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[Canada] Evangelical schools ordered to teach Darwin (Or be shut down)
The National Post ^ | October 24, 2006 | David Rogers

Posted on 10/24/2006 11:19:52 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

OTTAWA - The Quebec Ministry of Education has told unlicensed Christian evangelical schools that they must teach Darwin's theory of evolution and sex education or close their doors after a school board in the Outaouais region complained the provincial curriculum was not being followed.

"Quebec children are legally required to follow the provincial curriculum ... but these evangelical schools teach their own courses on creationism and sexuality that don't follow the Quebec curriculum," said Pierre Daoust, director-general of the Commission Scolaire au Coeur-des-Vallees in Thurso, Que.

Mr. Daoust's complaint sparked the province-wide investigation.

Quebec law requires school boards to assure the Ministry of Education that every child between the ages six of and 16, with the exception of home-schooled children, receives an adequate education, he said.

But the 20 elementary and high school students who attend a school operated by Eglise Evangelique near Saint-Andre-Avellin, Que., are being educated according to a Bible-based curriculum and their high school diplomas will not be recognized anywhere in Canada, he said.

Supporters of Eglise Evangelique, part of the l'Association des eglises evangeliques du Quebec, counter that the school teaches a "world view" that is essential for their students.

"We offer a curriculum based on a Christian world view rather than humanistic world view," said Alan Buchanan, chairman of a committee that reorganized the school's administration this past summer, as well as a former Quebec public school teacher.

Mr. Buchanan said Eglise Evangelique teaches evolution as well as intelligent design.

"We want the children to understand what they're going to meet in the outside world, and also what's wrong with the theory," he said. "We also teach that a better theory -- that God created the universe and so on."

While the school doesn't teach sex education, it does teach biology, he said.

"You have the Christian world view that says sex should only be in the marriage and a public school system that teaches kids about sexuality," Mr. Buchanan said. "We believe students should be taught abstinence."

He said the school met provincial guidelines during two reviews conducted in the 1990s, although they were asked to add a Canadian history course.

Ministry spokeswoman Marie-France Boulay said yesterday the province will negotiate for several weeks with an unspecified number of evangelical schools to determine whether they can meet provincial standards that include the teaching of Darwin's theory of evolution.

Ms. Boulay said two or three unlicensed evangelical schools in the Outaouais are affected.

In addition to the 20 students at Eglise Evangelique, another 40 students attend an unlicensed evangelical school in Gatineau, Que., which falls under the jurisdiction of the Commission Scolaire des Draveurs. There is a third in Hull, Que., Mr. Daoust said. The other school boards haven't complained.

The Quebec government knows of about 30 unlicensed religious schools in the province, including Hasidic schools and several evangelical Christian schools in Montreal, said Dermod Travis, who served on Quebec's Comite sur la langue d'enseignement, a tribunal that hears special cases from the province's educational system.

Other religious denominations may operate faith-based schools as well, but no one really knows where they are.

The Quebec government has known about unaccredited religion-based schools for years, but has tolerated them for fear of offending the denominations sponsoring them.

Members of the Pentecostal Eglise Nouvelle Alliance in Gatineau, which operates a school for about 40 students, refused to discuss the Ministry of Education investigation because their minister, Charles Boucher, is out of Canada until Nov. 1.

Ontario schools are not required to teach either evolution or sex education, said Elaine Hopkins, executive director of the 900-member Ontario Federation of Independent Schools, which has 120,000 children attending schools with a few as 10 students and as many as 1,000.

Many parents send their children to independent schools because they object to the teaching of certain subjects in the public schools, she said. "These are issues that should be decided by the parents, not the province."

At the elementary level in Ontario, there are no curriculum requirements for independent schools at all, although Ms. Hopkins points out that the industry is market-driven.

"It's called direct accountability to the parents," she said. "If you're not going to teach reading, writing and arithmetic, the parents aren't going to pay for it."

At the high school level in Ontario, independent schools are inspected by Ministry of Education officials to ensure that they meet curriculum and hours-of-instruction guidelines for credits to be accepted by the ministry.


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1 posted on 10/24/2006 11:19:55 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Won't be long till that happens here.

