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FEMA trailers trashed by users - 1,200 of the temporary units have been so badly damaged....
Houston Chronicle ^ | 11/01/2006 | TERRI LANGFORD

Posted on 11/02/2006 9:20:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Note to Hurricane Rita survivors: Please don't beat up the FEMA trailers, use them as meth labs or cart them off to your deer lease during hunting season.

More than 1,200 of the one-bedroom travel trailers issued to people displaced by Rita have been torn up so badly that serious repairs have been necessary, according to a statement Tuesday from the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

"They're certainly not for long-term living, and we at FEMA better understand that better than anybody," said Don Jacks, an agency spokesman in Austin.

4,600 trailers issued

In Texas, more than 4,600 of the one-bedroom trailers were issued free of charge to those made homeless by the Category 3 hurricane when it hit Sabine Pass on Sept. 24, 2005.

Today, about 3,000 of the trailers — which cost federal taxpayers $20,000 each — remain in use in Texas. So far, about 1,200 have suffered so much vandalism they had to be sent to FEMA repair centers in Texas and Arkansas, Jacks said.

One trailer had more than 300 cigarette burns. Another was burned to the ground. Hundreds of others have torn cushions, broken doors, torn-up refrigerators and myriad problems.

Used as drug labs

Then there's the illegal use issue.

Some of the trailers issued to Hurricane Rita and Katrina evacuees have been used as drug labs. One Texas man trucked his to Louisiana and sold it. A few other tenants have hooked them up to vehicles and even taken their trailers to deer leases to have a place to stay while hunting.

"They are rare instances," Jacks said of the hunters. "You shake your head and wonder, 'What are they thinking?'"

Jacks said residents need to understand that vandalizing or removing the trailers could violate their written agreements with FEMA.

That said, only five Rita victims have been removed from trailers for violating those agreements, according to FEMA.


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I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!
1 posted on 11/02/2006 9:20:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
Gonna be lots of nice duck hunting trailers for years in East Texas, Louisiana, and Arkansas
2 posted on 11/02/2006 9:23:24 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Responsibility2nd

If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a FEMA trailer............


3 posted on 11/02/2006 9:24:05 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: Red Badger

ROTFL!


4 posted on 11/02/2006 9:28:13 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Responsibility2nd
They're certainly not for long-term living

I think they are supposed to last longer than a year, though. Animals don't trash trash their homes. Someone ought to round these folks up and put them all together in a mile deep concrete pit and study them.

5 posted on 11/02/2006 9:30:41 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Send them each a bill. If they don't pay it withhold their Federal tax refunds, take their wages, the IRS knows how to handle these things.


6 posted on 11/02/2006 9:31:38 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism

How about send them a bill and if they don't pay up have them work at hard labor on a chain gang... WHY THE HELL SHOULD TAYPAYERS PAY FOR THESE IRRESPONSIBLE PIGS?!


7 posted on 11/02/2006 9:33:50 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Realism
"take their wages"

Like not sending them their welfare check.

8 posted on 11/02/2006 9:36:06 AM PST by just me
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To: Realism

"withhold their Federal tax refunds, take their wages"

What wages?

What tax refunds? Gotta pay taxes to get a refund.

More apropos-withhold their assortment of government aid checks. Apparently that is why many of them refused to leave New Orleans-big government sugar daddy check day was on Tuesday.


9 posted on 11/02/2006 9:37:36 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Realism
Send them each a bill. If they don't pay it withhold their Federal tax refunds, take their wages, the IRS knows how to handle these things.

Are you dreaming....take their wages...what wages..... T

10 posted on 11/02/2006 9:37:52 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Jacks said residents need to understand that vandalizing or removing the trailers could violate their written agreements with FEMA.

Could violate their written agreements? Are there some written agreements that allow removal or vandalizing of FEMA trailers?

I'm sure the perps are really frightened by their potential violation of a written agreement with FEMA. OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!

