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Americans orchestrating own doom
Scripps Howard News Service ^ | 10/22/6 | DALE MCFEATTERS

Posted on 10/21/2006 10:38:35 PM PDT by SmithL

The dispatches arrived in a bunch and pointed too much to the same conclusion to be coincidence. The conclusion: We're doomed. And it's not al-Qaida doing us in. We're doing it to ourselves.

In what is surely the tip of the social iceberg, a New England grade school has joined schools across the country in prohibiting the kids from playing tag at recess.

Touch football is also banned. The schools are growingly - and legitimately - fearful of lawsuits over playground accidents by litigious parents. Seesaws and jungle gyms have long since disappeared from playgrounds.

But there is probably more at work here than just fear of the courtroom: the kids' feelings. Remember a few years ago when the schools started banning dodge ball? The problem was, dodge ball was exclusionary, the point being to knock people out of the game at great risk to their positive self-image.

The problem of unsupervised games and skinned knees may be self-solving because surveys show recesses are shriveling, with the schools arguing they need that time to prepare their students for the tests mandated by the No Child Left Behind Act.

So how's that working out?

Not so hot, according to a Brookings Institution study. It found that, while American eighth-graders professed enjoyment of math and confidence in their math skills, they didn't perform as well as foreign eighth-graders, who were not so happy and confident.

Summed up one account: "Even the least confident students in Singapore outscored the most confident Americans."

Countries like the United States that teach math by trying to relate it to daily life using real-life examples have the worst scores. There's a two-word explanation for that: binomial theorem. When was the last time you had occasion in daily life to use that basic first step in introductory algebra? The more math you learn, the more remote it is from real life.

The final threads of this tapestry of doom came together when the Associated Press filed a story about an NFL program to help combat the epidemic of childhood obesity, a condition caused in part, the experts say, by a lack of exercise like, oh, say, playing tag or dodge ball.

The program aims to work physical activity into the classroom. Reported the AP:

"New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning dropped by a Manhattan public school this week where he showed eighth-graders how to add some exercise to their math class. He had them perform squats, then count their own heart rates for 15 seconds and multiply by four to calculate their heartbeats per minute."

So here we have eighth-graders - 13-year-olds - being challenged to count into the double digits and then multiply that number by four.

A science lesson would teach the dangers of cholesterol and the importance of healthy hearts by having the kids play - get this - tag. Imagine what it will do to the self-esteem of an eighth-grader who in a classroom game of tag is chosen to be cholesterol, heart-clogging fat.

We will ask ourselves how we got to be so fat and stupid. And the answer will come: Education.

We're doomed.

Indeed, the descendants of the flinty New Englanders who chased the British redcoats from Lexington Green and Concord Bridge back to Boston are prohibited from playing all unsupervised "chasing games."

There is likely some advantage in approaching a difficult task with humility and trepidation, but we do lead the world, however, in instilling self-esteem.

If you're really good, there are only about five other people in the world you can talk to, and none of them, very likely, is a Singaporean eighth-grader.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: selfesteem; shakespearewasright
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1 posted on 10/21/2006 10:38:36 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
"in instilling self-esteem"

As a right, rather than something that is earned.

2 posted on 10/21/2006 10:44:19 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SmithL

When the pussification of America is complete, I'll be like Stallone in "Demolition Man". The one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind.


3 posted on 10/21/2006 10:47:07 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: sageb1
Jay Leno had a funny observation about the abrupt end to the game of tag.

Imagine the self esteem of the poor b*stard that was the last one tagged "IT".

HE/SHE must go thru the rest of their lives being "IT".

4 posted on 10/21/2006 10:48:26 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Spirochete

>>When the pussification of America is complete, I'll be like Stallone in "Demolition Man". The one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind.<<

You mean in that future world were 'CONTACT SPORTS' have been banned because they are too agressive - -

That future was described by the character played by Wesley Snipes as a "pussy-whipped [faggot], Brady Bunch version of itself"

The word: faggot, was in the movie when it was first released in theaters, then it was edited out .


5 posted on 10/21/2006 10:55:43 PM PDT by marc costanzo (The Only Good Liberal is Dead Liberal, Pure and Simple ! ! !)
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To: DCPatriot
"HE/SHE must go thru the rest of their lives being "IT"."

