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Saddam Accepted the American Ultimatum Before the US Invasion
Yahoo ^ | 10/30/06

Posted on 10/30/2006 4:10:24 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

Saddam Accepted the American Ultimatum Before the US Invasion, According to Rights and Freedom International

Monday October 30, 4:35 pm ET

TORONTO, Oct. 30 /PRNewswire/ -- A former political adviser to Saddam Hussein's son said today that Saddam was willing to yield to all American demands before the U.S. invasion of Iraq -- but that the Bush administration refused his offers.

The disclosure was made by Hossam Shaltout, a Canadian aerospace engineer, former American pilot, and founder of the peace organization Rights and Freedom International (http://www.rightsandfreedom.com), who said that war could have been averted, but Bush aides blocked his efforts to announce Saddam's decision.

"Saddam was willing to yield to all American demands, announced and unannounced, to reach peaceful resolution," said Shaltout, "but the Bush administration, including Elizabeth Cheney, undersecretary of State, David Welch, the U.S. ambassador in Egypt, and Gene Cretz, his political attache, did not respond to his offers."

Shaltout said he was planning to fly from Amman to Baghdad to announce Saddam's decision, but the Royal Jordanian Airlines officials claimed that the US ordered the flight to leave five hours earlier causing him to miss the flight, preventing him from announcing on CNN that Saddam would bow to the Bush ultimatum. Shaltout said he traveled by road to Baghdad, delaying him almost one day, but raced to get the communique approved from Saddam to broadcast over international TV stations broadcasting from Baghdad.

Couple of hours before the expiration of the Bush ultimatum, Saddam ordered Colonel Amer, his strongman, to facilitate Shaltout's broadcast of the communique. Colonel Amer ordered Allaa Mecky, the head of the Iraqi Channel 2 television, to accompany Shaltout and help him broadcast the communique."

It was very late at night and CNN in Baghdad was closed. So they went to al-Jazeera, and Shaltout told al-Jazeera Washington correspondent Hafez Almirazy on the air that he had the Iraqi government's official reply to the Bush ultimatum. Moments after Mirazy asked him for a brief, the plug was pulled on the transmission. Shaltout has a copy of that interrupted broadcast.

Shaltout said that when the Americans arrived in Baghdad, he offered his assistance to U.S. military officials. Instead he was arrested by Marines who went to his hotel suite taking his documents. Shaltout has the videotape of his arrest, and several supporting documents.


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Saddam Accepted the American Ultimatum Before the US Invasion, According to Rights and Freedom International

1 posted on 10/30/2006 4:10:25 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Gee, is this guy hawking a book or just another agenda driven dude?
Am sure Saddam was believable and all!


2 posted on 10/30/2006 4:12:15 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Mr. Brightside
"A former political adviser to Saddam Hussein's son said today that Saddam was willing to yield to all American demands before the U.S. invasion of Iraq -- but that the Bush administration refused his offers."

If you accept American demands, then you have no offers.

We hear this story around the anniversary time of nuc'ing Japan on how they gave up even before we bombed.

It is joke journalism.
3 posted on 10/30/2006 4:12:56 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Muslims lie.


4 posted on 10/30/2006 4:12:56 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Amazing that this is coming out NOW! What timing - where has this man been - in Hillary's cellar 'till now? I smell a large, very large RAT!


5 posted on 10/30/2006 4:14:11 PM PST by fishergirl (Choose your vices carefully, then be loyal to them.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Interesting that the guy comes up with this story one week before the election.

Makes you go "Hmmmm."


6 posted on 10/30/2006 4:15:27 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Saddam accepted before the invasion but after the deadline--one does not halt a moving invasion just because the tyrant lies once again at the last second.


7 posted on 10/30/2006 4:15:41 PM PST by Cruising Speed
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To: Mr. Brightside

B.S.


8 posted on 10/30/2006 4:18:11 PM PST by gedeon3
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To: Mr. Brightside

Gee, an October surprise. Who would have thought?


