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A Return to Triangulation (libertarion vs social right)
National Review Online ^ | 10/25/06 | David Boaz & David Kirby

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish

As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a “fast” from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Rove’s 2006 campaign strategy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I guess if I got involved, the thread would just spontaneously combust, huh?

I dub thee..."Captain Napalm" !

Cheers!

281 posted on 10/25/2006 9:04:59 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: eleni121

Evos have their own site they are constantly sending people to and it's Darwin Central. A very interesting place where all the foibles of FR don't exist or are not tolerated. They can go there if they don't like the way FR is run, then they'd havbe no complaints.


282 posted on 10/25/2006 9:05:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I have not heard of social conservatives abandoning Bush, and being a social conservative, I should have gotten the memo.


283 posted on 10/25/2006 9:05:58 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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To: metmom
A contingent but not the mainstream. I also don't see what some of that even has to do with the ToE and one's acceptance of it or being pro or anti science. SOme of it's just sheer whackiness. But call a spade a spade.

That's rather laughable. I don't recall you ever calling "a spade a spade." When have you ever told any of these nutjobs that they are not only damaging conservatism, but also Christianity by their lunatic ramblings, Moonie affiliations, or anything else for that matter?

Don't label the whole group based on the actions of a few who are either not really part of the group...

Hold that thought. The person who deploys the "creation ping list" is the biggest recent distributor of Moonie propaganda on FR. And you have said - nothing. Ok, back to our regularly scheduled paragraph...

...or could just plain be trolls coming in from DU on "suicide runs" just to stir things up and make real Christians and creationists look bad.

Stand up to them. Once. Tell them what you think of their actions. Once. Tell them that they are wrong. Once. But you wont, because you agree with them on the subject of evolution, so you are willing to let them do or say anything, as long as they say that one thing that you agree with. That speaks of hypocricy.

284 posted on 10/25/2006 9:06:55 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Just clicked on your name, can't believe I didn't get the baby blue page of death!


285 posted on 10/25/2006 9:06:58 PM PDT by stands2reason (Setec Astronomy)
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To: eleni121
It is, in fact, Creationists and ID adherents who are the true scientists here...and Darwinoid evolutionists who cannot bear the scrutiny of their flimsy work.

You make this claim, yet when asked to support your previous claim that "over 500 doctoral dissertations" were written on the subject of Piltdown Man, you refused to subject your claim to scrutiny. It would appear that you have established a double standard.
286 posted on 10/25/2006 9:07:09 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: jwalsh07
Don't lose any sleep over it, there aren't that many folks who care what revolves around Saturn.

As I posted before, the problem is not the "geo"-centrists, it's all the "ego"-centrists.

That, and the problem orbiting not Saturn, but Uranus ;-)

Cheers!

287 posted on 10/25/2006 9:08:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: metmom

I've heard of it. I wonder if creationists are as welcome there as they are here...mmm.


288 posted on 10/25/2006 9:08:50 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: Liberal Classic
Creationists are frequently accused of being anti-science either because they...

...don't actually know any science.

___________________________________

Thanks for providing the impromptu emphasis for my point about posters who "cannot simply, politely, answer a point or observation, but simply MUST insert their snide little goads..."

Would you be open to considering the notion that your tone was unduly imperious and snotty and that such a tone just MIGHT be tributary to the overall problem being so lamented in this thread?

289 posted on 10/25/2006 9:09:01 PM PDT by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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To: Beagle8U; CWOJackson
I already addressed your points in post 218.

Try to keep up.
290 posted on 10/25/2006 9:09:07 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I am tired of these people throwing sh*t on the Christians.

I'm not a psychiatrist trained in Freudian methods, but I think you seem to have an anal fixation.

291 posted on 10/25/2006 9:09:31 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Jim Robinson
LOL. Right.

Are you agreeing with my statement, or did you forget to provide evidence for a rebuttal?
292 posted on 10/25/2006 9:09:50 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Did you know we are still considered a great ape? ...anti evolution nonsense makes the republicans look just plain pig ignorant.

Now why should I, as a reasonable person, be concerned about what I look like to someone who believes himself to be a "great ape". sheesh. ; D

293 posted on 10/25/2006 9:10:22 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Dimensio

I have seen this request on your part before (it must be you)...but I confess I do not remember. Just let me know the reference and I will try to humor you at some point by the end of the week.


294 posted on 10/25/2006 9:10:34 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: Dimensio
" That is an incorrect statement. The theory of evolution has no inherent political bias."

Great! That means you have no bias against having ID taught as a companion theory along with evolution in public schools?
295 posted on 10/25/2006 9:11:05 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Demonrats want the Gays out of Congress.....stand back and let them purge their base.)
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To: Blackirish
LOL! Your explanation was kind of like the win column at the LP website...zip, zero, nada...nothing.
296 posted on 10/25/2006 9:12:08 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: HKMk23
Re: Your post 248 this thread.

That is the closest thing to a perfect post on the Crevo topics as I've ever seen!

...and your tagline echoes something I've always said to myself but never put in writing.

Cheers!

297 posted on 10/25/2006 9:12:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: Blackirish
"I already addressed your points in post 218."

I think you forgot the postage skippy, nobody got the memo.
298 posted on 10/25/2006 9:13:55 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Demonrats want the Gays out of Congress.....stand back and let them purge their base.)
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To: VadeRetro

Just because some of use believe intelligent design or GASP creation to be a more logical interpretation of the world around us does not mean we are at war with science or do not like its benefits.

I use science every day, and my patients benefit from my knowledge of biology, physiology, pharmacology and a lot of other ologies. I also read enough papers and studied statistics enough to know that one can make research and statistics say pretty much what they want.

I am a scientist and a creationist, and there are growing numbers of us. WE do not discredit the Republican party - most of us are pretty intelligent and thoughful. I don't accuse your group of being knuckle dragging neanderthals for swallowing evolution hook, line and sinker, and would appreciate similar toning of the rhetoric on your side.

I think the internecine warfare discredits the conservatives far more than the creation/evolution debate. I don't know why the conservative movement tends to eat its own, while the dems are very good at keeping their attacks focused on the conservatives.

(Putting on asbestos underwear)

And by the way, I have not been anything less than civil on these threads, but have been called some pretty awful things for the gentleman that was decrying the "uneven" moderation on the threads.


299 posted on 10/25/2006 9:14:28 PM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Beagle8U
Great! That means you have no bias against having ID taught as a companion theory along with evolution in public schools?

"Intelligent Design" does not qualify as science, and as such it is not appropriate to teach it as a "companion" to the theory of evolution.
300 posted on 10/25/2006 9:15:05 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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