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A Return to Triangulation (libertarion vs social right)
National Review Online ^ | 10/25/06 | David Boaz & David Kirby

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish

As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a “fast” from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Rove’s 2006 campaign strategy.

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Tap, tap, tap. Is this thing still working?. Tap, tap. I guess so.
1,081 posted on 10/27/2006 2:13:21 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: ArGee; Blackirish
ArGee: I hereby nominate Blackirish for membership in BRAAD for meritorious service to FR above and beyond the call of duty.
(Retroactive, of course)

What say you, O Fearless Leader?

1,082 posted on 10/27/2006 2:14:49 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Jim Robinson; wyattearp; WKB

Do you not recognize tongue in cheek when you see it?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725737/posts?page=996#996

A sense of humor is not an evolutionists strong point. That's probably why they walk around with such a chip on their shoulder. They're so easy.


1,083 posted on 10/27/2006 2:17:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: satchmodog9; AndrewC; jwalsh07
Not all evos think Dawkins is correct. He is like Pat Robertson to a lot of us. He is an opinion and I think, an odious one at that.

He's probably the greatest theologian alive today.

1,084 posted on 10/27/2006 2:20:37 PM PDT by Virginia-American (Don't bring a comic book to an encyclopedia fight)
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To: Virginia-American

He's probably the greatest theologian alive today.

;^)

1,085 posted on 10/27/2006 2:30:30 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: metmom
They think they came from monkeys.
Their whole life evolves(no pun intended)
around a bunch of old dry bones.
They think all there is to living is
what can be found in the few short
years we have here on earth.
You are born, you live and you die. That's it!! What a miserable life that must be. They really don't have any reason to laugh
or smile when you think about it.
1,086 posted on 10/27/2006 2:30:43 PM PDT by WKB (I Refuse To Have A Battle Of Wits With An Unarmed Person.)
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To: WKB

It's a scientific theory, not a way of life, not a religion, it has no effect on the way we live our lives, most of us are theistic.

Where do you people come up with this stuff?

Or, why is it so important to you, that evolution be looked at as a religion, instead of the scientific theory that it is.

Why does science threaten your religion, and why are people that understand evolution, and science, such a threat to you?


1,087 posted on 10/27/2006 2:48:24 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you not recognize tongue in cheek when you see it?

You are saying the "loyalty oath" was tongue in cheek?

I am overjoyed to hear that. I was about to post a message on my home page to the effect that "I am no longer posting."

Your comments on this thread, and a comment just made on another thread asking, "Since when did Freerepublic have an intelligent science community?" were just too much for this reasonably intelligent (on a good day) scientist.

Thank you for the clarification.

1,088 posted on 10/27/2006 2:49:26 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Virginia-American; AndrewC; jwalsh07; satchmodog9
satchmodog9:Not all evos think Dawkins is correct. He is like Pat Robertson to a lot of us. He is an opinion and I think, an odious one at that.

V-A:He's probably the greatest theologian alive today.

So I thought Darwinism was not a religion and now here your telling us that Dawkins is probably the greatest theologian alive today. Make up your minds.

Warning: This may be sarcasm.... I think; because you certainly cannot be referring to Pat Robertson when stating that *he* is the greatest theologian alive today.

1,089 posted on 10/27/2006 2:52:13 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jaguarbhzrd; WKB

Because you defend it with religious fervor and tolerate no dissent. And apparently are more than happy to allow the courts to force in on an unwilling public.


1,090 posted on 10/27/2006 2:54:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coyoteman
...anywhere, anytime, on this planet, or in any life hereafter, for all time and forevermore.

Doesn't smack of tongue in cheek to you? *sigh*

1,091 posted on 10/27/2006 2:56:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It shouldn't be forced on anyone, unless they are taking a science course, and then they need to learn at least the basics of it. It should be taught in science class, not in a social studies course, a religious studies course, a theology course etc, now ID on the other hand, that should be taught in a religious studies course, or a theology course, but not in a science course.

Pretty simple if you ask me, teach science in science class, if it's not science, then it shouldn't be taught there.

Evolution is scientific, ID is not.


1,092 posted on 10/27/2006 3:00:26 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: metmom

I thought she meant Pat Robertson. I was scratching my head over that one!


1,093 posted on 10/27/2006 3:03:56 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: metmom

The only reason that it went to court was because the school boards were trying to force a nonscientific hypothesis, namely ID, onto an unwilling public, who believed, and rightly so, that it had not gone through the scientific rigors that evolution had, and until it has, it has no place in a science classroom.

The court agreed.

ID is trying to slip in via a public school curriculum, instead of through scientifically rigorous tests of it's hypothesis. This is not the way science is done.

Popular vote, schoolboard vote etc, does not a scientific theory make.


1,094 posted on 10/27/2006 3:11:02 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: WKB; metmom; Jim Robinson; Sam's Army
They think all there is to living is

How dare you!

Moments ago, I just left a retirement ceremony for one of my best friends retiring as a Lt Col USAF. We stood together under the flag of the United States as the national anthem played. One of my thoughts was of all the flag draped coffins and national anthems being played for the heroes that have died over the past year. Some of my friends are over there right this minute. Very moving and poignant moment.

I have spent the better part of my adult life (with a brief hiatus to NASA) defending this nation both in and out of uniform. I stood many a watch during the cold war both in various control rooms and crammed in the back seat of F4s waiting for the Soviets to push thru the Fulda Gap. I also assisted during that terrible day now referred to as 9/11.

And to be called a Marxist and/or communist?

What an evil affront! /rant off.

1,095 posted on 10/27/2006 3:12:29 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Thank you for your service, this conservative appreciates it.


1,096 posted on 10/27/2006 3:17:09 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: jwalsh07
Do you support the Missouri Amendment?

Is that the one that pretends to support stem cell research but actually authorizes cloning? (Sorry I'm a little vague on it; I don't live in Missouri and haven't been following it very closely).

But to be clear on the underlying question, I support stem cell research to the extent President Bush does. As far as I have been able to discern, all the advances in stem cell research have come through the use of adult stem cells or neonatal stem cells, and nothing at all of any use has resulted from embryonic stem cells. By "of any use," I mean anything successful.

Michael Fumento has done some excellent reporting on this subject.

I do not support human cloning, and I most certainly do not support government funding for human cloning.

1,097 posted on 10/27/2006 3:22:35 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: RadioAstronomer

Thank You Patriot!
1,098 posted on 10/27/2006 3:25:08 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: WKB; metmom
Many of us have served during the Viet Nam Era, Cold War era and have been at the pointy end of the spear.

2-1Cavalry Unit History

Wolf
1,099 posted on 10/27/2006 3:28:44 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: AndrewC; jwalsh07
Gotta reject the evolution Richard Dawkins believes in.

The Pope points out (elsewhere in his document), that there are, more properly theories of evolution. My reading of the Pope's statement is that he accepts speciation, but not the idea that man is indistinguishable from any other animal. Man's having a soul is why he is in the image and likeness of God, and what sets him apart from animals. And that that could not have come about by any natural process.

That would appear to put JPII in the "theistic evolution" camp.

1,100 posted on 10/27/2006 3:29:56 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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