Come Lord Jesus, preserve your sheep.
2 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:29 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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3 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:32 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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4 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:47 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Happened somewhat in Germany. Parents were arrested by the state for homeschooling their children.


5 posted on 10/24/2006 11:22:24 AM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

What you teach and how you teach it are of course two different things.


6 posted on 10/24/2006 11:23:32 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Liberals would let Mark Foley be a Boy Scout leader.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The "tolerance" of the left strikes again.


7 posted on 10/24/2006 11:24:03 AM PDT by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I wonder if a test oriented education system might be more appropriate. For example, a student would be required to take tests on different subject material appropriate for a grade level.

A first grade student would take 1st grade math, 1st grade science, spelling etc. A sixth grader would do the same for their level of education.

Upon obtaining enough passing scores, the student would receive their elementary, pre-HS, and HS certifications / diplomas.

Such a system would then open up a whole new education industry where companies could hire actors or educators to film a specific subject or instruction block, and provide the training over the web or via CD or other media.
8 posted on 10/24/2006 11:26:18 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: DaveLoneRanger

What does Canada require of the Muslim schools? Do they have to follow the secular humanist curriculum? How about "fair and balanced," Cannucks?


9 posted on 10/24/2006 11:26:45 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: DaveLoneRanger
You are safer in the lions' den, than compromise with evil.


Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
10 posted on 10/24/2006 11:29:58 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Quebec law requires school boards to assure that every child, with the exception of home-schooled children, receives an adequate education.

Apparently they are prevented by law from receiving a superior education. Fortunately, the home-schooled children are exempt from this limitation. :^)

11 posted on 10/24/2006 11:30:50 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Unfortunately, this is the Quebec provincial government.

Maybe the Catholic bishops could weigh in, in support of the rights of their Evangelical brothers, although Quebec is pretty far gone down the route of secularization and modernization within the Church.


12 posted on 10/24/2006 11:32:10 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: redgolum

Oh Canada! (Eeek, I don't know French for the word Oh) Oh well, I don't live in Canada, sorry.


13 posted on 10/24/2006 11:33:48 AM PDT by Ace's Dad ("There are more important things: Friendship, Bravery...")
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To: kittymyrib
What does Canada require of the Muslim schools? Do they have to follow
the secular humanist curriculum? How about "fair and balanced," Cannucks?


The Canadian educational authorities aren't stupid.

They'll only try to control cirriculum of a group that doesn't saw heads
off helpless civilians.
14 posted on 10/24/2006 11:33:52 AM PDT by VOA
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To: pulaskibush
It's the Quebec government ~ not the left (per se), and they have their own agenda. For one thing they don't want any more Evangelicals or Fundamentalists living in Quebec than they can get away with.

There's a long tradition of forced conversions in La Belle Province doncha know, and some people there would like to bring it back.

In short, all is not as it seems when you have to deal with these guys.

15 posted on 10/24/2006 11:36:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Yet, Q-bec doesn't make the same demands of the many Islamic schools in that backwards province. The rest of Canada should cut that province loose. It costs them too much. That would end the liberal stronghold in Canada as well after redistribution of seats.

Shame, shame Q-bec. Stomping on Christianity again. St. Boniface would not be happy with this.


16 posted on 10/24/2006 11:43:56 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Outrageous.
17 posted on 10/24/2006 11:49:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: taxcontrol
Your idea about testing makes absolutely perfect sense, and it has a zero chance of happening because the NEA and their Dem sponsors will fight this all the way, just like they have fought vouchers.

If the testing process of "No Child Left Behind" would allow for this, it would cause a revolution in education, and the NEA and Dems will not allow it. After all, the NEA wants to protect its monopoly, and the Dems want to continue to get their NEA contributions. Forget about the fact that this would greatly aid our children.

18 posted on 10/24/2006 11:52:25 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: taxcontrol

"A first grade student would take 1st grade math, 1st grade science, spelling etc. A sixth grader would do the same for their level of education."

And since it's state mandated, the first grader would really be tested on multicultural sensitivity and contributions of the gay/transgender community. And the 6th grader would be tested on the greatness of communism, how evil the USA is, why families are bad, and exotic sex positions.

