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CNN Blasted, Praised Over Sniper Video(Despicable & Treasonous!)
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | October 21, 2006 | Steve Schmidt

Posted on 10/23/2006 6:21:07 AM PDT by kellynla

CNN's decision to air a video showing snipers targeting U.S. troops in Iraq provoked both rage and praise yesterday, with some calling it a brave move by the cable network and others labeling it a propaganda coup for terrorists.

“This is nothing short of a terrorist snuff film,” said Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Carlsbad. “I think CNN should recognize it made a terrible mistake and pull it.” Bilbray, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Alpine, and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, sent a letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld asking him to yank any CNN reporters embedded with U.S. troops in Iraq.

“They don't deserve to be with American Marines and soldiers,” said Hunter, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, at a news conference he and Bilbray held yesterday in downtown San Diego. CNN “can't decide which side they're on.”

Jeffrey Dvorkin, executive director of the Committee of Concerned Journalists in Washington, said CNN “did an important journalistic job in reporting this.”

“It's enormously important that Americans have a very clear sense of what our military is going through in Iraq,” Dvorkin said. “It's one of the better pieces of war reportage I've ever seen.”

A Defense Department spokesman yesterday declined to comment on the issue.

The cable channel began airing portions of the chilling video Wednesday night on “Anderson Cooper 360,” after what a network official described as an intense internal discussion over its news value.

“Whether or not you agree with us in this case, our goal, as always, is to present the unvarnished truth as best we can,” wrote CNN producer David Doss in a blog entry about the taped footage, which was still available on CNN.com last night.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


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To: kellynla

Thank you. I am sure this will only make me angrier than ever at how the MSM undermines America in support of terrorists!


51 posted on 10/23/2006 8:12:44 AM PDT by LUV W (We didnít lose almost 3000 people that day.We lost one wonderful person at a time, almost 3000 times)
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To: kellynla

I tried to watch the video and could only get the sound...which I now can't get rid of on my computer. =\

It was sick just listening to the reporter describing it. God help our soldiers to have to endure this.


52 posted on 10/23/2006 8:22:32 AM PDT by LUV W (We didnít lose almost 3000 people that day.We lost one wonderful person at a time, almost 3000 times)
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To: kellynla; OESY

Fox & Friends Sunday AM team (Kelly, Kiran and Allison, I believe) could hardly keep from holding their noses as they spoke quite contemptuously about it. They felt that Fox News would NEVER air such a tape, and they agreed that it shouldn't be aired.

The worst thing about this, imo, is that CNN GOT IT FROM THE INSURGENTS. Hello. If they had filmed it accidentally, I don't think they would look quite as despicable for airing it. (Well, almost, but not quite!) Because by playing a tape that terrorists gave them FOR THE PURPOSE OF AIRING, they are propaganda tools for the enemy.

And the reason they profess nothing to be wrong with it is that many at CNN are happy to be used.


53 posted on 10/23/2006 8:22:33 AM PDT by agrace (http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/agrace/)
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To: kellynla
First let's agree on the target.
Forget about CNN...focus on the head of Time Warner, Dick Parsons.
I know , I know, he's an African American !!!
How convenient.

Ask me if I care.

Go for the head Kelly.
54 posted on 10/23/2006 8:29:41 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: agrace

"Because by playing a tape that terrorists gave them FOR THE PURPOSE OF AIRING, they are propaganda tools for the enemy."

sounds like "aiding and abetting" to me...
now lets see if charges of treason are filed by AG Gonzales...
I won't be holding my breath!


55 posted on 10/23/2006 8:30:34 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

ping for later


56 posted on 10/23/2006 8:40:46 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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To: kellynla

I'm with you. Something needs to be done to show our disgust with American traitors. We owe it to our soldiers and to our fathers and forefathers who gave their last measure of devotion to our country and to our survival.


57 posted on 10/23/2006 9:51:09 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: kellynla

Consider contacting your cable or satellite provider and telling them how you feel about a station that takes a portion of your payments each month.

That's what I did today and the guy that works there is just as ticked off as we are and is working to get "upper management" to send a message to CNN saying they are not wanted by their customers.


58 posted on 10/23/2006 11:11:07 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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To: E8Ret
"None of them have left the Green Zone in weeks."

Exactly. It is half because they have already drawn their conclusions before seeing the situation (because they believe terrorist propaganda over releases from PAO's) and half because they're too scared to leave the green zone, making excuses for this such as "we don't have enough security."

Of course the bastards don't have enough security! The Generals need to be politically correct and cordial with them, but the Soldiers don't. They know their enemy and it's THE MEDIA. Of course it is getting tougher to find units that are willing to provide security for a group of anti-American pinkos who are looking for footage that they can use to take a cheap shot at the US military.

