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Active Duty GIs Being Recruited To Lobby Congress Against War
The New York Sun ^ | 10/26/06 | ELI LAKE

Posted on 10/26/2006 9:32:13 PM PDT by llevrok

WASHINGTON — Former military generals are criticizing anti-war groups for helping to organize active-duty soldiers to urge Congress to end the war in Iraq. In interviews yesterday, the generals were careful to say they have no objection to enlisted soldiers petitioning Congress as private citizens. It is a different matter, however, to coordinate this drive so close to the midterm elections and publicize it with the aid of anti-war organizations, they said. Yesterday, a company that does public relations for the liberal activist political action committee MoveOn.org, Fenton Communications, organized a conference call for reporters and three active-duty soldiers to unveil the soldiers' anti-war group Appeal for Redress.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iraq; military; moonbats; treason; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 10/26/2006 9:32:14 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

I swear to God, these bastards are treasonous. They should be hung as such.


2 posted on 10/26/2006 9:37:45 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: SandRat

Ping


3 posted on 10/26/2006 9:39:58 PM PDT by llevrok (Spock / Kirk '08)
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To: holdonnow; MarkLevinFan

Ping


4 posted on 10/26/2006 9:40:48 PM PDT by llevrok (Spock / Kirk '08)
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To: llevrok

Arrest them for sedition.


5 posted on 10/26/2006 9:52:19 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: llevrok

actively recruiting Kerry 2.0... they would love nothing else than to turn this into another Vietnam.


6 posted on 10/26/2006 9:52:55 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: llevrok

These soldiers are the next aspiring generation of John Kerrys -- they should watch out that the swift boat vets don't get them and give them a Billy Jack kick in the head!


7 posted on 10/26/2006 9:58:11 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: llevrok

Seems the military hired some morons who don't know the difference between being drafted and volunteering. It's not up to a bunch of E-1s and E-3s to decided when and where we fight. Court martial them and then kick their goatsmellin' asses out!


9 posted on 10/26/2006 10:06:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Today we march! Tomorrow we vote!" They won't be "staying home" on November 7th.)
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To: rtpricetag

Been speaking English long?


10 posted on 10/26/2006 10:08:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Today we march! Tomorrow we vote!" They won't be "staying home" on November 7th.)
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To: llevrok; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...

I don't so much blame/harbor ill feelings to the troops that signed on to this, but I do the sedionists that are recruiting them.


11 posted on 10/26/2006 10:12:07 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

"Been speaking English long?"

It won't be speaking it here, at any rate.


12 posted on 10/26/2006 10:12:09 PM PDT by decal (Building a wall on the border is like treating lung cancer with cough syrup.)
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To: Cinnamon

Sad but true


13 posted on 10/26/2006 10:13:04 PM PDT by Mo1 (GET OUT AND VOTE - SAY NO TO DEMOCRATS)
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To: domenad

Arrest these guys and pardon the Border Patrol Agents!

To hell with seditious pawns! When they finally get out, strip them of their citizenship, and deport them!


14 posted on 10/26/2006 10:30:09 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice
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Excerpt:

WASHINGTON — Former military generals are criticizing anti-war groups for helping to organize active-duty soldiers to urge Congress to end the war in Iraq.

In interviews yesterday, the generals were careful to say they have no objection to enlisted soldiers petitioning Congress as private citizens. It is a different matter, however, to coordinate this drive so close to the midterm elections and publicize it with the aid of anti-war organizations, they said.

Yesterday, a company that does public relations for the liberal activist political action committee MoveOn.org, Fenton Communications, organized a conference call for reporters and three active-duty soldiers to unveil the soldiers' anti-war group Appeal for Redress.

According to its Web site, Appeal for Redress is seeking signatures of active-duty soldiers for a petition that reads in part, "As a patriotic American proud to serve the nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of all American military forces and bases from Iraq."

The group says it now has 213 members.

"I think it is shameful because the timing is so close to the election. They ought to be ashamed of themselves," a retired Air Force lieutenant general, Thomas McInerney, told The New York Sun yesterday by phone from Israel. "The soldiers should be ashamed of themselves for being duped into this. It is to be expected from a MoveOn.org-type group. They have no standards."

15 posted on 10/26/2006 10:36:21 PM PDT by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: Jaysun
Well, they're just following national elected officials like Kerry and Murtha. Those two bastards should be hanged for treason. IMO

(I hope don't hear black helos over my house.)

16 posted on 10/26/2006 10:45:34 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

What was in comment #8?


17 posted on 10/26/2006 10:47:13 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: llevrok
...retired Air Force lieutenant general, Thomas McInerney, told The New York Sun yesterday by phone from Israel. "The soldiers should be ashamed of themselves for being duped into this. It is to be expected from a MoveOn.org-type group. They have no standards."