Then while our children have no concept of math, literature, or moral boundaries, we would wonder why our schools are falling so far behind, and the politicians and teachers unions would demand more money.


19 posted on 10/24/2006 12:01:38 PM PDT by dan1123
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I'm in favor of less government intrusion into peoples lives but, in a case like this where the so-called school is deliberately and maliciously destroying the minds of innocent young children by filling them with superstitious myths while hiding and distorting the most basic scientific theory of biology from them, the government is right to step in and stop an obvious case of child abuse.
20 posted on 10/24/2006 12:16:55 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The Quebec Ministry of Education has told unlicensed Christian evangelical schools ...

As if this changes anything for them.

21 posted on 10/24/2006 12:30:18 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: potlatch; kittymyrib
"What does Canada require of the Muslim schools? Do they have to follow the secular humanist curriculum? How about "fair and balanced," Cannucks?"

Right! What about Muslim schools in mosques?

The many radical Islamic mosques in Canada?

22 posted on 10/24/2006 12:39:03 PM PDT by devolve ( STAY_HOME?-CNN/CBS is KILLING your KIDS!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Mark and BTTT


23 posted on 10/24/2006 12:54:04 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
>>Won't be long till that happens here.
>>Come Lord Jesus, preserve your sheep.

From your lips to God’s ear.

This is truly scary, “Freedom of speech” as long as you say what I want you to say.

>> Their high school diplomas will not be recognized anywhere in Canada

As a business man, I know whom I would rather hire…
24 posted on 10/24/2006 12:58:18 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DaveLoneRanger
But the 20 elementary and high school students who attend a school operated by Eglise Evangelique near Saint-Andre-Avellin, Que., are being educated according to a Bible-based curriculum and their high school diplomas will not be recognized anywhere in Canada, he said.

Canada seems to understand the concept of "Science in Science Class."

25 posted on 10/24/2006 1:09:15 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: DeweyCA
I have often wondered if there might not be a way for home schoolers to create their own "market place". I can see several home schoolers across several states first creating a standardized set of tests to be administered via a 3rd party (Prometric, Sylvan, etc).

Then a standard, open source instruction set can be created to teach to those tests. If enough backing was obtained, colleges could be influenced to accept the certificates of instruction (diplomas).

Thoughts???
26 posted on 10/24/2006 1:13:36 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Christian children should know about evolution. They won't be getting a proper education without it. But they don't have to be taught it is TRUTH. And that's the difference. My dau went to a Christian college and her 8th grade science teacher made a point of telling all the parents that. And she informed us that there is some evidence that points toward it. She wanted to teach her students science, evidence and thought. But this teacher did not believe in evolution per se. She was a great teacher, too.


27 posted on 10/24/2006 1:13:38 PM PDT by twigs
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To: shuckmaster
I'm in favor of less government intrusion into peoples lives but, in a case like this where the so-called school is deliberately and maliciously destroying the minds of innocent young children by filling them with superstitious myths while hiding and distorting the most basic scientific theory of biology from them, the government is right to step in and stop an obvious case of child abuse.

Yes. Creationism in science class is worse than no science class at all. Give a kid no science class at all and he will at least know he doesn't know anything.

28 posted on 10/24/2006 1:14:52 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: devolve
Right! What about Muslim schools in mosques?

Bump!!

29 posted on 10/24/2006 1:17:09 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: VadeRetro; shuckmaster; DaveLoneRanger
. . . maliciously destroying the minds of innocent young children by filling them with superstitious myths . . .

Creationism in science class is worse than no science class at all.

Too funny! Aristotle, Galen, Copernicus, Sir Isaac Newton and dozens of other pre-Darwinian scientists/natural philosophers did quite well without the theory of evolution.

30 posted on 10/24/2006 1:54:37 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Jacquerie
Too funny! Aristotle, Galen, Copernicus, Sir Isaac Newton and dozens of other pre-Darwinian scientists/natural philosophers did quite well without the theory of evolution.

They did quite well without Einstein, too. Too funny indeed! Is no fallacy too risible for the purposes of attacking that Devil Evolution?