And my reply would be...."Get over IT." ;)

6 posted on 10/21/2006 10:56:44 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SmithL
Indeed, the descendants of the flinty New Englanders who chased the British redcoats from Lexington Green and Concord Bridge back to Boston are prohibited from playing all unsupervised "chasing games."

What kind of panty-waist kids are we raising these days? Heck, our ancestors are getting more exercise than the kids these days, from all the spinning they're doing in their graves!

Home-schooling is looking better all the time.

7 posted on 10/21/2006 11:00:35 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: SmithL
This has been going on for some time. Sad state of affairs, but it is all part of a bigger plan. Make the population fat, lazy, and well in effect stupid but have a sense of high importance so that they may be strung around like a brutish oaf, to do the malevolent, much more charismatic and intelligent, individual's bidding.
8 posted on 10/21/2006 11:06:04 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (im on ur thread, replyng to ur topix)
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To: SmithL
I love articles like this because they're so true - at least in a sense. We can point fingers at the unions and liberals for watering down education in this country, and we'd be mostly correct, but at the end of the day WE ALL are to blame.

Our past, the blood, sweat and tears of our forefathers, who only tried to "make a better life" for their children, us, has become our decadence. Technology, market and societal advancement (although I don't necessarily mean that as a positive), and work ethic, have led us to become tired, easy to manipulate, dismissive, and as such FAT and STUPID. Yes, FAT and STUPID.

Where are all the kids playing football in vacant lots? Where are all the kids playing street hockey? I don't see it in my bucolic little corner of the country. I'd gladly wait for the kids to get the net out of the way of my car as long as they were playing outside. No, their ears are glued to their stupid cellphones, walking up and down my neighborhood streets late at night coping feels of one-another, spewing filth and practicing the art of seduction at 13.

Why? Because for 40 years the democrats wanted to create a society of sheep who fall for their brainless manipulations and "require" government direction at every step in their lives? Well, yes, but, WHERE WERE YOU? How did you vote? Did you care? Did you say something, write a letter, perhaps, *gasp* PROTEST? Now we have to clean this mess up. But we can't yet, now we have China, Iran, N. Korea, and Russia, eyeing us up, calculating our weaknesses - Russia and China are fairly quiet, most likely the ones controlling the experiments against us, and there's NO QUESTION their pawns, Iraq and N. Korea, are the "media" being used to conduct these experiments on US. Right? Do we take of "terrorism" (and I'm not suggesting terrorism is not real or an immediate threat, but I AM suggesting that its present scope is not the product of its own momentum) and then take care of home?

NO! Ignoring the issues of our weaknesses as a society NOW will lead to a failure to prevail in ALL AREAS of our future survival as a nation. We must put more stock in the clarion calls an articles like this are. We must use this skill we've all developed to multi-task for pleasure and commerce to repair and fortify our society!

9 posted on 10/21/2006 11:06:35 PM PDT by sizzlemeister
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To: SmithL

All things operate on cycles, social and political trends are not immune. The pendulum will only swing so far.


10 posted on 10/21/2006 11:25:05 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: sizzlemeister; All; RaceBannon; Pan_Yans Wife; freedom44; jmc1969; FreeReign; odds; Cronos; ...

check out this article on AntiMullah about how we should wake up.


http://noiri.blogspot.com/2006/10/learn-america-learn-and-fast.html


11 posted on 10/22/2006 12:08:18 AM PDT by FARS
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To: Spirochete

The one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind.



Uh no, he's usually diagnosed as a pyschotic and shot full of thorazine, but have fun anyway.


12 posted on 10/22/2006 12:18:12 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: FARS
The only people that need to wake up are every friggen Democrat and all these cut-and-run conservatives.

They can all beat us over the head about tax cuts and tax hikes and more money for this and less money for that, but all that matters not if we're all dead.

13 posted on 10/22/2006 12:19:57 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: sizzlemeister

I had the good fortune to be a kid in the 50's. Since we didn't have any goodies like computers and cell phones, we played outside all the time. You name it, and we probably played it.

I was only in the house to eat, sleep or to do homework. We were outside, even in the winter.

We got to know our neighbors and built strong relationships with other kids. We also learned the value of hard work and practice to improve one's sporting skills.