9 posted on 10/30/2006 4:18:19 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Mr. Brightside

BS. If this were true, Saddam could have gone on Iraqi TV and made that announcement instead of sending some other person to catch a flight to make the announcement on a foreign news show. It's laughable on the face of it.


10 posted on 10/30/2006 4:18:26 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Mr. Brightside

Didn't this story come out a couple of years ago too? I'm not criticizing, it just seems familiar.


11 posted on 10/30/2006 4:18:53 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Wonder why he didn't go through Baghdad Bob? :o)

IMO, no way was Saddam giving in. He was even offered safe passage out of Iraq and refused. I think this isjust another pre-election hit and pre-Saddam sentencing, don't you?

12 posted on 10/30/2006 4:19:28 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Mr. Brightside

I remember this and yes it was right after the deadline. He was just trying to buy more time.

I also remember satellite pictures of military trucks crossing the border to Syria. The kind of trucks that carry missiles. Funny how you never see those pics or hear anything about that anymore either. -_-

Am I the only one with healthy long-term memory?


13 posted on 10/30/2006 4:19:37 PM PST by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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To: Jeff Gordon

We have a motive!!! He has a $350,000 lawsuit against the US Army. (You would think that Yahoo/AP reporters could go to Google and get the same information. It took me two minutes.)


http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1522516,00.html
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'Tortured' Canadian sues US
06/05/2004 07:13 - (SA)


Toronto - With the White House Wednesday under heavy fire over the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal, a Canadian businessman is claiming he endured daily torture by American soldiers after being seized in Baghdad.

Hossam Shaltout, 57, an Egyptian-born Canadian who lives in Los Angeles, is demanding damages of $350 000, in a complaint filed with the US Army.

He says his five-week ordeal which ended when he was deported to Egypt, left him suffering from depression, flashbacks, and an obsessive desire for death.

Shaltout says he was arrested by US soldiers outside his hotel in Baghdad during a riot in April 2003, and taken to the Bucca detention facility in Umm Qasr, southern Iraq.

He had travelled to Iraq on behalf of his peace group "Rights and Freedom International" in a bid to convince Iraqi leaders to step down to avoid a war with the United States.

After he was taken to Bucca in an armoured personnel carrier, Shaltout claims he was subjected to a daily diet of interrogation and torture.

Right-hand man

"Mr Shaltout was accused of being both a speechwriter for Saddam Hussein as well as his 'right-hand man,'" said Shaltout's Portland, Oregon-based lawyer Thomas Nelson in the complaint lodged with the US Army last week.

"When Mr Shaltout refused to confess, he was beaten in a variety of ways - he was hit with open hands, fists, shoes, and gun butts.

"The most alarming form of torture was when the interrogators put gun muzzles at his head or body, which put Mr. Shaltout in great fear of imminent death."

Shaltout, who is in Saudi Arabia and could not be immediately contacted Wednesday claims that he was kneed in the groin and hit about the face while in leg irons and handcuffs after he launched a hunger strike.

He is claiming $350 000 in damages, claiming he now suffers depression, post traumatic stress disorder and other physical and mental ailments.

Shaltout is also claiming compensation for loss of property and the damage to his business while he was in detention.


14 posted on 10/30/2006 4:19:37 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Look at the source. Rights and Freedom International


15 posted on 10/30/2006 4:19:56 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: Mr. Brightside

AP/Yahoo are not motivated to find the truth.


16 posted on 10/30/2006 4:22:58 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Not what Bagdad Bob said. Someone is lying here..
17 posted on 10/30/2006 4:23:39 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: Mr. Brightside

It's not a news story. Look at it again. It is a press release from the group sponsoring this guy.


18 posted on 10/30/2006 4:23:51 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Mr. Brightside

I have to make an account just to call B.S.

I distinctly remember Saddam challeging Bush to a debate and scoffing and ignoring the warnings courtesy of BBC of all sources.

Also, courtesy of BBC, Saddam never thought we would invade. He was calling Bush's bluff so to speak.


19 posted on 10/30/2006 4:24:02 PM PST by First2Fight
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To: Mr. Brightside

AP/Yahoo reporters don't want people to know this and know few will will seek out the information on their own.


