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A Return to Triangulation (libertarion vs social right)
National Review Online ^ | 10/25/06 | David Boaz & David Kirby

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish

As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a “fast” from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Rove’s 2006 campaign strategy.

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To: CWOJackson
I've never really figured out just what a small "l" libertarian is. From my experience with them they are nothing more then someone with some sort of axe to grind with the GOP and hiding behind the LP. They all hide their particular grudge behind the "small l" label.

I've explained it to you personally countless times. Are you claiming that you have no axe whatsoever to grind with the GOP when it comes to small-government issues? Are you satisfied with the Medicare Prescription Benefit? No Child Left Behind? A small-l libertarian is a Republican who fights for a limited-government from within the party. JimRob has endorsed this strategy and supports Ron Paul's Republican Liberty Caucus and allows them to host their forum here on FR's servers.

601 posted on 10/26/2006 10:37:25 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: CWOJackson
And which Libertarian/libertarian candidate is polling anywhere above 2%?

Ron Paul is cruising to victory in his district. Mike Pence too.

602 posted on 10/26/2006 10:44:20 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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Exhibit Z


603 posted on 10/26/2006 10:51:07 AM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
You are thinking with the appendage at the wrong end of the spinal column...

Conservatism, and FR, truly needs more people like you.

604 posted on 10/26/2006 11:05:05 AM PDT by jennyp (The ennui of the short-timer)
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To: Jim Robinson
I do, however, have a great problem with the Godless Marxist ACLU influenced big government forcing evolution theory, homosexuality, feminism, whacko environmentalism, earth worship, paganism, even Islamic fascism on our children in public schools while simultaneously trying to remove all mention of God and Christianity from their daily lives

Amen, and that's all Christians asked for too, in spite of protestations to the contrary.

605 posted on 10/26/2006 11:13:49 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: 1000 silverlings

And even many who aren't labeled Christians abhor the ACLU etc's war against Christianity. A war against Christianity is a war against all those who believe in God.


606 posted on 10/26/2006 11:18:39 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
And even many who aren't labeled Christians abhor the ACLU etc's war against Christianity.

I'm not, and I don't like their war. It cannot be on a church/state separation principle for them, since I've never heard of them attacking Islam in the public square.

However, my anger towards them has to be tempered since I know they've won several cases on religious freedom for Christians. They aren't consistent.

607 posted on 10/26/2006 11:40:20 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Jim Robinson
So, to recap:
  1. Patrick Henry's homepage mysteriously disappears back in March.
  2. He and several others ask the mods & Jim Robinson what happened, thinking maybe it was either a software glitch, another member who had decided to break into his account & do some petty vandalism, or a rogue mod who decided to break into his account & do some petty vandalism.
  3. Patrick Henry restores his homepage, which soon disappears again.
  4. Again he & others ask the management of this website to look into the mysterious vandalism.
  5. No response from management.
  6. Now it's revealed that it was Jim Robinson himself who decided to secretly vandalize Patrick Henry's homepage, and to sit back and not say anything about it, but rather watch the little pissant members scurry around wondering what the hell happened and why the management of the world's premier conservative website aren't saying anything. Instead of doing something more professional, accountable and adult like warning/suspending/banning him and/or us.
  7. All this while, Jim Robinson was happily cashing Patrick Henry's quarterly checks.
  8. Now Jim Robinson wants us to know of his courageous action, while at the same time feigning ignorance of the whole incident.

IMO, this is the kind of professional, responsible management that we need to see more of at prominent conservative websites.

GIVE 'EM HELL, JIMROB! WOO HOO!!!

To: Ichneumon

The mods don't have access to the posters' profile pages. I do. And I've removed a few of them. Those that I have removed should take it as a warning (if I didn't ban them in the process).

240 posted on 10/25/2006 8:41:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

To: Jim Robinson
The mods don't have access to the posters' profile pages. I do. And I've removed a few of them. Those that I have removed should take it as a warning (if I didn't ban them in the process).

Are you saying that you're the one who kept deleting PatrickHenry's homepage back in (March, IIRC)?

387 posted on 10/25/2006 9:56:39 PM PDT by jennyp (There's ALWAYS time for jibber jabber!)

To: jennyp

Yup.

395 posted on 10/25/2006 10:00:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson


To: Jim Robinson

What the hell for?

431 posted on 10/25/2006 10:25:32 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)

To: Jim Robinson
Yup.