Probably caused my mom a headache cleaning all those clothes. Most moms didn't have to work in those days. She could stay around and keep an eye on us.

Since most kids don't get down in the dirt every day, their immune systems are probably suffering along with their self esteem and self worth.


14 posted on 10/22/2006 12:21:06 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping and I'll check out the article on the site.

I think this is and has been culturally specific.

I don't have specific stats but, generally speaking, I believe some Asian countries such as Japan, China and Singapore (even a European country such as Germany) are much more concrete-oriented & 'perscriptive' - subjects such as high level math and physics are much more valued and encouraged. The U.S. is more abstract-oriented in comparison.


15 posted on 10/22/2006 12:24:49 AM PDT by odds
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To: FARS

Wow! That is a real eye opener.


16 posted on 10/22/2006 12:40:46 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: sizzlemeister
Succinctly: A few kids have got to get crippled or DIE in exuberant traditional physical activities in order to raise a generation worth a crap.
17 posted on 10/22/2006 12:45:01 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: marc costanzo; Spirochete
Two years ago, in January 2002, I published this comment which you might find relevant to this article. It attempts to treat of the liberal compulsion to jerk every lever in their quest not just for the betterment of man's condition but for the perfectibility of man himself. In the long run, these preposterous excesses are not really the result of fears over litigation, they are the inevitable consequences of the liberal mindset which sees your child in school as only another chicken in a Skinner box.

GOD AND MAN IN THE SKINNER BOX

Attending college in the 60's, I was exposed to the writings of BF Skinner in a mandatory Psychology 101 class. At the time I was struck by the time and energy the department devoted to this man and his theories. Essentially, he put a chicken in a box and taught it to play baseball by rewarding it with feed. When the chicken pressed a lever on cue, or ran a base, it got a pellet. Skinner was able to train animals to a remarkable degree with this method of positive reinforcement. He also demonstrated that negative reinforcement, such as electric shocks, was not as effective as positive reinforcement in controlling animal behavior.

So far, Skinner has not done the world much harm and perhaps he has even contributed something useful if you are Siegfried and Roy. But it soon became clear that Skinner and my psych professors had ambitions grander than dog and pony shows when they required a reading of Skinner's Walden Two. Here Skinner extrapolates his findings from chickens to people and causes real mischief. Essentially, he postulates that the humsn animal is a TABULA RASA, neither good nor evil, which can be conditioned into good behavior. There are no evil people just poorly conditioned behavior. All that is required to have generations of well behaved human chickens is a grand enough Skinner box to positively reinforce positive behavior. Of course, it does not take a socialist to see that it would take more than a village, indeed it would take a federal burocracy, to build and maintain a big enough box.

The mischief comes in when this thinking invades the penal (whoops, I mean corrections)system or the educational establishment and so on. Praeger, in his wonderful essay, has alluded to the effects on education of this baleful presumption about the nature of man. He is absolutely right when he says: you a mess of Wu

No issue has a greater influence on determining your social and political views than whether you view human nature as basically good or not. (Praeger's comment in an article which prompted this post)

This is why liberals loathe believing christians. This is why liberals are collectivists and conservatives are individualists. This is why the Democrat party slices and dices the electorate into groups. This is why Patty Murray said what she said. The old adage that liberals love mankind in the abstract and as a group (read African-Americans) but despise them on an individual level finds its origins here. This is why believing Christians and believing Jews are finding that they hold much in common and have a common philosophical enemy in secular Jews and goyische pagans. The application of this insight is almost endless.


18 posted on 10/22/2006 12:51:42 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: FARS
Very interesting article.

The appalling lack of education occurring in this country and wrongheadedness of the politically correct crowd invites capitulation to criminal and anarchist behavior. The example of South Africa is a good one.