20 posted on 10/30/2006 4:24:05 PM PST by CardShark
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

And Saddam's sons are in no position to refute these stories.


21 posted on 10/30/2006 4:24:19 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: perez24
Didn't this story come out a couple of years ago too?

Most definitely. It didn't get a lot of traction for the simple reason that if you're going to do this sort of thing you do so loudly and publicly, not privately to the first foreigner to give you an ear. It isn't the sort of thing that Bush or anyone else could "block."

22 posted on 10/30/2006 4:24:29 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Mr. Brightside

Saddam could have avoided going to the MSM to get his important message through by calling on the phone, or sending a FAX or sending an email or sending a courier to the US Army front lines. He could have done almost anything and that would have been smarter than using Al Jazeera. He could even have flown--with his two sons--out of Iraq; he could have driven out of Iraq in a Jeep. Any of that.


23 posted on 10/30/2006 4:24:44 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Uncle Hal

May 5, 2004

U.S. Resident Claims Torture by Troops

Washington Post

By DeNeen L. Brown

Washington Post Foreign Service

Wednesday, May 5, 2004; Page A21

TORONTO, May 4 -- A U.S. resident has alleged in a legal claim that he was tortured by U.S. troops in Iraq in April 2003 while held as a prisoner at Camp Bucca, a U.S. detention center in Umm Qasr.


... Mr. Shaltout was then interrogated and tortured on a daily basis," says the pleading. "For example, he was required to wait under the fierce southern Iraqi sun for his turn at being interrogated, and when the interrogation began, he was falsely accused of having Iraqi documents in his possession, all with a view toward extracting a confession...

The Marines refused to allow him to return to his hotel room, where he said he had hidden more than $100,000 in cash, according to the complaint, which seeks at least $350,000 in compensation."


http://www.globalissues.net/news/article1355.htm

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>>>he was required to wait under the fierce southern Iraqi sun for his turn at being interrogated<<<

That's the best he can do? Made to wait in line in the sun?

Some people need to find out what real torture is.


24 posted on 10/30/2006 4:27:46 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
....did not respond to his offers

(yawn)

1. The UN resolutions were not negotiable.
2. Who would be stupid enough to believe Saddam would uphold his end of any deal even if they were stupid enough to accept a deal with Saddam in the first place?

25 posted on 10/30/2006 4:27:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Am sure Saddam was believable and all!

My first thought also.

26 posted on 10/30/2006 4:28:05 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Mr. Brightside
This is NOT journalism. It's a press release. That's what PR Newswire does.

PR Newswire.com.

I just noticed on their web site that this media whore bought another famous media whore, US Newswire.

27 posted on 10/30/2006 4:28:58 PM PST by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

IF saddam did this he waited just a wee bit too long.

Almondjoy better take heed , He might make the same mistake.


28 posted on 10/30/2006 4:29:01 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

By the way, thanks for noting the entire lie of a headline.


29 posted on 10/30/2006 4:29:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Mr. Brightside
He is claiming $350 000 in damages, bla... bla...

That's all?
He haven't heard about couple million low suit with hot coffee against McDonald's?
Dumb Bass!

30 posted on 10/30/2006 4:29:40 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: perez24

This story came out just after the initial invasion and has been a monnbat talking point since. They just want to rehash to instill doubt in the voters for this election. Just anothe r DNC/MSM tactic.


31 posted on 10/30/2006 4:30:09 PM PST by Hayzo
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To: Mr. Brightside
Very old story regurgitated.......
32 posted on 10/30/2006 4:31:34 PM PST by Cold Heat (Turnout is critical! I have voted! How about you?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

IIRC, Bush's final ultimatum was that Saddam and his sons LEAVE Iraq, he didn't need Bush's approval, he just needed to leave. We killed his sons IN IRAQ. We captured him IN IRAQ. He didn't accept the ultimatum, end of discussion.