11 posted on 11/02/2006 9:44:13 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Responsibility2nd
Here are a few pictures of the trailors:






12 posted on 11/02/2006 9:45:12 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Red Badger
If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a FEMA trailer............

LOLOL!!

13 posted on 11/02/2006 9:50:59 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PA Engineer
It might be futile, but I've thought more than a few times of locating an auction or clearing house that sells used FEMA trailers.

Naturally I'd buy one in good condition. I wonder what these used trailers wholesale for on the average?

You pics look - obviously - like the before (not after) photos.

14 posted on 11/02/2006 9:58:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Red Badger

Bada bing. Good one.


15 posted on 11/02/2006 10:01:05 AM PST by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Of course this is a tiny fraction of the number of FEMA trailers destroyed by FEMA itself, by dumping them on soft ground in the middle of nowhere and sitting idly by while they warped, leaked, and rotted into unuseability. It's little wonder that many of the Katrina refugees figured it was no big deal to trash their hand-out trailers.


16 posted on 11/02/2006 10:04:13 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Right Wing Assault

I would hope they last more than a year for $20,000 each. Your tax dollars at work.


17 posted on 11/02/2006 10:08:00 AM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: Responsibility2nd
One Texas man trucked his to Louisiana and sold it. A few other tenants have hooked them up to vehicles and even taken their trailers to deer leases to have a place to stay while hunting.

Thus proving they could make much better use of their trailers than FEMA did with most of its trailer inventory. Why is it a problem for taxpayers (which these individuals sound like, as opposed to perpetually drunk/high/unemployed elfare addicts) to tow a trailer to a deer lease and LIVE in it (you know, the intended use), or sell it for cash which was likely used towards paying for alternative living quarters or home repairs, while FEMA simply destroyed many thousands of trailers without even briefly putting them to anythong remotely resembling their intended use?

18 posted on 11/02/2006 10:09:39 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Responsibility2nd

"I'm stuned..."


19 posted on 11/02/2006 10:21:53 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: Red Badger
Nice one! I also like:

If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well on FR. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in DU.

20 posted on 11/02/2006 10:30:25 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
That said, only five Rita victims have been removed from trailers for violating those agreements, according to FEMA.

Kind of like our illegal immigration policies...

21 posted on 11/02/2006 10:32:53 AM PST by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Why is it a problem for taxpayers (which these individuals sound like, as opposed to perpetually drunk/high/unemployed elfare addicts) to tow a trailer to a deer lease and LIVE in it (you know, the intended use), or sell it for cash which was likely used towards paying for alternative living quarters or home repairs

You make a lot of allowances for people who trash, misuse, or even sell property paid for by the taxpayers (us)? Surely, if someone illegally sold government property, it must be so they can fix up their house. And since the government mishandled some of these trailers, these people getting the free trailers to live in shouldn't be bound by things such as a contract.

I didn't see your excuse for them trashing the trailers and using them as drug labs, but I'm sure it's someone else's fault. You give these people a lot of credit, even giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are taxpayers. I know what state you live in, the state of denial!
22 posted on 11/02/2006 10:36:15 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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To: Red Badger; Fiddlstix; <1/1,000,000th%; jokar; polymuser
"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a FEMA trailer............"

Great stuff! This could be the first in a long, long list of parodies starting with: "If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll be stuck ...."

Here's my shot at it (no where as good as yours, but gotta start somewhere)

"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll be stuck in a ditch with Cindy."

To "polymuser" -- I wrote the above before seeing your contribution. LOL. We're now up to three parodies.
23 posted on 11/02/2006 10:37:22 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

If you don't, well, you'll be stuck in a ditch with a B__CH!.....


24 posted on 11/02/2006 10:38:42 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: Red Badger

It's always better if it rhymes. LOL.


25 posted on 11/02/2006 10:40:29 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I just couldn't help it............


26 posted on 11/02/2006 10:42:18 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
"Animals don't trash trash their homes..."