I see. And so when he and several of us asked what the heck was going on - i.e. was this just a weird software glitch, or had some other member broken into PH's account to do a little vandalism, or had some petty tyrant mod or other PTB decided to up and rip down a member's homepage, or what, it was you who decided not to say word one?

445 posted on 10/25/2006 10:38:14 PM PDT by jennyp (There's ALWAYS time for jibber jabber!)

To: jennyp

Actually, I only vaguely remember the incident. Chances are, I probably had them all on ignore which is probably better than banning the whole lot.

456 posted on 10/25/2006 10:41:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

608 posted on 10/26/2006 11:47:02 AM PDT by jennyp (The ennui of the short-timer)
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To: jennyp

Well, life sucks and then you die. Or not. Depending on Whom you believe.


609 posted on 10/26/2006 12:02:38 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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For Further Info, See Here
610 posted on 10/26/2006 12:10:43 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: jennyp

Please don't forget sarcasm tags!


611 posted on 10/26/2006 12:26:25 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: nopardons

Don't worry. It's probably the last one.


612 posted on 10/26/2006 12:56:53 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: nopardons

Forget about the topic. This is an important thread.


613 posted on 10/26/2006 1:09:24 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: antiRepublicrat

The ACLU is so consistently on the dark side that any good deeds they have done are under the category of "even a stopped clock". And, of course, their method of threatening small communities with crazy lawsuits solely to enrich their coffers is more than odious and anti-freedom. They are basically fuelled by taxpayer money, by shaking down one town after another.


614 posted on 10/26/2006 1:16:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: jennyp
Wasn't mysterious and wasn't vandalism. I sometimes pull posts. I sometimes pull profile pages. It's part of the job. Whether or not a poster is a donor doesn't enter into my moderating decisions. Like the man said, it happens.
615 posted on 10/26/2006 1:20:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: jennyp; Jim Robinson

So, what's the big issue anyway? PH's mysteriously disappearing homepage keeps popping up on other evos homepages anyway. It's not gone, just relocated in many different spots. I wonder why that was never mentioned?


616 posted on 10/26/2006 1:22:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: little jeremiah

Here's a thread you might be interested in.

Citizens Make Stand Against ACLU In Tennessee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726166/posts

Jay 777 has a *Stop the ACLU* ping list.


617 posted on 10/26/2006 1:25:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RunningWolf

So sorry to hear that. NOT!!!


618 posted on 10/26/2006 1:31:20 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: jennyp

Umm, never mind about PH's homepage clones, I see lots of white these days.


619 posted on 10/26/2006 1:34:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Wasn't mysterious and wasn't vandalism. I sometimes pull posts. I sometimes pull profile pages. It's part of the job. Whether or not a poster is a donor doesn't enter into my moderating decisions. Like the man said, it happens.

When a post gets pulled, it says "Post removed by moderator". When you pull someone's homepage, it says "". There's absolutely no indication that management has done something deliberate. Then when PH & others tried to find out what happened, you said "".

Do you see the slightest problem with this scenario?

620 posted on 10/26/2006 1:51:01 PM PDT by jennyp (The ennui of the short-timer)
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To: metmom

When I'm actively pinging the Moral Absolutes list, I often ping out the ACLU articles. The ACLU is the poster child of all that is evil about liberalism. I'll check out that thread, thanks.


621 posted on 10/26/2006 1:59:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Jim Robinson; jennyp; All
Wasn't mysterious and wasn't vandalism. I sometimes pull posts. I sometimes pull profile pages. It's part of the job. Whether or not a poster is a donor doesn't enter into my moderating decisions. Like the man said, it happens.

If I may add my 2¢
Just because someone donates money to FR doesn't mean they "bought Stock" in the company.
People donate to FR to keep it going.

Jim's House, Jim's Rules. It's that simple.
As far a being banned goes......
I'll say this much. I'm one of those "dollar a day FReepers" for many years, in fact..... and I've been banned before.
So what. Big deal. I'm still here.
Perhaps a bit wiser for it all.
</rant>

622 posted on 10/26/2006 2:08:09 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: jennyp
Do you see the slightest problem with this scenario?

Well, it shouldn't be a problem to you. Random mutation followed by natural selection explains it.

623 posted on 10/26/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: antiRepublicrat
Well, that's part of my point. When used as POLITICAL tools, evolution, homosexualism, global warming, abortionism, stem cell research, etc, are not science. They are phony balonyism. I think we can all agree that politicians and political zealots are not scientists.

