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(Senator Ted) Kennedy Offered to Help Soviets Thwart U.S. Policies, KGB Papers Show
Cybercast News Service ^ | November 2, 2006 | Kevin Mooney

Posted on 11/02/2006 9:51:17 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

While Soviet troops occupied Afghanistan in 1980, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) worked in close concert with high level Kremlin officials to alter the direction of U.S. policy, according to documents made available through a KGB defector.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia; US: Massachusetts
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1 posted on 11/02/2006 9:51:17 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?


2 posted on 11/02/2006 9:51:58 AM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party's '06 platform: Offering a "Suicide Pact With America.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

does this get the standard 24 hour shake down?


3 posted on 11/02/2006 9:52:16 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Clintonfatigued
What?

OMG!

4 posted on 11/02/2006 9:52:42 AM PST by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; ExTexasRedhead; Salem; SJackson; Alberta's Child; SandRat; river rat; MikefromOhio; ..

And I thought I was paranoid when I wondered if the Democrats' policies were aiding the cause of America's enemies.


5 posted on 11/02/2006 9:53:31 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: My2Cents
Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?

Because the actions were committed by a Kennedy, and a Kennedy cannot commit a crime, by definition.

6 posted on 11/02/2006 9:53:56 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: My2Cents

Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?

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Democrats get a pass on everything.


7 posted on 11/02/2006 9:54:14 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: b4its2late; MassachusettsGOP; Gay State Conservative; roses of sharon; Salvation; Soul Seeker; ...

I reacted the same way when I saw this article.


8 posted on 11/02/2006 9:54:40 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The history of the Four Kennedy Brothers, three of whom died in the service of the United States of America and one who was executed for treason..... blah, blah, blah ..... ~ something like a future history documentary ought to start.


9 posted on 11/02/2006 9:54:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: My2Cents
Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?

Because it's a Demorat, and we can't question his patriotism?

(Actually, I don't question his patriotism - there's none to question.)

10 posted on 11/02/2006 9:54:59 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: dead
Kennedy of course is denying it saying he loved Regan and just wanted to help him, that's why he was working closely with the KGB, because he 'wanted to help him' Yes, he wanted to help him- The broken excuse record has begun to play.

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

11 posted on 11/02/2006 9:55:27 AM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: sure_fine
Another story buried by the MSM.
12 posted on 11/02/2006 9:55:49 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: muawiyah
something like a future history documentary ought to start.

Absolutely.

13 posted on 11/02/2006 9:56:27 AM PST by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

That was an amazing article. A real eye opener.


14 posted on 11/02/2006 9:56:38 AM PST by Hexenhammer
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To: Clintonfatigued
I'll wait till Rush gets on it. this could be put out by howard dean.
15 posted on 11/02/2006 9:56:40 AM PST by camas
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To: Parley Baer

You can count on it.


16 posted on 11/02/2006 9:56:53 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I've heard this story before. Will someone please produce the KGB document. That would be all that is needed to proceed with treason charges.


17 posted on 11/02/2006 9:56:54 AM PST by CougarGA7 (The Democrat Party is just a "botched joke".)
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To: Clintonfatigued
"Kennedy's activities were in "clear violation of the U.S. Constitution and at the expense of presidential authority."

Nothing new here. Anytime any world power wants to interfere with US internal politics and US foreign policy, all they have to do is contact an American Liberal.
18 posted on 11/02/2006 9:57:09 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: CottShop; Common Tator; ElkGroveDan; new yorker 77; neverdem; HitmanLV; sionnsar; The Old Sarge; ...

I hope you forwarded this article to that site.


19 posted on 11/02/2006 9:57:20 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Just another isolated incident....

For Ted Kennedy, this is resume enhancement.

What the heck, he is PROUD of his involvement.

This is SO much more innocuous than driving off a bridge in Chappaquiddick.


20 posted on 11/02/2006 9:57:40 AM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Kennedy's Venona cables.