Never had raccoons in your attic I see.

27 posted on 11/02/2006 10:42:38 AM PST by norton
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
"If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well. If you don't, well, you'll be stuck in a ditch with Cindy."

OMG! Stuck in a ditch with SheScam......NO......
A fate worse than death!
LOL

28 posted on 11/02/2006 10:46:17 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: FreedomOfExpression

The people using them as drug labs should be shot. But the people enterprising enough to make some sort of reasonable use of the trailers (including selling for cash) are 1) not likely to be the sort of deadbeats who've been sitting around collecting welfare all their adult lives, 2) already determined by FEMA to have lost their homes and to be entitled to government assistance as a result, and 3) way, way down the list of people I'm annoyed at for how my tax dollars have been used in connection with FEMA trailers.

The problem with government help has always been that government decides what sort of help is needed and spends taxpayer dollars on that, without any regard to whether the sort of help it has decided to hand out bears any relationship to what's needed. My assessment of the people who have towed the trailers to deer leases or sold them for cash is that they have probably made a more accurate determination than FEMA of what sort of help they need, and taken matters into their own hands -- quite likely after seeing media coverage of how FEMA has destroyed tens of thousands of its own brand-new, never-lived-in trailers.

Similarly, Jabbar Gibson did a good thing by stealing the school bus and driving a load of people out of New Orleans, while FEMA/Nagin/Blanco had their collective overpaid heads up their a$$e$ trying to figure out how to get stranded people out of New Orleans. Often the government's plans suck and are more expensive and less effective than illegal measures resorted to by the same people the government has told us it's using our tax dollars to help.


29 posted on 11/02/2006 11:05:49 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Red Badger
If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in a FEMA trailer............

My name is Matt Foley, and I am a Motivational Speaker! Now, let's get started by me giving you a little bit of a scenario of what my life is all about! First off, I am 35 years old.. I am divorced.. and I live in a van FEMA trailer down by the river!

30 posted on 11/02/2006 11:08:10 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Why does the U.S. government coddle the parasites of society?
31 posted on 11/02/2006 11:08:49 AM PST by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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To: polymuser
If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well on FR. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in DU

If you work hard and study hard, you'll do well on FR. If you don't, well, you'll get stuck in DU's DU.

32 posted on 11/02/2006 11:25:41 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To liberals: Dead enemies need no political or diplomatic solutions.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It really shouldn't surprise anyone. This is the same thing that has been happening for decades to Government housing for the poor. They move in, tear up the housing and then the Government has to close the units and remodel them. Then, the people move back in, and the process starts again. Endlessly, without fail and it consumes uncountable billions of taxpayer dollars.


33 posted on 11/02/2006 11:33:37 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: 4yearlurker
"Why does the U.S. government coddle the parasites of society? "

Votes

34 posted on 11/02/2006 11:49:41 AM PST by sinclair (For every action there is an equal and opposite government program)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The people using them as drug labs should be shot. But the people enterprising enough to make some sort of reasonable use of the trailers (including selling for cash) are 1) not likely to be the sort of deadbeats who've been sitting around collecting welfare all their adult lives (snip)

It seems more likely to me that those who sell the trailers want to use the money mainly to buy drugs, maybe cigarettes or liquor... but that may be the cynic in me.

I am with you on misuse, bad decisions, bureaucracy, and waste by the government, but I still don't think it justifies breaking the law in this case.

Stealing a bus to help people escape a disaster is on a whole different level in my book. The bus wasn't taken with the purpose of keeping it or selling it for personal gain, but it was used to help others in a highly unusual set of circumstances.
35 posted on 11/02/2006 11:54:12 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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To: norton
Never had raccoons in your attic I see.

Actually they remodel your home into their version. Once they get it the way they want it, they are happy but your aren't.

Or, maybe these people in Texas are racoons!!

36 posted on 11/02/2006 11:57:21 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I took mine 4 wheelin!

