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North Korea agrees to nuclear talks (6 PARTY TALKS! In you face Rats)
Yahoo ^ | 10/31/2006 | CHARLES HUTZLER/AP

Posted on 10/31/2006 6:20:28 AM PST by tobyhill

BEIJING - North Korea agreed Tuesday to rejoin six-nation nuclear disarmament talks in a surprise diplomatic breakthrough three weeks after the communist regime conducted its first known atomic test. A U.S. envoy said the talks could resume as early as November.

Chinese, U.S. and North Korean envoys to the negotiations held a day of unpublicized talks in Beijing during which North Korea agreed to return to the larger six-nation talks on its nuclear programs, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said.

"The three parties agreed to resume the six-party talks at the earliest convenient time," the Chinese statement said.

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1 posted on 10/31/2006 6:20:28 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

If true and if they hold to it, this is great news.


2 posted on 10/31/2006 6:24:17 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: tobyhill

So they agreed to show up to a meeting before year's end. so what? They've shown up before, they've backed out before. How can anyone with any sense of knowledge about the NKs think this agreement to join talks means jack-****?
They'll keep working on and perfecting their nukes no matter what we do.


3 posted on 10/31/2006 6:24:24 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: tobyhill

I'll believe it when I see it.


4 posted on 10/31/2006 6:24:41 AM PST by jdm
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To: tobyhill
IN YOUR F&*KING FACE JIMMY F&*KING CARTER!!!!
5 posted on 10/31/2006 6:27:41 AM PST by steel_resolve (Do you know what a bigot is? Someone winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: sageb1
If true and if they hold to it, this is great news.

It's great news even if they don't hold to it. It's a huge STFU moment for the D's in Congress (though of course, they'll never STFU, ever....)

6 posted on 10/31/2006 6:27:51 AM PST by r9etb
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To: theDentist

It appears the sanctions are working because NK can't get their missiles to Iran. It probably won't mean a thing but it proves the Rats wrong that NK will now only talk to us one on one.


7 posted on 10/31/2006 6:27:59 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: theDentist
They'll keep working on and perfecting their nukes no matter what we do.

Yeah, that will continue so long as the Chia Head retains power. I think what this says is that China took him to the woodshed and gave him the spanking he was asking for.

8 posted on 10/31/2006 6:29:47 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: theDentist

They need money. We are putting a painful financial squeeze on them.


9 posted on 10/31/2006 6:30:13 AM PST by zarf
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To: tobyhill

Don't hold your breath... they'll drop out of the talks until sanctions are lifted, and then they'll be lifted...



They've held this football 20 times before, and the State Dept falls for it each time...


10 posted on 10/31/2006 6:30:37 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: tobyhill

Oh but the MSM will spin this as non-productive because the one on one worked so friggin well when Clinton was in office.....sarc.


11 posted on 10/31/2006 6:31:43 AM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: tobyhill
Note well another story posted earlier that said China had cut off oil deliveries to NK. That is the real driver here and something the Bush administration understands. We have ZERO leverage directly over NK. China can subvert our every move by supplying NK with whatever or allowing transshipment. We needed China to drag NK to the table and it appears that's what was done. Sending Maddie Halfbright or Jimmah Carter over to schmooze with Little Kim while his people are dropping dead of starvation was lunacy.

And there was that striped-pants idiot who basically said "sure they cheat but you have to make another deal." It's all process to them and results beyond the scrap of paper mean nothing to them.

12 posted on 10/31/2006 6:34:01 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: theDentist
I won't hold my breath but somethings working to get the NK back to the table.
13 posted on 10/31/2006 6:38:09 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill
"Oh this rearrry good news, now I get back to working on golf game"
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14 posted on 10/31/2006 6:39:01 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: NonValueAdded

That's big if China threatened to cut off their oil supplies but if so it worked.


15 posted on 10/31/2006 6:39:30 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: sageb1
"If true and if they hold to it, this is great news."

Oh yeah. Keep us talking. They're happy to talk. It gives them more time to hone their weapons.

--Boris

16 posted on 10/31/2006 6:48:27 AM PST by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a leftist with a word processor.)
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To: tobyhill

I wonder how Dimmycraps will spin this.


17 posted on 10/31/2006 7:38:11 AM PST by TBP
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To: tobyhill; TigerLikesRooster
From yesterday's International Herald Tribune: China cut off exports of oil to North Korea

I have no idea as to the track record of that paper or the accuracy of the story. It does say the cut happened in Sept. That thread crosslinks to a similar story translated by TigerLikesRooster, here: China Cut Oil Shipment to N. Korea (and invites Chia Head for a talk)

So it isn't the immediate cause-and-effect that the posting sequence seems to indicate (as I erroneously implied), but rather the result over time of sanctions kept up.

I'm certain that without China's help, we didn't stand a puppy's chance in Pyongyang of bringing this about on our own. Unrelenting pressure by the regional powers is the key. Bush understands this, the democRATs don't have a freaking clue. The RATs will get us all killed.

18 posted on 10/31/2006 8:00:54 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Re #18

According to local news here, N. Korea said it would return to the talks if U.S. lifts financial sanctions. If this is true, there is not much new on this proposal.

19 posted on 10/31/2006 5:13:33 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Re #19

Correction:

if U.S. lifts financial sanctions --> , expecting that they would work out lifting of the sanction at the talks.

So they did not attach any precondition. However, N. Koreans may spend most of their time arguing about financial sanctions, not nukes.

20 posted on 10/31/2006 5:43:36 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My guess the Chia Head made another of his strategic "concessions" as a starting point (a trap) which was as you know no concession at all, the worldwide press and particularly dumbed down CNN and others who don't know DPRK proclaim it as a Bush victory to get hopes up high, then Kim's delegation storms away from the process late this week on some trumped up pretense, all because of US and ***imperialist aggressor BUSH's lack of sincerity*** and gangster-like war mongering attitude, and then on the weekend either engage in DPRK Naval NLL incursions, KPA border guard shooting incidents across the MDL, or pehaps even exploding one more nuke in Pyunggyeri to shock the world again, claiming "This Is All Due to Bush's" lack of sincerity and war mood....he'd then let the US Western leftist media--and they would only love to oblige--go to town on it for three days before US elections. KHI is the kind of person to do that to try to impact the US middterm elections. A lot at stake for him and holding out another 28 months for President Hilary and Madeline Albright is getting tough! He certainly wants a castrated Bush in the final two years of office and also wants a Dem House and Senate to urge US policy on to *engagement* and away from isolation.


21 posted on 11/01/2006 3:14:29 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
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That is certainly possible. China could throw a curve ball by agreeing with N. Koreans, that is, that U.S. is indeed insincere. China is certainly capable of such a mischief.

I hope U.S. has big stick ready, in case things go south. The means to intimidate Chinese and N. Koreans respectively. Not necessarily military but more like financial & human right offensive. It would also help if Abe says a few ominous words along with his underlings.

22 posted on 11/01/2006 3:21:25 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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