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GOP Senator Say Iraq Is Near Chaos (Lindsey Graham)
AP ^ | October 23, 2006 | DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 10/23/2006 3:14:21 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Under election-year pressure to change course in Iraq, the Bush administration said Monday there are no plans for dramatic shifts in policy or for ultimatums to Baghdad to force progress.

Just two weeks before the Nov. 7 elections that will determine whether Republicans retain control of Congress, the White House tried to calm political anxieties about deteriorating security in Iraq. Both Democratic and Republican lawmakers are calling on President Bush to change his war plan.

"We're on the verge of chaos, and the current plan is not working," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said in an Associated Press interview. U.S. and Iraqi officials should be held accountable for the lack of progress, said Graham, a Republican who is a frequent critic of the administration's policies.

Asked who in particular should be held accountable _ Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, perhaps, or the generals leading the war _ Graham said: "All of them. It's their job to come up with a game plan" to end the violence

Rumsfeld, in remarks at the Pentagon, said U.S. government and military officials were working with Iraq to set broad time frames for when Iraqis can take over 16 provinces that are still under the control of U.S. troops. He said officials were not talking about penalizing the Iraqis if they don't hit certain benchmarks.

The Iraqis have taken control of two southern provinces but have been slow to take the lead in others, particularly those around Baghdad and in the volatile regions north and west of the capital city. Rumsfeld said specific target dates probably will not be set. Instead, he said there might be a broader time frame _ such as a one- to three-month window _ for the Iraqis to take control of certain provinces.

Rumsfeld visited the White House early Monday with Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Rumsfeld said the United States was looking at when the Iraqis would move close to setting up a reconciliation process to help quell worsening sectarian violence between Sunnis and Shiites.

Frustration with the war is eroding support in Republican as well as Democratic camps.

Joseph Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said two Republicans have told him they will demand a new policy in Iraq after the election. Biden declined to name the GOP lawmakers. He said Republicans have been told not to make waves before the election because it could cost the party seats. Yet some prominent GOP lawmakers have expressed doubts about Bush's policy.

White House press secretary Tony Snow said the United States was continually adjusting its strategy in Iraq.

"In that sense there are new things going on. But are there dramatic shifts in policy? The answer is no," Snow said.

"There is still a very large to-do list before Iraq is in a position to sustain, govern and defend itself," he said.

"Are we issuing ultimatums? No."

He acknowledged, however, that Bush no longer is saying that the United States will "stay the course" in Iraq.

"He stopped using it," Snow said of that phrase, adding that it left the impression that the administration was not adjusting its strategy to realities in Baghdad.

Showing progress in Iraq is critical with the approaching elections, which are widely viewed as a referendum on public support of the war. In Baghdad on Tuesday, Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, and Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander there, are scheduled to hold a rare joint news conference.

Facing growing impatience with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's failure to stem the carnage, Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh said international forces must not abandon Iraq while the situation there remains volatile.

"I do believe there is no option for the international community to cut and run," he told reporters after meeting Prime Minister Tony Blair in London. He said Iraqis and the international community need to be realistic, "but not defeatist."

"We need to understand that there is a need of utmost urgency to deal with many of the problems of Iraq but we must not give in to panic," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dontaskdonttell; goober; graham; iraq; republican; senate; tokyorose; tokyosouthcarolina; usefulidiot; usefulidiottokyorose
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1 posted on 10/23/2006 3:14:22 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

There really must be some kind of Mad Elephant Disease that turns the brains of GOP Senators into mush.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 3:15:53 PM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I was a huge supporter of Graham during his first run because I admired his efforts in the Clinton impeachment.

At this point, SC is a safe GOP seat. He needs to be challenged in the primary and defeated.

'Nuff said.


3 posted on 10/23/2006 3:16:32 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

I think that is the point. No attacks on US soil for 5 years coincidence?


4 posted on 10/23/2006 3:16:45 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: West Coast Conservative

I guess Lindsey Graham went a couple days without any media attention, so he decided he needed to spout the media's line to get their attention back.

And turn off the TV news Lindsey. The myopic coverage of a few blocks in Bagdhad doesn't give you the full picture of what's going on, nor does the obsessive casualty litany by the Clown Car Media.


5 posted on 10/23/2006 3:16:46 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
SOB.

Just damn. Thanks Linsey, you idiot.

6 posted on 10/23/2006 3:16:49 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Do you think that if the Republicans just outed Graham and got it over with, Lindsey would act like a more loyal Republican?


7 posted on 10/23/2006 3:16:56 PM PDT by Eva
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To: West Coast Conservative

Graham, once his term is up, will never cast a shadow in a political office ever again.