37 posted on 11/02/2006 12:03:05 PM PST by evets (Beer and wine.)
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To: sinclair
There is some truth to that. However,a lot of their voter base is so stupid they don't even know how to register. I've seen idiots trying to register to vote at the Post office and the local library!
38 posted on 11/02/2006 12:03:50 PM PST by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I sure would like a free guv'mint trailer. I'd even drive down there and haul it away, free of charge.


39 posted on 11/02/2006 12:04:32 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: PA Engineer

That's nicer than most of the places I lived before I was 30.


40 posted on 11/02/2006 12:05:56 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Animals don't trash trash their homes.

Welfare losers do because the homes are free.
41 posted on 11/02/2006 12:07:05 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Realism

Forget it. They will bitch that the free trailer was cheap and not good enough for their sorry asses and will demand a new one and get it.


42 posted on 11/02/2006 12:09:24 PM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: PA Engineer

Looks like cheap, cheap construction. Tears up easily. Folks don't generally live in trailers like these for more than a few days/weeks at a time, but these folks were LIVING in them for months and months. I can believe that they have been damaged quite a bit.

Lean against one of those walls, and you'll put a hole through it. Open a cabinet door too aggressively, and the thing breaks off.

There's a difference between good, durable construction and cheap construction. The cheap stuff is cheap for a reason.


43 posted on 11/02/2006 12:20:05 PM PST by petitfour
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Your complaint is with bureaucracy in general and its inevitable inefficiencies whether public or private. If you are really a government shrinker you should be complaining about the very existence of FEMA, period.


44 posted on 11/02/2006 12:29:55 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
No kidding. The last rent house we lived in was really run down...the kitchen floor sagged! But when we moved in, we made minor repairs, spiffed up the paint and cleaned it really really well. It wasn't too bad. Then, the owner actually sold it. When he came to do a walk through with us (to get our deposit back), he literally walked through the house shaking his head. He was astounded at how nice we'd left it. It was spotlessly clean. He told me he'd never had a tenant that had ever left it in even ok condition...it was always trashed when he rented it.
45 posted on 11/02/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

According to the article, only one trailer is known to have been sold, and that one was trucked to Louisiana for sale. In other words, it was put to its intended purpose, to provide housing in an area where much of the original housing stock had been rendered uninhabitable by the hurricane. Probably for some family that had been languishing on a waiting list for months for a FEMA trailer that FEMA had said they were entitled to but couldn't seem to get delivered (there are STILL people waiting on those lists). Whatever the seller did with the money, it can't be worse than what the FEMA f--k-ups are doing with many millions more of our money. I simply can't get worked up about it.

Attempts to make rational use of FEMA resources keep running into interference from FEMA, and that I CAN get worked up about. A few months back, a news report interviewed the mayor of some little Louisiana town, who was trying to get FEMA to move a trailer from the property of a family who didn't need theirs any more to the nearby property of a family which desperately needed it and been getting empty promises from FEMA for months about how they were going to get a trailer. FEMA dweeb told the mayor they'd get to it when they could; mayor told FEMA dweeb he'd just arrange to have it moved himself becuase they'd been waiting for months already; FEMA dweeb told the mayor he'd better not do that because he'd be committing a crime and FEMA would go after him for it (mayor moved it anyway, figuring FEMA would have as much trouble getting around to charging him with a crime as it had getting trailers moved to where they're needed, and a good deal more trouble getting any court to convict him).


46 posted on 11/02/2006 12:44:42 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Responsibility2nd

Animals


47 posted on 11/02/2006 12:45:40 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Trailer Trash Trash Trailers

that is all...
48 posted on 11/02/2006 12:46:39 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I wish they'd sell me one and let me fix it up and put it on a bit of land...I wouldn't even mind if it was (somewhat) trashed.


49 posted on 11/02/2006 12:47:29 PM PST by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: PA Engineer

Where's the widescreen plasma? Now wonder they tossed these trailers.


50 posted on 11/02/2006 12:48:08 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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