(Long ago I found a history book on South Africa which contradicted the more modern claims of the tribal claims as indigenous peoples. The Dutch and later. the English settled a huge area sparsely populated by the Hottentots and Bushmen. Migrations from the north began one hundred years later.)
19 posted on 10/22/2006 12:57:50 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: marc costanzo
Is it really even possible for a "faggot" to be "pussy whipped"? It seems to me the whole notion of being "pussy whipped" presupposes the condition of having the aforementioned portion of the female anatomy conditionally withheld until some task the aforementioned female wishes one to perform is fulfilled, hence holding no sway over someone who is of the homosexual persuasion.
20 posted on 10/22/2006 12:58:27 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: SmithL; stowaway; jjm2111; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; Bigfitz; mcswan; posterkid; ...

must read bump


21 posted on 10/22/2006 1:00:28 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: SmithL
Liberals want us to rely on them. They are indoctrinating our children to wait for help rather than learn how to survive on their own in the world.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

22 posted on 10/22/2006 1:02:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FARS; odds
ODDS: I don't have specific stats but, generally speaking, I believe some Asian countries such as Japan, China and Singapore (even a European country such as Germany) are much more concrete-oriented & 'prescriptive' - subjects such as high level math and physics are much more valued and encouraged. The U.S. is more abstract-oriented in comparison.

Personally, I love statistics. Some people hate them. I can understand why. Statistics are an analytical prehensile limb – but how coordinated is the mind that employs them? I would look at tools instead of grades… that’s right, I’d drop the usual infatuation with grades and curriculums and instead look at tool sales. Think about it, who actually uses physics every day? I’m an engineer and enjoy solving high level math and physics problems – but let me tell you a secret – the guy with the tools gets the job done. More often than not, it’s the guy working the machines who offers a new destiny. Afterward, the more politically apt engineers and managers inject the creative genius of their subordinates into the appropriate stream of consciousness. I think that the mechanics of change in society have similarities be they products, law or any other aspect of culture.

Case in point; the apartheid regime of South Africa had to go. That was a required change. Post revolutionary governmental incompetence is an entirely independent issue. The Truth and Reconciliation project was and remains a model for post revolutionary politics. What remains to be resolved in South Africa does not absolve the apartheid regime of its dysfunction.

23 posted on 10/22/2006 1:04:57 AM PDT by humint (...err the least and endure! --- VDH)
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To: nathanbedford
Skinner is easily refuted by George Thorogood.

B-B-B-B Bad to the Bone.
24 posted on 10/22/2006 1:15:16 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: lesser_satan

>>Is it really even possible for a "faggot" to be "pussy whipped"? It seems to me the whole notion of being "pussy whipped" presupposes the condition of having the aforementioned portion of the female anatomy conditionally withheld until some task the aforementioned female wishes one to perform is fulfilled, hence holding no sway over someone who is of the homosexual persuasion.
<<

I was making a reference to th dialog in the movie !

The original cut of DEMOLITION MAN


25 posted on 10/22/2006 1:17:46 AM PDT by marc costanzo (The Only Good Liberal is Dead Liberal, Pure and Simple ! ! !)
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To: marc costanzo

I know, I just was being a wise-ass. Demolition Man is one of my favorite movies.


26 posted on 10/22/2006 1:23:11 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: humint

>>Case in point; the apartheid regime of South Africa had to go. That was a required change. Post revolutionary governmental incompetence is an entirely independent issue. The Truth and Reconciliation project was and remains a model for post revolutionary politics. What remains to be resolved in South Africa does not absolve the apartheid regime of its dysfunction.<<

Nor should aparthied be used as a scapegoat or source of excuses for all that has gone wrong South Africa since 1995 .

In many ways, South Africa was better off under that old regime, than the current corruption, ineptitude and lawlessnes that marks every and now all Black Majority Ruled African nations .

The fall of aparthied gave that Mugabe in Zimbawe the license to turn his government into another Robber Barron potentate, so typical of all Sub-Saharan countries .

Black Majority Rule = Mob Rule .

Both there and what we've seen in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina .


27 posted on 10/22/2006 1:25:57 AM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: sizzlemeister
Where are all the kids playing football in vacant lots?

With smaller families, the kid density in neighborhoods means fewer pick up games. People decry all of the organized sports kids are playing these days, but face it, it's gonna be organized to get enough kids together in one place to play some sports.

During the summer, my young adult sons regularly play pick up games of baseball (hardball) in the city, where they live. Basketball is the game of choice for most city kids these days.

Where are all the kids playing street hockey? I don't see it in my bucolic little corner of the country.

My sons played it some, as well as many other sports, both organized & pick up games.