But, back to the sniper videos, the airing of videos like this by the media doesn't bother me as much as their past injustices. They've done far more outrageous things, such as endlessly slapping Abu Ghraib photos on the front page of the newspaper, over, and over, and over; inventing stories about flushing the Koran down the toilet; misrepresenting the actions of a Marine justifiably shooting a wounded terrorist in Fallujah; and so on. Then, after deliberately using those sensationalized "stories" to incite the Arab world, they have the audacity to ask questions like "why do they hate us?" and act surprised when the NIE concludes that our presence in the mideast has motivated fence-sitters to oppose us. Gee, I wonder why, when the media has worked 24/7 for 3 years to misrepresent why we're there, what we're doing, and consistently worked to portray this as another Vietnam from day one. At some point, people start to believe what they hear - especially when the people hearing it grew up in a mudhut, living in their own feces and filth, and were raised to believe in fairy tales and myths ranging from Muhammed to the 12th Imam to Jews eating babies.

The sad thing is that it doesn't need to be this way. That's not to simply bemoan the reality of having a traitorous establishment media. It's foolish and pointless to bemoan reality. What's sad is that nobody wants to recognize and deal with reality. Reality is that the media is our enemy. It is foolish, and potentially suicidal, to pretend that your enemy is your friend as he repeatedly plunges a knife into your back. The military has attempted to make the best possible working relationship with the media, but you can no more have a working relationship with the media than you can have a working relationship with a suicide bomber.

The media in this country is a Star Wars bar scene of anti-American scumbags, traitors, seditionists, liars, crooks, and perverts (much like congress, I might add) who should be locked up indefinitely. We need to bring back internment camps and put every Muslim, journalist, and codepink weirdo in there until no earlier than we leave Iraq and Afghanistan, regardless of how long that may be. So-called "journalists" in Iraq should be fare game, just like any other terrorist is. They're both part of the same enemy force.

Other than that, I have ho strong feelings on this subject.

59 posted on 10/23/2006 12:39:33 PM PDT by Axhandle
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To: kellynla

Isn't that special.... the Committee of Concerned Journalists is a left wing association that many CNN personnel belong to. Journalists are now citing journalists to defend journalists.


60 posted on 10/23/2006 12:59:45 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Steel Wolf
“It's enormously important that Americans have a very clear sense of what our military is going through in Iraq,”

These are the same assh*les who says the American public should not be shown graphic images of 9/11 victims jumping from burning towers, helpless prisoners being beheaded by terrorists, or images of the three Indonesian 13 year old girls who were beheaded a couple of weeks ago by members of the ROP.

61 posted on 10/23/2006 1:03:57 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: OESY
The only good that having Neal Gabler on a FOX program is to remind viewers of how out of touch the left really is. How that ass-clown can say some of the things he does with a straight face is beyond me.
62 posted on 10/23/2006 1:05:51 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Thank goodness we have the Internet & Conservative talk radio to get the facts out or we would have Viet Nam redux.


63 posted on 10/23/2006 1:07:31 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
“It's enormously important that Americans have a very clear sense of what our military is going through in Iraq,” Dvorkin said.

It would be nice if they showed not only what the terrorists are doing to the military, but what the military is doing to the terrorists and doing for the civilians.
I guess that’s too much to expect from CNN.

64 posted on 10/23/2006 1:10:01 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: kellynla
I served in Viet Nam and refuse to let it happen again. If still in uniform and in a combat zone I would have no hesitation or regrets for firing on a CNN crew because I recognize it as an enemy target.
65 posted on 10/23/2006 1:22:56 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: OESY

From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Gabler
"Neal Gabler is a professor, journalist, author, and political commentator....Gabler has taught at the University of Michigan and at Pennsylvania State University. He graduated summa cum laude from the University of Michigan and holds advanced degrees in film and American culture. He is currently Senior Fellow at the USC Annenberg Norman Lear Center."

I am not surprised he is a "professor". He is a propagandist and nothing more. He certainly is not intelligent or educated.

With Neal Gabler on, this is another Fox program I do not watch.

I don't need to listen to communist queers anyhow.

From Chronwatch:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=18164

Written by John Armor
Thursday, December 01, 2005



Fox News Watch is a Sunday program about journalism. This weekend, it demonstrated how not to be a journalist. The star of this dreadful segment was Neil Gabler.

Much of the discussion was on the coverage of the Iraq War. Gabler has frequently demonstrated his bias to the left on this program. This time, he was over the top.

Twice in the course of this discussion he yelled, not merely said,

“Iraq is a DISASTER. Get it? EVERYBODY gets it now.” Therefore, anyone who disagreed with his conclusion, whether a spokesman for the administration, or even anyone on the program including the token conservative on the program, Cal Thomas, is wrong.

Gabler also denigrated the actual progress in Iraq by saying,

“The good news is they painted some schools. The bad news is, anybody who teaches there is going to get blown up.”

There have been two instances of shootings of school teachers in Iraq. That is about equal to the teacher shootings in an average year in the Los Angeles Unified School District. But perspective does not seem to be Gabler’s long suit.

Host Eric Burns tried to bring Gabler back to responsibility by saying:

“You put both of those [stories] out there and let everybody decide how to weigh them.”