The cool thing about science is that it does make progress. The last 150 years have made the most progress of any such period in our history. That's the very period some people would like to undo.

31 posted on 10/24/2006 2:02:17 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"The Quebec Ministry of Education has told unlicensed Christian evangelical schools that they must teach Darwin's theory of evolution and sex education or close their doors after a school board in the Outaouais region complained the provincial curriculum was not being followed."

"Quebec children are legally required to follow the provincial curriculum ... but these evangelical schools teach their own courses on creationism and sexuality that don't follow the Quebec curriculum," said Pierre Daoust, director-general of the Commission Scolaire au Coeur-des-Vallees in Thurso, Que.


Did it ever occur to the Quebec Ministry of Education is not ultimately responsible for the education of children--parents are. The parents are being robbed with excessive taxes to support the schools with mandated provincial curriculum. Then the parents pay again to send their children to a school where they can learn something other then what is mandated by the all-knowing all-wise state. Then the all-knowing all-wise state thinks it needs to mandate what is taught in the schools the parents directly pay for.

When conservatives discuss methods of vouchers, the primary worry is related to government influence over schools supported with government money. Here there is NO government money and the government still thinks it has a mandate what is taught. THIS IS WRONG!

I am not saying that Christians should not understand the mythology of evolutionary historical reconstruction and why it is extremely improbable.

This is simply a case where the state has clearly stepped out of its rightful role becoming an authoritarian elite "directing future evolution" via an authoritarian elite. This is descriptive of a world devoid of freedom.
32 posted on 10/24/2006 2:05:46 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: VadeRetro; shuckmaster; DaveLoneRanger; DelphiUser; 4CJ; Nathan Zachary; VOA
Today's scientists walk on the shoulders of giants. That's right, they all walk on the shoulders of those superstitious pre-Darwinian philosophers who were taught the biblical story of creation.

As for failed theories, whaddaya bet the local Canadian public schools teach Marxism, which is now called social justice/progressivism? How many humans were murdered as a result of Marxism these past 150 years? How many did Creationism murder?

I've never understood the rabid hostility of radical secularists. If I believe in the tooth fairy, why do you care? Don't like creationism? Fine, don't send your kids to the school.
33 posted on 10/24/2006 2:25:49 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Jacquerie
Today's scientists walk on the shoulders of giants. That's right, they all walk on the shoulders of those superstitious pre-Darwinian philosophers who were taught the biblical story of creation.

Aristotle and Galen from your list were not, nor should it matter what a real scientist's religious education might be, given that science is a systematic investigation of nature.

You persist in blatant fallacy. You have ignored the content of my last post. The last 150 years of science, the ones you don't like, have brought us the most progress of any such period. It's just too late to claim that science is about what church you attend.

What pushed the envelope in Aristotle's day won't do it today. What was good enough for Newton wasn't good enough by the 1880s. It isn't the Middle Ages anymore, never mind what Proverbs says about witches.

34 posted on 10/24/2006 2:45:13 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: Jacquerie
I've never understood the rabid hostility of radical secularists. If I believe in the tooth fairy, why do you care?

If I believe science should be taught in science class, what does a pig-ignorant witch doctor care?

35 posted on 10/24/2006 2:46:07 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ..
Canada ping.

Please send me a FReepmail to get on or off this Canada ping list.

36 posted on 10/24/2006 2:47:35 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Canada always been one step ahead of the US in implementing the liberal agenda. That includes forcing religious schools to teach Darwinism, the official state religion of the post-modern west.
37 posted on 10/24/2006 2:48:41 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: DaveLoneRanger; fanfan

The Eugenics Agenda will be on the cards next.


38 posted on 10/24/2006 2:50:05 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Excellent observation.


39 posted on 10/24/2006 2:51:03 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Jacquerie

I've never understood the rabid hostility of radical secularists.
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Last line - plain ol Pleasure is their goal and religion and getting as many to join in as possible.


Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


40 posted on 10/24/2006 2:51:07 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The Quebec Ministry of Education has told unlicensed Christian evangelical schools that they must teach Darwin's theory of evolution and sex education or close their doors after a school board in the Outaouais region complained the provincial curriculum was not being followed.