As to the article, mention of binomial theorem, don't know about the rest of the nation's schools, but I know I had to relearn trinomials to help my sons with their homework. Then again, I had a recent conversation with one of my sons about converting numbers into various numeric bases. During the drive between my house & the store, I taught him how to convert numbers into base three, base eight & then some others which were higher than ten. Learning can & does take place outside of school...

28 posted on 10/22/2006 1:28:28 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: nathanbedford
B F Skinner's WALDEN TWO, yes, I did a comparative essay on that work with Orwell's ANIMAL FARM .

Problem was there was no comparison to be made with the two tomes .

Their conclusions were completely different and their characters had no parallels with each other .

Only a basis in Secular Utopian Writing- but that is where the concepts end - -
29 posted on 10/22/2006 1:30:00 AM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: BIGLOOK; NathanBedfordForrest

George Thurgood & The Destroyers .



Nature versus nurture- both have validity .

But a inherited trait is a persuasion, not a predetermination !

The nature of Creative Intelligence is that we are not Hardwired to be anything ! !



The first time I heard that song: Bad To The Bone,
was not on the soundtrack of John Carpenter's CHRISTINE of 1983, it was a 1982 movie called SLAYGROUND, which was actually more gruesome and scary !
And no it was not a slasher nor horror film . .


30 posted on 10/22/2006 1:38:05 AM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: humint
I’m an engineer and enjoy solving high level math and physics problems – but let me tell you a secret – the guy with the tools gets the job done.

The best engineers are those that can also turn the wrench. A wrench man will know a standard thread pitch, while a non-wrench engineer will read in one of his books what the best pitch should be for an application, even if a bolt has to be specially made to comply with his design.

31 posted on 10/22/2006 1:44:08 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: humint; FARS

Yes, I wasn’t suggesting that concrete is more valuable than abstract or even vice versa.

Personally and as a psychologist, I agree with you regarding 'tools' versus 'grades'. I don't think that they teach or put sufficient emphasis on practical or ‘softer’ skills in schools or universities – even in some Western countries. The MBA program, for example, is an exception.

"Tools" or to use a psych term "competencies" such as: influencing skills, leadership, creativity, innovation, initiative, tenacity, etc. are largely abstract and are essential for making things happen; not only in personal/social life but also professionally in many fields.

A balance between abstract and concrete is critical. Concrete gives one a model or a framework, whereas abstract enables one to successfully apply the concrete. I also believe that, unfortnately, concrete subjects (specifically cognitive abilities) are viewed and in most cases are easier taught. The ability to act in more abstract terms is more time consuming and needs to be continuously nurtured from a young age.

Btw - I like statistics too and statistics show that statistics are simply indications – a means to an end, not an end in itself. It is the analysis, interpretation and application of stats that matter the most.


32 posted on 10/22/2006 1:53:48 AM PDT by odds
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To: FARS

check out this article on AntiMullah about how we should wake up.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2006/10/learn-america-learn-and-fast.html

Thanks so much for the ping!!!


33 posted on 10/22/2006 2:00:10 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SmithL; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; Mears; ...
The author left out about how the do gooder anti's (living off of the smoker's tax dollars) are going into private businesses all across the United States and forcing smoking bans! Private businesses are forced to close or worse!
34 posted on 10/22/2006 2:05:22 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: goldstategop

" They are indoctrinating our children to wait for help rather than learn how to survive on their own in the world. "

How right you are!!

In the coming Depression (and there *will* be one), it will be interesting to see our population separate into two distinct groups: Those who "do", and Those who "have done for them".

Imagine Post-Katrina on a national scale -- millions upon millions (unprepared/unable/unwilling to "do for themselves") helplessly, stubbornly, waiting for - DEMANDING - *somebody* to rescue and take care of them. And dying in their multitudes when the help and care is not forthcoming.

"Dependency" is *not* a survival trait.


35 posted on 10/22/2006 2:21:25 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Stop the "tyranny of the 'offended' " -- say what you mean and stand by it!)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Question: How do American home schooled children come out on these world tests?


37 posted on 10/22/2006 2:57:58 AM PDT by Paulus
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To: SmithL

"No playing tag, and no competition in any sport for that matter. In fact, no competition - PERIOD! We are all winners here. I have ZERO TOLERANCE."