And I also think we can all agree that the left has long used the theory of evolution in its attempts to destroy religion. Just like the US Constitution, religion and moral society must be destroyed in order for the leftists to succeed in their long term goal of ushering in a socialist Utopia.

And more recently, IMHO, homosexualism, feminism, abortionism, global warmingism, stem cell researchism, etc, have all been added along side evolutionism to the Marxist left's tool box of isms.

I say they're "Marxist" because the modern day Marxists, ie, the socialists and liberals, the ACLU, the Democrat Party itself, and the left-leaning main stream media all use these issues not as tools of genuine and sincere science, but as POLITICAL WEAPONS against us.

And I see it as a shame and disgrace that they have so many willing accomplices on the right aiding and abetting their subversive intentions.

624 posted on 10/26/2006 2:12:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: jennyp

Obviously, no.


625 posted on 10/26/2006 2:13:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: AndrewC

LOL! That's perfect!


626 posted on 10/26/2006 2:18:02 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Imagine a world without car commercials.)
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To: antiRepublicrat; Liberal Classic
"What do you think people are going to notice when they log on to your site? They are going to remember some nut who says dinosaurs walked with humans."

I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that. But, of course, I avoid the evolution threads like the plague, so I may have missed it. And I think most sane and rational thinking people would avoid also those threads, so no problem. I'm not all that worried about a few nutcases.

627 posted on 10/26/2006 2:36:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: taxesareforever
Tell us again, O wise one, how it isn't wrong to have slaves and the moon landings were faked.

Truly, thou art the vanguard of the conservative movement.

628 posted on 10/26/2006 2:39:46 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: muir_redwoods; Beagle8U

More like 76.5% of Americans are religious Chrstians...but the number is growing thankfully.



http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions


629 posted on 10/26/2006 2:43:14 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: Liberal Classic
Truly, thou art the vanguard of the conservative movement.

I take that as a compliment.

630 posted on 10/26/2006 3:01:05 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: eleni121
Whatever the %, its alot. Much more than the Godless RATS will admit. 76.5% and 8.5% Jewish would come close to the 85% I mentioned?
631 posted on 10/26/2006 3:06:01 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Demonrats want the Gays out of Congress.....stand back and let them purge their base.)
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To: Beagle8U

Yes, of course. The main strength and moral compass of this nation and indeed the world is its Christian (and Jewish) population.


632 posted on 10/26/2006 3:08:29 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: Fiddlstix; Jim Robinson
Just because someone donates money to FR doesn't mean they "bought Stock" in the company.

I guess that's why we are not permitted to vote annoying posters off the island...lol. Maybe we need to evolve, huh?

One more thing. You might have been suspended before, but never banned. :)

633 posted on 10/26/2006 4:02:37 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
......Maybe we need to evolve, huh?

LOL! Yep. That'll work J

Wow!
Click the Pic

634 posted on 10/26/2006 4:26:04 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix


Funny graphic --- ape to the computer age and no women or clothing in between. Wow, that evolution stuff is mysterious. :)


635 posted on 10/26/2006 4:31:27 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
.......Wow, that evolution stuff is mysterious. :)

LOL! It sure is J

636 posted on 10/26/2006 4:35:35 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix


Are we hijacking this oh so serious thread?


637 posted on 10/26/2006 4:36:26 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
Are we hijacking this oh so serious thread?

Looks like. But at least we're making it a fun hijacking. LOL

638 posted on 10/26/2006 4:40:42 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

How about some James Brown? I feel good!!!!!


639 posted on 10/26/2006 4:41:33 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
How about some James Brown? I feel good!!!!!

Okay. Click Snoopy J

I Feel Good!

640 posted on 10/26/2006 4:44:44 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

:)


641 posted on 10/26/2006 4:45:32 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
J
642 posted on 10/26/2006 4:46:40 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

Shall we let this thread die and see if it gets resurrected?


643 posted on 10/26/2006 4:49:44 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
Yes. I think we should J
644 posted on 10/26/2006 4:51:01 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

645 posted on 10/26/2006 4:52:52 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
This Thread Needs
Click The Pic
Click the Pic J
More Cowbell!

646 posted on 10/26/2006 4:55:03 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix


Excellent.


647 posted on 10/26/2006 4:55:46 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
Thanky Ma'am J
648 posted on 10/26/2006 4:57:37 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix
Look who claims she has "evolved" now.
649 posted on 10/26/2006 4:59:35 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
ROTFL!!! If ANYBODY needs to it's her!
(Maybe she might even become human)
650 posted on 10/26/2006 5:01:48 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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