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A Return to Triangulation (libertarion vs social right)
National Review Online ^ | 10/25/06 | David Boaz & David Kirby

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish

As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a “fast” from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Rove’s 2006 campaign strategy.

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To: CWOJackson

I saw an LP candidate in the Maryland Senate debate tonight. His main issues were immediate witdrawal from Iraq, single payer health care for all and more access to abortion. I was astounded.


261 posted on 10/25/2006 8:57:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: HKMk23
I've had GREAT discussions in my lifetime with others whos views were diametrically opposed to my own on many differing topics. Tone, demeanor, manners, and mutual respect made ALL the difference. So, I submit to you that it is not "anti-science" or "pro-science" Conservatives who are sullying FR, and, by extension, the whole Conservative movement; it is anti-social, rude, impertinent, foul-mouthed, posters who lack manners, respect and self-control who are sullying FR, and, by extension, the whole Conservative movement.

I can get behind that 100%.

Bad posters drive away good posters.

262 posted on 10/25/2006 8:57:38 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: HKMk23

Yup. you pegged it. And that's why I avoid those threads like the plague.


263 posted on 10/25/2006 8:57:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: wyattearp

There is really something sad about seeing Wyatt Earp and the Lone Ranger taking shots at each other.


264 posted on 10/25/2006 8:57:44 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

BTTT.

The only reason, for instance, that porn and sodomy are legal, is because of nanny state judicial activism. Let individual communities decide for themselves - state or even more local. Would liber(al)tarians like this? No - that want such crap forced down everyone's throat by the JBThuggery of big government.

And they have the gall to label me and others like me as nanny staters.

I am in favor of cutting all - state and fedgov - spending by 50%, for a start. A lot of social problems will wither on the vine once the teat dries up.


265 posted on 10/25/2006 8:57:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Blackirish
Leave nanny statism to the dims.

Correct. Don't nominate a big government fop like Giuliani in 2008!

266 posted on 10/25/2006 8:58:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (I have such a raging clue!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Creationists are frequently accused of being anti-science...

Because some of them think the universe and the earth are 6000 years old. One must toss out a lot of science, and all that that science implies and infers, to take such a ridiculously irrational position.

267 posted on 10/25/2006 8:58:37 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: Blackirish
Lame dodge...sparky, you're to one who brought up polling. Asking where your LP/lp candidates are showing up on the polls may be embarrassing but germane.
268 posted on 10/25/2006 8:59:18 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Ichneumon

Free enterprise dictates that you go out and start your own thing.

Just do it.


269 posted on 10/25/2006 8:59:27 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: Dominic Harr; Godebert
Well, as I said, I'm a social liberal, political conservative.... I'm pro-gay marriage.

You are just a liberal period. There is nothing politically conservative (or biological) about homosexuality and establishing it into the secular law.

270 posted on 10/25/2006 8:59:57 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: metmom

Another great post!


271 posted on 10/25/2006 9:00:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Liberal Classic

I said that I'd heard this to be the case, disclosed my source, said if it was untrue, I'd be more than happy to admit the error. I did not put it forth as unassailable fact. What was the main thrust of the argument? That there is a lot scientists still don't know. Is that main point true? Yes. Were the examples listed accurate? I cannot confirm them, so I'll withdraw them as examples, but maintain my original point.

Let's try to keep the personal quibbles off of this thread, though.


272 posted on 10/25/2006 9:01:00 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: GourmetDan
Both parties are involved in pushing America into hell, both financially and socially. It's only a matter of how fast. Repubs just go a little slower than Dems.

"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected." - GK Chesterton

273 posted on 10/25/2006 9:01:01 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Blackirish
"Well...Romney...Rudy..Newt are...McCaine all polling very well.

The darlings of the social right...Allen...Brownback ..are polling SINGLE digits."

All that you posted there are Republicans (several are of the RINO type), where are the Libertarians you speak of?
274 posted on 10/25/2006 9:01:18 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Demonrats want the Gays out of Congress.....stand back and let them purge their base.)
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To: Jim Robinson
the government forcing the theory of evolution and other socialist dogma

Your statement implies that the theory of evortion is "socialist dogma". That is an incorrect statement. The theory of evolution has no inherent political bias.
275 posted on 10/25/2006 9:01:22 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

LOL. Right.


276 posted on 10/25/2006 9:02:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Dude, you opened your mouth without engaging your brain. Take some science classes, for Pete's sake.


277 posted on 10/25/2006 9:02:53 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: metmom

I want the evolutionists off of educational welfare. They are not entitled to some kind of affirmative action in the classroom...

And I am an athiest saying this... I am tired of these people throwing sh*t on the Christians. The Christians pay the vast majority of taxes in this country...


278 posted on 10/25/2006 9:03:39 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: VadeRetro
... On FR, the following topics are controversial: ...

Hey, listen! Any subject is controversial if we allow it. There are people here solely to cause division. Any topic. Any wedge they can drive. Any negativity they can spread.

Intelligent debate is what we want. Intolerant argument is what these counter-productive elements give us.

279 posted on 10/25/2006 9:03:53 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Jim Robinson
What part of "I have no problem with science" did you not understand? I do, however, have a great problem with the Godless Marxist ACLU influenced big government forcing evolution theory

Evolution *is* science. It is foundational to our modern understanding to biology. Students are "forced" to learn evolution life science class for the same reason students are "forced" to algebra in math class.

280 posted on 10/25/2006 9:04:21 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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