8 posted on 10/23/2006 3:17:18 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

--"We're on the verge of chaos, and the current plan is not working," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said in an Associated Press interview. U.S. and Iraqi officials should be held accountable for the lack of progress, said Graham--

I'm agreeing with him right now, mad cow disease or not...but I've been through pessimistic periods before.


9 posted on 10/23/2006 3:18:52 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: West Coast Conservative

To our SC friends: PLEASE lose this guy when his term is up.


10 posted on 10/23/2006 3:19:08 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

He's still in the GOP?


11 posted on 10/23/2006 3:19:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: West Coast Conservative

Can you spell RINO??? Mush-mouthed Lindsey needs to just go git him a big ole bowl of grits and hush. Tird burd RINO.


12 posted on 10/23/2006 3:20:08 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: TitansAFC

I supported Graham for the same reasons but he is low down on my list now.


13 posted on 10/23/2006 3:20:22 PM PDT by unkus
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To: West Coast Conservative
Graham said: "All of them. It's their job to come up with a game plan"

Note to Graham...please don't think of this as a "game". The Iraqis have a lot more to lose than a game.

14 posted on 10/23/2006 3:20:52 PM PDT by Lekker 1 (("...the world will be...eleven degrees colder by the year 2000" -- K. Watt, Earth Day, 1970)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Why doesn't Graham realize that the media is goading him into making statements like this just two weeks before the election in order to drive a wedge between Republicans and keep voters home?

-PJ

15 posted on 10/23/2006 3:21:14 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Eva

Lindsey's should just be glad he was left off "the list".



16 posted on 10/23/2006 3:21:54 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: Buck W.
To our SC friends: PLEASE lose this guy when his term is up.

I have already pledged to do all I can to get him destroyed in the primary.

Friggin' RINO!!

17 posted on 10/23/2006 3:21:56 PM PDT by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
(cough)... homo... (cough)
18 posted on 10/23/2006 3:22:01 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.,
___________________________________________________________
Since when did Graham become a Republican? Anyone who supports McCrazy is not a Republican.


19 posted on 10/23/2006 3:22:29 PM PDT by John D
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To: West Coast Conservative
Can someone run against this piece of crap and get him out of the US Senate? He is a TRAITOR and a covert left-wing fascist pig faced Democrat.
20 posted on 10/23/2006 3:23:05 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well thanks Lindsey for supporting your president. /sarc/

Idiots like Lindsey are more than happy to undermine their president and their party for a little ink in liberal rags. I hope this jackass doesn't have any higher political aspirations.


21 posted on 10/23/2006 3:23:36 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; Abbeville Conservative; acf2906; ...
Lindsey manages to embarrass us again.

South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.

22 posted on 10/23/2006 3:24:29 PM PDT by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: upchuck

"I have already pledged to do all I can to get him destroyed in the primary."

Please let me know who will run against him, in the primary, so I can donate to their campaign.


23 posted on 10/23/2006 3:24:47 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: West Coast Conservative

And he couldn't have waited till the second week in November to grace us with his wise words about Iraq?



25 posted on 10/23/2006 3:25:49 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: West Coast Conservative
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said in an Associated Press interview. U.S. and Iraqi officials should be held accountable for the lack of progress, said Graham, a Republican who is a frequent critic of the administration's policies. Citizens of South Carolina, YOU MUST DUMP THIS DEM OPERATIVE!!

Two weeks before the mid term and this turkey is spouting off like Nancy Pelosi's best pal! Frankly I don't care if a Dem beats him, he does more harm than good. The media's favorite "bipartisan" Republican.

DUMP THIS SCHMUCK!!

26 posted on 10/23/2006 3:26:18 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: West Coast Conservative
Asked who in particular should be held accountable _ Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, perhaps, or the generals leading the war _ Graham said: "All of them. It's their job to come up with a game plan" to end the violence

No their job is to win the war, within the constraints, including resource constraints, imposed by the President, and Congress.

27 posted on 10/23/2006 3:26:30 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Alex1977; DHC-2; gruntSGT; Peach; SC Swamp Fox; upchuck
Lindsey Ping

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.

28 posted on 10/23/2006 3:26:47 PM PDT by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I think that Lindsey Graham is a homosexer, or a cross dresser at the very least. We need to purge ourselves of this idiot next time around.
29 posted on 10/23/2006 3:27:17 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Is Lindsey married to a woman who doesn't let him speak at home????