Nailed it. The article says there are 213 of them in this "moveon.org-type group." Out of how many hundreds of thousands of active duty military? Wonder how long and hard they had to search to find 213.

18 posted on 10/26/2006 10:47:28 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Cobra64
Well, they're just following national elected officials like Kerry and Murtha. Those two bastards should be hanged for treason. IMO

(I hope don't hear black helos over my house.)


Son of a bitch. There ARE black helos over my house. Perhaps they're a different color, it's dark out there. But hey, if they really are out to get me will you serve me by giving the world my last words? They're this: I love Christ. I love my wife. I love cheese.
19 posted on 10/26/2006 10:50:12 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: Cobra64

The individual was rambling on about Cheney's "extension" being used in the Pentagon and "Common" Rumsfield should take someone's place on the front lines in "Hell." The "citizen soldiers" should be able to speak out and all that nonsense. It was very incoherent. I think the poster has been in this country only "a berry, berry short distance."


20 posted on 10/26/2006 10:52:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Today we march! Tomorrow we vote!" They won't be "staying home" on November 7th.)
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To: llevrok

And you know who'll go to the brig for it? The soldiers.

We have to put these bastards down...

Gonzales or whoever... do your damn job.

If they had started charging these clowns with sedition from the beginning... this crap wouldn't be happening.

Now I see why a past president shut down the press.


21 posted on 10/26/2006 11:11:14 PM PDT by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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To: Jaysun
Hey, no pro-blem-o Jaysun.

The problem is since they're at your house, the SS has deployed a task force that just rolled up in front of my house. There are four guys in black suits, wearing sun glasses, and carrying Glocks!

I'm going to be caned by this guy:


22 posted on 10/26/2006 11:15:14 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: llevrok

This same crowd has been actively recruiting for years to get members of our intelligence and law enforcement community to betray the country and leak classified secrets to the NY Times. Why would this be a surprise? The only reason they don't literally do campaign commercials with Zawahiri is they know it would cost them more elections. Its not that they are morally opposed to what he wants - the destruction of America and its military - but they just prefer different tactics.


23 posted on 10/26/2006 11:15:27 PM PDT by bpjam (Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaida - The Religion of Peace)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The bastard should be sent back to the third world sh!t hole he came from. I really twists my shorts when foreigners criticize America. If they don't like it here, then why are they here?


24 posted on 10/26/2006 11:18:19 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: AliVeritas
We have to put these bastards down...

A few well placed injunctions and random (legal) searches. In short, tie them up in court and break their banks.

25 posted on 10/26/2006 11:20:34 PM PDT by llevrok (Spock / Kirk '08)
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To: Cobra64

That's how I feel about it. The post was very hard to understand. "Babelfish Gone Wild." It was apparent to me that he was trying to trash, Vice President Cheney, Sec. Rumsfeld and America in general. One of those dumbass posts where the bozo tries to make it appear that he "supports the troops."


26 posted on 10/26/2006 11:22:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Today we march! Tomorrow we vote!" They won't be "staying home" on November 7th.)
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To: SandRat
"I don't so much blame/harbor ill feelings to the troops that signed on to this..."

Why?

27 posted on 10/26/2006 11:24:35 PM PDT by Axhandle
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To: Cobra64

For Chrissake, don't answer the door.


28 posted on 10/26/2006 11:28:39 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: Jaysun
Too late. The drove an H1 through the front door. They're taking me to the nearest airport (with my laptop) to put me on Marine 1.

It seems I have an audience with Rove, Rummy, and the Prez! W has an important task for me to perform.

29 posted on 10/26/2006 11:41:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64
Too late. The drove an H1 through the front door. They're taking me to the nearest airport (with my laptop) to put me on Marine 1.

It seems I have an audience with Rove, Rummy, and the Prez! W has an important task for me to perform.


Dear God. He wants you to sing "Coward of the County", at least that's what they wanted me to do. It's likely that you don't know the words, friend. In which case I can only pray for you. I promised that I'd never reveal the consequences, but let me assure you, they're dire - you aren't dreaming and the man wearing the coconut tits and coin changer is real. God speed.
30 posted on 10/26/2006 11:55:09 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: Jaysun; Cobra64
Son of a bitch. There ARE black helos over my house. Perhaps they're a different color, it's dark out there. But hey, if they really are out to get me will you serve me by giving the world my last words? They're this: I love Christ. I love my wife. I love cheese.

Waste. No. Time. Get yourself lots of tinfoil, form it to fit your head, and don't take it off. Ever.
32 posted on 10/27/2006 2:35:01 AM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: llevrok
On another thread about this my hometown paper the Brattleeboro Reformer has ben running a series of stories since last Saturday on this ONE military guy who's anti-war, it just won't stop.