21 posted on 11/02/2006 9:58:22 AM PST by sappy
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To: camas

Rush has to be notified about this to get on it. Perhaps you can give his show a call.

(I'm on my lunch break and don't have time)


22 posted on 11/02/2006 9:58:54 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The Great One Mark Levin broke this story last week.


23 posted on 11/02/2006 9:59:54 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is news???

You mean we didn't know this already????

All this means is that there's a piece of paper that claims to prove that which we already knew.


24 posted on 11/02/2006 10:01:06 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Tired of Taxes; DaveLoneRanger; Republicanprofessor; Txsleuth; Texasforever; ...

Everybody who has a ping list, regardless of its topic, should ping this article.


25 posted on 11/02/2006 10:01:14 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: thatcher
Kennedy Offered to Help Soviets Thwart U.S. Policies, KGB Papers Show
By Kevin Mooney
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
November 02, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - While Soviet troops occupied Afghanistan in 1980, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) worked in close concert with high level Kremlin officials to alter the direction of U.S. policy, according to documents made available through a KGB defector.

Details concerning Kennedy's correspondence with KGB agents are included in the writings of the late Vasiliy Mitrokhin who defected to Britain in 1992. The Mitrokhin papers highlight a meeting that took place at the behest of Kennedy between former Sen. John Tunney (D-Calif.) and KGB agents in Moscow on March 5, 1980.

The exchange of information between Tunney and the KGB is included as part of a report Mitrokhin filed with the Cold War International History Project of the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington D.C. The former KGB man continued to work with British intelligence until the time of his death.

Noted Cold War author and researcher Herbert Romerstein told Cybercast News Service Mitrokhin was a "highly credible source" with vast knowledge of the now-closed KGB archives.

Prior to his defection, Mitrokhin made meticulous copies of KGB documents by hand, explained Romerstein, who headed the U.S. government's Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation and Active Measures during the 1980s.

The KGB defector smuggled out six cases of notes that formed the basis of his reporting.

The KGB files Mitrokhin retrieved indicate that Kennedy fixed the blame for heightened international tensions on the Carter White House, not on the Kremlin. Kennedy at the time was challenging incumbent Carter for the Democratic nomination for president.

Tunney told his KGB counterparts that Kennedy was impressed by the foreign policy statements made by then General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev. Kennedy saw in Brezhnev a leader who was firmly committed to the policy of "détente," the report said.

But, in Kennedy's estimation, the Carter administration had assumed an overly belligerent posture toward the Soviet Union after the invasion of Afghanistan, Mitrokhin wrote.

In Kennedy's view, "the atmosphere of tension and hostility towards the whole Soviet people was being fuelled by Carter" as well as by some key advisors, the Pentagon and the U.S. military industrial complex, the Mitrokhin report states.

Throughout the meeting Tunney remained focused on the separation between Kennedy's proposals and the official stance of the Carter White House. While official U.S. policy called for the withdrawal of Soviet forces from Afghanistan, Kennedy avoided "touching the question of the legality of the presence of Soviet troops," Mitrokhin reported.

Instead, Kennedy relayed through his envoy, Tunney, his support for a withdrawal of Soviet forces that would be coupled with policy directives that "guaranteed non-interference" by competing foreign powers in the internal affairs of Afghanistan.

Since there was intense disagreement between Kennedy and the administration on policy toward the Soviets, Tunney told the KGB that the Massachusetts senator had concluded "it was his duty to take action himself, which could force the Carter administration to act to de-escalate the crisis," Mitrokhin wrote.

In 1980 Kennedy lost to Carter in the Democratic primary, and the incumbent in turn lost to Ronald Reagan in the general election.

As was previously reported by the Cybercast News Service Kennedy also subsequently made overtures to Soviet officials aimed at thwarting Reagan's military buildup in the 1980s.

Kennedy had offered to help the Soviets organize a public relations campaign in the U.S. that would dilute support for Reagan's policies. Once again, it was Tunney who traveled to Moscow on Kennedy's behalf to relay the senator's proposals.