Gabler responded,

“Oh COME ON. It’s already BEEN weighed. That would be irresponsible for the press to say [that]. WE KNOW that Iraq is a DISASTER.” [All emphases are in the original.]

Later in the program, in defending Jon Stewart as “the best journalist in America,” Gabler said what we need is “journalism of truth.” Set aside the question of whether Stewart can be labeled as dealing in truth, rather than humor. Apply Gabler’s comment to Gabler. Neal ironically condemned his own comments on this very program.

(I could not locate on the Fox News website either a video or transcript of this program. However, the quotes are accurate from a TiVo of the program.)

Truth does not consist of the conclusion without facts, advanced by the journalist who shouts the loudest. If Gabler’s comment were accurate, all the news media could close their Iraq bureaus and bring their reporters home. Why risk the lives of real reporters to the bombs of the “insurgents,” who are actually terrorists and now are threatening to murder four more civilians, one of them an American? Why do that when a “media writer,” Neal Gabler, in his office in the United States, can provide the conclusions without risk?

Because of his obvious, public violation of the standards of journalism, Neal Gabler should apologize to the others on this program and to its viewers, on the next program. If he does not, Gabler should be dismissed and replaced with another journalist who has a better idea of how journalism should be conducted.

About the Writer: John Armor practiced in the US Supreme Court over 30 years, filing briefs in 18 cases. John may be reached at John_Armor@aya.yale.edu .


66 posted on 10/23/2006 1:31:32 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Natural Law

"I served in Viet Nam"

Welcome home!

I was with the 5th Marines in An Hoa 1969 & 1970.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


67 posted on 10/23/2006 1:32:11 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I was mainly quite a bit south in the Delta, 164th CAG (Combat Air Group) Can Tho AAF, RVN Aug 72 - Feb 73.


68 posted on 10/23/2006 2:00:05 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: kellynla; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...

Declare CNN an enemy propaganda arm and Enemy Combatant. Then be done with it - hammer 'em with the full force of the law.


69 posted on 10/23/2006 4:16:55 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: kellynla
Dear CNN...

Remember that the next time you get at shot while pointing a camera at our troops, you just might get confused with someone id'ing targets for a terrorist sniper...


70 posted on 10/23/2006 4:22:39 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: kellynla
At this point anyone in the military that has a camera pointed at them in a battle zone may assume it is a terrorist and may use deadly force to eliminate the propagandist sniper video accomplice.
71 posted on 10/23/2006 4:28:24 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Prost1; Natural Law

You have both nailed Gabler. Well done.


72 posted on 10/23/2006 4:54:47 PM PDT by OESY
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To: kellynla

I'd be willing to bet this thread makes it's way out to the troops in Iraq

Thank you Kelly


73 posted on 10/23/2006 6:26:41 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Thank You Veterans)
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To: kellynla

I'm late to this thread, but CNN has quietly become infiltrated in high positions by Muslims.: http://www.ameinfo.com/30636.html


74 posted on 10/23/2006 6:56:36 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: vigilante2

O'Reilly was actually making excuses FOR CNN showing this "snuff film!"

Of course, O'Reilly was chasing cheerleaders while yours truly was fighting VC and NVA. So what the hell would he know about enemy propaganda.

Its Cronkite Viet Nam yellow journalism and enemy propaganda all over again!

Henry Kissinger was just on Hannity & Colmes reminding Alan Colmes that the reporting of the American loss of the Tet Offensive was WRONG. In fact, the Marines BROKE the VC back during the Tet Offensive.

Bottom line: After this treasonous stunt, I don't expect any commander in Iraq or Afghanistan will be allowing ANY CNN REPORTERS IN HIS UNIT!


75 posted on 10/23/2006 6:58:10 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: melt; All

anyone including you who missed O'Reilly and/or Hannity & Colmes; both programs covered this issue tonight.

O'Reilly was making excuses for CNN while Michelle Malkin was exposing the despicable treason.

Hannity & Colmes had a general and Brent Bozell on.
Only Colmes was on CNN's side...big surprise.

CNN's reporters should be BANNED from all American military units.

We don't need or want enemy collaborators within our ranks!


76 posted on 10/23/2006 7:06:07 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I have put foxnew on and will watch the re-runs of BOR and Hannity/Colms. It is coming up now. Called her ugly jeez --- yes!!

Coming home today I was listening to my cowboy station and the song - by Darryl Worley (I think)

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Well, I have not forgotten and I know Freepers haven't either!!

It seems to me this CNN program can be turned against the Democrats. Which I have not seen

Have they actually forgotten what happened that day in September morning. Are they disregarding all the men and women who have been injured or lost their lives because of Terrorism and the threat to the world.

How disgraceful that the major media outlets - TV or paper do not and will not cover the good and positive actions our men and women are involved in.








77 posted on 10/23/2006 11:17:57 PM PDT by malia (President Bush - a man of honor!! clinton as President a man of horror)
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To: kellynla

Yeah right. The only ones defending these slime bags are terrorists or the Media. Then again whats the Dif.


78 posted on 10/23/2006 11:23:27 PM PDT by Brimack34
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