33 posted on 10/30/2006 4:32:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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We surrendered to the American demands before this started..we don't understand why the Americans are here

34 posted on 10/30/2006 4:34:05 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (At 53, I'm already thinkin about goin home before I get to where I'm goin...:-))
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To: Mr. Brightside

Is Saddam a closet Democrat or what? So he is rewriting history to claim that he accepted the American utlimatum before the invasion. What kind of track record does he or any other dictator have in keeping their word? Did he have good intentions (a Democrat characteristic), or was he biding his time or trying to? After the fact many scenarios seem to come out of the woodwork.


35 posted on 10/30/2006 4:35:28 PM PST by olezip
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To: Mr. Brightside

This has to be a Karl Rove trick ...

This Egyption born Canadian American pilot peacenick went to Elizabeth Cheney and she turned him away ?


36 posted on 10/30/2006 4:36:06 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

37 posted on 10/30/2006 4:36:59 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Mr. Brightside
A former political adviser to Saddam Hussein's son said today that Saddam was willing to yield to all American demands before the U.S. invasion of Iraq -- but that the Bush administration refused his offers.

Now there's an unimpeachable source.

Particularly on the eve of an election.

/ sarc

38 posted on 10/30/2006 4:37:15 PM PST by JCEccles
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The disclosure was made by Hossam Shaltout, a Canadian aerospace engineer, former American pilot, and founder of the peace organization Rights and Freedom International

Oh yeah, I would take this left wing moonbat's word over Bush's any day, riiiiiiiiight. If I were a sporting man I would wager that he doesn't know any more about what Saddam was prepared to accept than I do.

Odd coincidence how this Canadian "peace" activist just happened to choose the week before our congressional elections to go public with his 3 year old Iraqi "news" isn't it?

39 posted on 10/30/2006 4:37:35 PM PST by epow ("A strong man ARMED keepeth his palace, and his goods are in peace",,,Jesus Christ, ca 30 AD)
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To: upchuck

It's hard to tell the difference from a leftist press release and an aritcle written by the Associate Press.


40 posted on 10/30/2006 4:37:45 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

it's easy..there isn't one..


41 posted on 10/30/2006 4:38:31 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (At 53, I'm already thinkin about goin home before I get to where I'm goin...:-))
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To: Mr. Brightside

I wonder how 'alarming' he would have found it to be fed into a plastic shredder feet first?

Just wonderin'


42 posted on 10/30/2006 4:39:20 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: edcoil
"It is joke journalism."

That's one way to describe it, I prefer to call it what it is, yellow journalism.

My how the dying LSM likes to pick and choose.

43 posted on 10/30/2006 4:40:14 PM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Mr. Brightside

please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please let this be a democrap tactic to try to win the election...

if this is all they have, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ......


44 posted on 10/30/2006 4:40:31 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Saddamn was TOLD TO LEAVE IRAQ...he would NOT...


45 posted on 10/30/2006 4:41:29 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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”He says his five-week ordeal which ended when he was deported to Egypt, left him suffering from depression, flashbacks, and an ”obsessive desire for death.”


Death in terms of murder or suicide? Either way sounds like he belongs in an asylum.

46 posted on 10/30/2006 4:41:51 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Uh yeah, before the US invasion the US had the power to pull the plug on Al Jaz right as the capitulation was being broadcast. Smell test, laugh test, high test? Sell it somewhere else, Buddy!


47 posted on 10/30/2006 4:43:27 PM PST by Socratic ( "Better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied" - J.S. Mill)
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To: Mr. Brightside
"CNN in Baghdad was closed. So they went to al-Jazeera"

CNN motto: "President Saddam liked us better than AlJazeera!"

48 posted on 10/30/2006 4:43:44 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Jeff Gordon

That is what I was thinking. Saddam lies. This guy is lying, Saddam could have called Bush personally. Someone should make it into a movie though should be good for a couple of laughs.


49 posted on 10/30/2006 4:43:54 PM PST by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

More horse sh*t.


50 posted on 10/30/2006 4:44:23 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Look for a Elephantastic party win ,so painful the dims charge us with abusing jackasses.)
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