38 posted on 10/22/2006 3:28:38 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SmithL
Almost everyone I work with who has kids spends most weekday evenings and some weekends running hither and yon to soccer games, basketball games, etc. to watch their kids play. Maybe they're getting exercise somewhere else?

Carolyn

39 posted on 10/22/2006 3:43:33 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: SmithL
When I was but a wee lad my mother refused to let me play with any sort of gun toy. I responded by using anything and everything even remotely gun shaped as an imaginary firearm.

She finally relented and started getting me G.I. Joes after I started using pickles as pistols.

I'd imagine its the same way with a good chunk of the pint sized proto-men.
40 posted on 10/22/2006 4:00:40 AM PDT by Anvilhead (Dammit Jim, I'm an Ameri-can not an Ameri-can't.)
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To: SmithL
"Even the least confident students in Singapore outscored the most confident Americans."

So much for teaching self-esteem...

41 posted on 10/22/2006 4:54:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (:Every Muslim hero, including Mohammed, has been a mass murderer.)
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To: GOPJ
So much for teaching self-esteem...

Teach them something useful and self-esteem will come on it's own.

42 posted on 10/22/2006 5:03:07 AM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: SmithL

PING = Later


43 posted on 10/22/2006 5:07:58 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping.


44 posted on 10/22/2006 5:12:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (:Every Muslim hero, including Mohammed, has been a mass murderer.)
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To: SmithL
"We're doing it to ourselves."

As the great swamp philosopher, Pogo, once said: "We have found the enemy and they are us."

45 posted on 10/22/2006 5:17:47 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: SmithL

I guess the days of kids playing Smear the Queer are over,replaced by the more acceptable"Kiss the Queer".


46 posted on 10/22/2006 5:23:14 AM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: SmithL
The state of the public education system is dismal. We are in one of the A School districts and we are struggling to get our children the best education. Private school in Boca is an option, but one we are planning for when they are older. Still, we are spending 16-20 hours a week minimal for homework and additional tutoring, even today, Sunday, to get our kids on the ball for the level they need to be at. The teachers are barely capable, and are probably more adequate as day care specialists. They aren't teaching our children much of anything, and the burden falls to us to make certain the children learning what they need to.

We accept that. Our children are doing very well scholastically, I'm just pointing out that it is only because we put so much effort into what takes place outside of school. It sure as heck isn't because of the school.

What irritates me is when I compare the quality of education I received compared to what my children get. My parents never had to worry or work so hard as far as my school work. They were wonderful and supportive, but I don't recall them needing to spend 16-20 hours a week on my back asking "Do you understand?". Now we are seeing stuff that many people would assume are easily taught being entirely ommitted, and children being left with complex homework and no method to discern how to do it. Good review for us, but extremely troubling that the children don't get at least the basics at school. We are banding together with several parents in the same class and comparing notes on the teacher (who is highly rated!), the homework and general comprehension of the children. We are coping, but it's really concerning.

Thank God for our tutor, who is as devoted and wonderful as we could hope for. My son's getting highest marks because of her and his mother. I help too, but can't compare my effort to theirs.

When the kids get older, we'll consider the alternatives for education. Right now we can handle it. Later the $1,600 a month minimum (2 kids) for private school may be the option we take unless we can get involved with a good home schooling group. We'll see. For now, we want to focus on getting all the basic down.

47 posted on 10/22/2006 5:25:44 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: lesser_satan

Demo man is one of the scariest movies because it is slowly coming true.


48 posted on 10/22/2006 5:28:05 AM PDT by omega4179 (Borders Language Culture.)
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To: SmithL
Indeed, the descendants of the flinty New Englanders who chased the British redcoats from Lexington Green and Concord Bridge back to Boston are prohibited from playing all unsupervised "chasing games."

Just as bad, those flinty New Englanders are about to re-elect a lying, murdering, woman-abusing, pile of cr*p to the U.S. Senate. Maybe America is lost.

49 posted on 10/22/2006 5:42:56 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: lesser_satan
Is it really even possible for a "faggot" to be "pussy whipped"?

A beard and no teeth.

50 posted on 10/22/2006 5:43:06 AM PDT by fso301
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