Excellent.

41 posted on 10/24/2006 2:58:50 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: VadeRetro; shuckmaster; DaveLoneRanger; DelphiUser; 4CJ; Nathan Zachary; VOA

I ignored your post that scientific progress has been made these past 150 years? Well of course. Duh.

From your lack of response to the elements of my posts we can agree that:

1. Ignorance of Darwinism does not preclude scientific brilliance.
2. Creationism never hurt anyone.
3. Another theory called Marxism murdered hundreds of millions.
4. Only radical lefties get lathered about what does not concern them.

Speaking of progress, the US did quite well for almost 200 years before the banning of prayer in public schools. Are we better off?


42 posted on 10/24/2006 2:59:10 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Jacquerie
You relentlessly persist in fallacy.

Ignorance of Darwinism does not preclude scientific brilliance.

Knowledge is not to be confused with intelligence. Still, people with lots of one tend to have lots of the other.

Creationism never hurt anyone.

This is like saying a little white lie never hurt anyone. Creationist literature is almost entirely a body of discredited screeches against evolution, geology, cosmology, nuclear chemistry, astronomy, paleontology, etc. It isn't just wrong--it's a lie. There isn't a good penny in the whole canon of creo talking points, but every creationist just shows up with the same talking points day after day, feigning amnesia for what happened the last 23 times.

Another theory called Marxism murdered hundreds of millions.

Now there's tight logic! Ignorance is safer than Marxism! And I guess it's colder in Alaska than it is in the winter.

Only radical lefties get lathered about what does not concern them.

Funny, you look mightily concerned about the content of science class, but I don't get the idea you give a rat's butt about science. Does that make you a commie?

43 posted on 10/24/2006 3:13:50 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: VadeRetro
Ignorance of Darwinism does not preclude scientific brilliance.

I might also say that it's hard to push the envelope of human knowledge if you don't have the last several hundred years worth of work in your field under your own belt as a starting point.

44 posted on 10/24/2006 3:20:10 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: VadeRetro; shuckmaster; DaveLoneRanger; DelphiUser; 4CJ; Nathan Zachary; VOA
Do you think that you or the government or anyone else have the constitutional authority to ban religious teaching in a religious school?
45 posted on 10/24/2006 3:29:53 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: shuckmaster

So you don't believe that people are free to believe what they want to believe? You want to force your horse crap down their throats instead huh?


46 posted on 10/24/2006 3:30:48 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Jacquerie
Ignorance of Darwinism does not preclude scientific brilliance.

Is this the best you can understand about what is happening? Is Canada forbidding religious schools to do religious instruction?

I do not believe you are dealing with what you understand. Is it easier to slay strawmen?

Canada is saying that a student educated in Canada should be able to meet some minimal standard of being educated. That means you have to provide, in science class, some instruction in science as opposed to in "How Science is Wrong." Nothing in this says you can't provide religious instruction in other classes.

Now that I've explained that, I would think further confusion would be impossible ... except that I know that such logic is naive. Creationists aren't just ignorant, they're people who embrace ignorance and think it's a weapon of some sort. Militantly ignorant.

47 posted on 10/24/2006 3:40:37 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: Khepera
You want to force your horse crap down their throats instead huh?

Can you say, "projection," boys and girls? I know you could.

At issue is science class: does science go in it? Canada is saying it has the right to close educational institutions that refuse to educate.

48 posted on 10/24/2006 3:42:38 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: Jacquerie

Do you think that you or the government or anyone else have the constitutional authority to ban religious teaching in a religious school?

Ughh, I doubt if anyone on FR would advocate that. What kind of question is that? Did you mean 'public' school instead of 'religious' school?

49 posted on 10/24/2006 3:44:40 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: VadeRetro; shuckmaster; DaveLoneRanger; DelphiUser; 4CJ; Nathan Zachary; VOA

We all understand that you think evangelicals are knuckle draggers. Forget Canada. My question cuts to the nub.

I say again:

Do you think that you or the government or anyone else have the constitutional authority to ban religious teaching in a religious school?

Yes nor no?


50 posted on 10/24/2006 3:46:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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