoes picked is what's really important. But rather than pay a few more bucks to get them picked, it's better to break the law and hire illegals.

Never mind those bodies piling up in the morgue...

L

49 posted on 10/21/2006 9:25:16 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there, biting the heads off whippets...)
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To: Lurker

You simply want to use the bodies piling up in the morgue that suit your agenda, while ignoring the ones that don't.

How sad for the dead that don't suit your agenda.


50 posted on 10/21/2006 9:27:50 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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