On Wenesday I believe these military anti- war prix went from 118 to 267 by Thursday. I think they are able to protest under the "Whistle Blower" act. It's sickening and they are being recruited!

reformer.com

33 posted on 10/27/2006 4:26:20 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: llevrok
The wording of the "appeal for redress" is simple and respectful: "As a patriotic American proud to serve the nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of all American military forces from Iraq. Staying in Iraq will not work and is not worth the price. It is time for U.S. troops to come home."

Today's tripe.

34 posted on 10/27/2006 4:34:40 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: llevrok

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 10/27/2006 5:42:52 AM PDT by MarkLevinFan
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To: SandRat
^)(@(*_)!!! *_)*(^&)%%$#^#$^^&$^#&()(^^)(^!!!!

I need to calm down and tell you what I am really thinking.


36 posted on 10/27/2006 6:06:11 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: llevrok

1 tenth of 1 percent active duty who have political left leanings and decided it was time for their 15 minutes of fame.... Shouldn't surprise anyone... They are also all probably getting out of the military shortly and are deciding on running as Democrat candidates... Ask them.


37 posted on 10/27/2006 6:20:01 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Terrorists cut our heads off and get medals. We put hoods on theirs and get sent to prison. hmmm)
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To: hsalaw

Give them Dishonorable Discharges to them all and di it publicly. Once they are out of uniform the will be free to protest all they want, but unlike sKerry they will be unable to hide the fact that they were given DDs in the event that some misguided Democrat president (like Carter) gives them amnesty or gives them after-the-fact honorable discharges. The stigma should follow them the rest of their lives.


38 posted on 10/27/2006 7:09:07 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
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To: llevrok

The left so loves Vietnam. I have a friend who will occasionally talk about how wonderful it was. It is sickening. We also have had thugs try to shut down harbor(s), they often shut down recruiting centers (one near me- I emailed the police about an action, and they showed up with dogs...) I do wish the President would deal with these people.


39 posted on 10/27/2006 7:19:24 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: llevrok; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; Xenalyte; Allegra; dasher; ...

213 whiney crybabies???

Okey Dokie!!! Thats all I need to know...

I'll be sure to give them the buckets with all the holes in them...

Need to spoof (FReep) that website though...


40 posted on 10/27/2006 7:27:46 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Cobra64
Good morning.
"...and carrying Glocks!"

You're safe. They'll just shoot themselves in the thigh.

Michael Frazier
41 posted on 10/27/2006 8:23:58 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: llevrok

Look closely and you'll find a budding young John Kerry. Look closer and you'll see Fat Ted's hand up his butt.


42 posted on 10/27/2006 8:30:50 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: Jaysun

Here's a little background on this organization and the spokesman. Can anyone say Fenton Communications?

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2006/10/appeal-for-redress-and-jonathan-huttos.html


43 posted on 10/27/2006 8:33:22 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (All aboard the Chickenhawk Express... www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: brazzaville
I'm a Sig fan myself. I love my P226 9 mm in stainless. It weighs in at 42 ozs. so I can handle the recoil better than the plastic guns.

Some folks call it "ugly" but I like its simplicity and reliability.

44 posted on 10/27/2006 8:34:03 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: llevrok

UCMJ


45 posted on 10/27/2006 8:46:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Cobra64
Good morning.
"Some folks call it "ugly" but I like its simplicity and reliability."

That is probably my next pistol. How could anyone call it ugly?

Michael Frazier
46 posted on 10/27/2006 8:51:48 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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125 'active duty' soldiers have so far signed up- that is less than .027% of the entire U.S military- That's pathetically low- & it also means that a vast majority don't hold their view. Brilliant strategy- Me thinks the left is getting desperate.

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

47 posted on 10/27/2006 9:50:22 AM PDT by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: llevrok
I hope any person they coerce into helping them understands the possible legal pitfalls under the UCMJ. They (military personnel) would have to be VERY careful what they said.
48 posted on 10/27/2006 10:23:08 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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To: llevrok

There should be an expansion unit built at Leavenworth for these pieces of crap. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that these jackasses have been problem children in their units for their entire enlistments - each has probably got a counseling packet as thick as a phone book. And I wonder how many of these POS's has a) been to Iraq and b) actually fired their weapons for any reason other than a test fire in Iraq. 0.27% of the 0.27%, perhaps?


49 posted on 10/27/2006 10:35:49 AM PDT by Axhandle
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To: Axhandle
less than .02% of the military, 120 or so- ungrateful whelps who signed up with the military for free education and training but who didn't want to honor their oath to protect htis country. Freeloaders in other words- Ungrateful freeloaders at that- people who were asked to protect this country, but who don't feel it's their obligation and who became upset when asked to do so. The dems should be so proud that they found .02% of soldiers who aren't patriotic, and who just wanted somethign for nothing. These 'soldiers' (and I use the term very loosley) pretty much represent the dem ideals I guess-

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

50 posted on 10/27/2006 12:18:39 PM PDT by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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