Skip to comments.A Return to Triangulation (libertarion vs social right)
Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish
As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a fast from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Roves 2006 campaign strategy.
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I have asserted no inncoence. I am merely requesting clarification of your claim.
Apparently, you've never been on a "crevo" thread.
You are mistaken. I have witnessed many such discussions, and I have participated in many of them as well.
I don't know. Just shooting fish in a barrel I guess.
Thank YOU, Jim, for recognizing a REAL problem here.
If it is "not worth the effort" to support your claim with evidence, why then did you make the claim?
Dimensio...you have been a TROLL from day one.
It's so nice to see that others have finally figured you out.
These are battles?
He's your twee boy-toy, is he? How precious.............NOT!
See, now he won't make you one, and you don't know what you're missing. Seriously.
"You assume too much importance."
That is the understatement of the year!
This one is.........dull.
So is homework-get your rest.
Sort of a Jets-versus-Sharks style battle, sure.
This is a topic I can fully support.
I'm sick of this crap.
Have a wonderful evening.
I'll leave it to each poster to decide which of the cre's / evo's side is Calvin, and which is Hobbes.
Please spare us all from sordid details about what else the two of you engage in.
Oh, well - I'm gonna retire back to the rear echelons there and put my feet up for a while. This battling thing wears a fella out, ya know.
See you on the flip side, ML :)
And here I thought FR was some kind of intellectually oriented site.
Me? I'm laughing, uproariously, at your fatuousness.
How bout over there-Yer Majesty~
You have every right to be angry.
Just this: You are no liar.
You've been betrayed.
FR and the Republican party left YOU.
The fault and shame is theirs.
Get thee to an AA meeting. :-)
Pleasant dreams.................... :-)
How nice of you to finally admit to what the two of you have been trying to pass off as scintillating wit.
Good night and pleasant dreams.......................
nopardons,pretty sad to debate people in highschool for a science forum with people I used to respect.
I wouldn't say "fall apart" so much as to say our models become inaccurate close to the beginning of time. No one in science declares answes with the same kind of certainty and authority that a pastor or rabbi does. This is not to say that scientific answers aren't authoritative, only that scientific language is always qualified. The language of faith, on the other hand, is typically absolute.
The way I see it, science fills is what we can learn, and faith helps us find those answers that we can't learn (or maybe have a hard time learning) on our own. Science is good at hows and where, while faith answers why. I don't believe there is any conflict between science and faith, because I've worked with too many scientists and engineers who have it. The theological position of the mainstream of Christianity and Judaism is that the Lord exists beyond scientific scrutiny.
One thing I've been trying to say on this thread is that it is not only the Dems that want to drive a wedge between religious conservatives and secular conservatives. There are likely elements of both that are repelling each other. I have represented myself as a libertarian for a long time on these threads, and I have often spoken of the need for fiscal and social conservatives to close ranks. The Dems want to see us tear outselves apart. (They have their own internal pressures, too, but that's for a different therad maybe.)
One of the things I've been driving at for the past couple nights is need to recognize that there are some cranks on FR who would be plenty happy to see pro-science people like me banned and gone for good. I'd like to think I am not an outsider here, but a member in good standing.
My purpose for posting has been to get Jim and other readers of this thread to realize that it is not the mainstream Christians causing problems. What we have are some cranks who believe in things like the moon landing was faked, and doctors can't cure disease, and crop circles, and alien abductions, and geocentrism, man walked with dinosaurs, oil doesn't come from fossils, the earth used to orbit Saturn, man was created on another planet, far out stuff. Once you get a couple of nutballs they attract each other like a magnet attracts iron filings. They clump together. They have cloaked themselves in the mantle of mainstream Christianity, and are leading the charge against "evilutionism" and by playing on people's religious sympathies, hope others will join in. These nuts are driving good posters out, and ultimately playing into the hands of the Dems by driving a wedge between religious conservatives and secular conservatives.
I think that you need to explain THAT, in private. Something got very lost along the way.
All of us KNOW that there have been and still are KOOKS posting to FR. Give it up............you aren't serving any function at all. Your "news" is "news" to NOBODY!
Oh, and BTW, you can't be "an outsider" here, as well as "a member in good standing"; that's an oxymoron.