30 posted on 10/23/2006 3:27:24 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: dirtboy
Disease that turns the brains of GOP Senators into mush
I will not disagree with your assessment, my question is do you disagree with the Senator or do you feel things are under control?
31 posted on 10/23/2006 3:28:10 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: YOUGOTIT

You got it :)


32 posted on 10/23/2006 3:28:27 PM PDT by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: Lekker 1
.please don't think of this as a "game". The Iraqis have a lot more to lose than a game.

Like their heads. Of course they have a lot to gain too, like Burkas for the women, and suicide belts for the younger set.

33 posted on 10/23/2006 3:28:40 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: upchuck


Being from Sumter, S.C....I have a dog in this fight.

Remember folks, this is an AP article...so Lindsey could have been taken out of context, but for this type of comment to exist in the first place is atrocious...Lindsey has his moments of senility, and his moments of being lucid.

But...it's probably time for him to retire.


34 posted on 10/23/2006 3:30:01 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: mware

Do you feel things in Iraq are under control?


35 posted on 10/23/2006 3:30:37 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: dirtboy

Just out of curiosity, was this sort of thing (trashing the administration in time of war) common before vietnam? I fear we will never win another war due to politics at home.
susie


36 posted on 10/23/2006 3:30:42 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Haha, I love how the Bushbots take any criticism whatsoever of Bush, however slight, and get in a frenzied rage about it and demand the head of the communist liberal who made it. Freaking hilarious. How about this: if Bush is serious about the War on Terror, why didn't he attack Iran? And why isn't he "staying the course"?


37 posted on 10/23/2006 3:30:50 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: West Coast Conservative

South Carolina Freepers can't you get him to shut the hell up?


38 posted on 10/23/2006 3:31:05 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: upchuck

This clown Graham looks just like that light in the loafers Clay Aiken of American Idol. I actually think they suffer from the same affliction, but at least Aiken can sing.


39 posted on 10/23/2006 3:31:39 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: West Coast Conservative

Can these "McCain Gang of Seven" RINO's not shut their mouth for a few more weeks. They are worse than Carter or Clinton at times.


40 posted on 10/23/2006 3:31:52 PM PDT by rock58seg (The primaries are over. Hold you your nose if necessary, but ....VOTE!...)
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To: bkepley

I'm agreeing with him right now,
I too agree, anyone that thinks things over there are under control need help. I feel I am loyal to the President to a fault, but things there are bad and people here need to admit it.


41 posted on 10/23/2006 3:32:04 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: upchuck

Once again, little Flimsey Tinkerbelle pops up to throw sand in the gears. What a creep!

And we thought Chuckie Schumer is the leading media hound?


42 posted on 10/23/2006 3:32:19 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: bkepley

Even if he is correct, it would seem to me to be far wiser to work behind the scenes than to say such things in public, so that our enemies believe that if they can just keep killing our guys we will eventually give up because we don't have the will to go on.
susie


43 posted on 10/23/2006 3:32:47 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: West Coast Conservative

There was a time I thought highly of this guy. Then he went downhill.I sure hope a conservative runs against him next time he is up for re-election because he is a complete waste of space in DC.


44 posted on 10/23/2006 3:32:48 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: West Coast Conservative

You're a POS Lindsey, but I guess you already know that!


45 posted on 10/23/2006 3:33:44 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Republicans should be demanding Ted Kennedy's resignation from the Senate for selling out this country to the Soviet Union. But republicans can't smell an issue if it is put under their noses. Keep criticizing our president and for the traitor left wing it's free pass all the way.


46 posted on 10/23/2006 3:34:21 PM PDT by Williams
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To: billybudd
He is staying the course. What idiot would attack Iran? You?

Your showing your ignorance if you answer to the affirmative.

47 posted on 10/23/2006 3:34:35 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: TitansAFC

The RNC will interfere if a primary challenge is mounted, abusing the funds they are given by their donors again.

But I do want one to happen and this time succeed.

Linds is the perfect example of why I despise the party right now. And if he had any courage whatsoever he'd run as a "moderate" Democrat for that is what he is in his heart. He just so happens to be unelectable as a Democrat in South Carolina. So why I should care what a political coward has to say about war, well, I have to confess I don't really know. If you haven't the guts to stand for the party you really belong in because you might not be elected, you certainly don't have a right to be listened to about life and death matters in war. Sue, you have the right to speak, but I have the right not give a damn wha a political coward thinks.


48 posted on 10/23/2006 3:34:35 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

"Is Lindsey married to a woman"

Hint: activate gaydar at this time.


49 posted on 10/23/2006 3:34:45 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: TitansAFC
"I admired his efforts in the Clinton impeachment."

Clinton was a heterosexual...

Unrequited love?

Semper Fi

50 posted on 10/23/2006 3:34:46 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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