Hi Fatima. Thanks so for the hello.
Hi FRiend,nice to so you.Can we calm things down here?
Go cry to mommy Charlie!
I read an article the other day how as part of a cultural sensitivity class that children were asked to dress up in turbans and robes and fast during the day in observance of the holy month of Ramadan. Hello? I will agree with you whole heartedly something is wrong with a school administration that green lights that while at the same time disallows student-run bible study group. I don't disagree that public schools need reform. A lot of reform, from management to funding to parental involvement.
As a Christian person, I have no problem in believing that part of the creation job of God was what we call evolution as creation moved forward.
This is the exact position of many people I highly respect, and I lean towards something similar myself. Thank you and bless you.
I think I did.
Ah, thanks for that link! I thought I'd never find it again.
Isn't it wonderful that our country has such professors as the one spotlighted in the article, who are dedicated to finding ways to defeat islamofascist terrorists and preserve our security and our American way of life? I'll bet if you asked that scientist, that professor, he'd turn out to be something of a right-winger - just the kind of heroic, pro-American scientist that in earlier times would have been welcomed to FreeRepublic with open arms.
Ah, but ya know, he probably also accepts the godless theory of evolution (maybe he isn't even turned on by Ann Coulter!) so he's probably a Marxist stooge who should not be welcome here. So the management would sooner or later find some flimsy excuse to boot him out.
I wonder who'd be the poorer for that?
No, Jim. I am a freeper. I am neither a troll nor a disruptor, and I've been around a long time. I haven't been sarcastic, snide, or rude to you at all. Your response here to me is childish and petulant, just as nuking Patrick's homepage for no good reason was a childish and petulant prank. Frankly, I expected better of you, and you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
No, I'm not going to agree to those silly terms. They amount to 'I can hit you, but you can't hit me' law of the schoolyard type stuff.
I think you need to take charge of your site before it gets a reputation for being cranky.
So, you have no sense of humor or what?
I thought you left already?
It is odd that you make fun of someone for believing in demons.
OK, that was my first-cup-of-coffee LOL for today!
Simply clicking on evolutionists posting histories at random would provide enough evidence for that, and some are worse than others. A good start is the list you gave.
The question of the day is *Why doesn't he just leave?* along with the rest of the disatisfied, critical malcontents?
Oh wait, I got it, then they can claim to have been banned from FR for their views and wear it like a badge of honor and use it to smear JR and the site.
He's entertaining at the very least; and very precdictable.
"It is our wits that make us men." (Malcolm Wallace in Braveheart).
The real manly appendage is at the top of the spine when a man is standing upright. Since so many men have no spine anymore and are so used to lying down in feminized submissiveness, they cannot tell the difference between which one is for thought.
The impoverished egos of feminized men make me sick.
So, so true. Good science will push out bad.
rwp was banned for no flimsy reason, as I recall. Why does he keep popping up on this thread?
Ah, a "loyalty oath."
Some just have an ax to grind with the Christians and the Jews... I do not. I AM NOT AN ORTHODOX ATHEIST!
In fact, I have very little problem with the Hindu or the Buddhist (I have practiced the martial arts all my life, which is really a form of Buddhist movement meditation).
The Islamics and neo-pagans are another story. Their cultures exist only to tear things down.
Like a few quislings here and there, who have no other purpose but to tear down the conservatives in the Republican party and the culture that made this country what it is, I would rather just openly wage war upon them, just as I would unceremoniously nuke Mecca if given the opportunity.
It is no coincidence Islamic pagans hate Israel, Jews, Christians and Western Civilization. The entire basis of Western Civilization is Mosaic Law, something both the Neo-Pagan Left and the pagan Islamic thugs cannot abide and wish to destroy.
It is truly the only reason some are here now and within the Republican party, interlopers from the left who can only defeat America and the Republicans by rotting the party from the inside out.
The only way the Left can win is to destroy the Republican Party from within. They have lost the public argument and cannot win on the issues, they have to have despotic judges do it for them and they have to undermine conservatives in the Republican primary.
Better than the conditions set by DC. Evos get a lot more leeway here than non-evos get over at DC.
I WANT THE EVOLUTIONISTS OFF OF EDUCATIONAL WELFARE...