The particulars of Kennedy's proposals are discussed in a letter dated May 14, 1983, that was sent from the head of the KGB to Yuri Andropov, who was then general secretary. Romerstein acquired a copy of the letter from a contact in Moscow who had access to the Kremlin archives.

"The letter speaks to the degree of opposition and the lack of understanding liberals like Kennedy had toward Reagan's policies," said Lee Edwards, a distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

"Reagan knew we had to build up our armed forces before we could apply pressure to the Soviets." The notion of fighting to win the Cold War was an alien concept to liberals like Kennedy, Edwards added, because they had grown accustomed to the policies of containment.

A copy of the letter is reproduced in a new book entitled "The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism." The author, Paul Kengor is a professor of political science at Grove City College.

The pattern of behavior should concern members of both political parties, Kengor said, because it shows Kennedy was willing to work against American foreign policy, regardless of who occupied the White House.

In his book, Kengor points out that Tunney acknowledged making 15 separate trips to the Soviet Union where he acted as an intermediary not only for Kennedy but for other U.S. senators.

'Clear violation'

Charles Dunn, dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University, told Cybercast News Service Kennedy's activities were in "clear violation of the U.S. Constitution and at the expense of presidential authority."

The secret overtures to the KGB during the Reagan years were particularly insidious, Dunn said, because Tunney and Kennedy were working to undermine what ultimately proved to be a very successful policy that brought an end to the Cold War.

"If another country gets the idea that it can deal outside of official channels then that undermines presidential leadership," he said.

For his part, Romerstein said that Kennedy, and other senators, may have violated the Logan Act, which has been on the books since 1799, but is rarely enforced. The law prohibits American citizens from engaging in private diplomacy with a foreign government with the intention of influencing public policy.

At the same time, however, Romerstein cautions against viewing Kennedy as an agent for the Soviets. Instead, he said, it is appropriate to label him a "collaborationist" who sought out Soviet contacts to advance his own interests, not theirs.

When Kennedy spoke highly of Soviet leaders like Brezhnev and Andropov, he may have been "pretending," in an attempt to curry favor, Romerstein said.

"He [Kennedy] was no more loyal to the Soviets than he was to the United States.," Romerstein said.

Kennedy's office was contacted but declined to comment on the communication the senator had with the KGB, as reported in the Mitrokhin papers.

 

26 posted on 11/02/2006 10:01:58 AM PST by antonia (Build the Wall Now!)
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To: My2Cents
Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?

If somone can expalin it, share it with me. I don't understand either...

27 posted on 11/02/2006 10:02:28 AM PST by GOPJ (MSM's so busy kissing democrat butt that they miss big stories. Come up for air guys.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Why you big fat traitorous bastard

28 posted on 11/02/2006 10:03:22 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Long Island Pete

It came out last week as prelude to the book, out this week!


29 posted on 11/02/2006 10:03:30 AM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: Clintonfatigued

What ar4e ping lists and what do they do? Just curious? (I'm technologically challenged)


30 posted on 11/02/2006 10:03:53 AM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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"Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?"

Good question.


31 posted on 11/02/2006 10:04:22 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: CottShop

They're lists of people interested in a particular topic. A certain poster keeps the name, and sends articles related to that topic.


32 posted on 11/02/2006 10:05:07 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Fat Red Ted...


33 posted on 11/02/2006 10:05:21 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Parley Baer

I wouldn't care if the story was ever covered by MSM, but cannot understand why it has not been raised within the Senate itself.


34 posted on 11/02/2006 10:06:55 AM PST by backtothestreets
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; ...

PING!

The Drunk Swimmah subverts foreign policy...


35 posted on 11/02/2006 10:06:58 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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36 posted on 11/02/2006 10:07:58 AM PST by EX52D (Life is a stage, and we are merely players...)
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To: backtothestreets

I submitted to Drudge, but the more the merrier


37 posted on 11/02/2006 10:08:02 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Clintonfatigued

There once was a Senator from Mass
Who was looking to hide some of his past
We lucked out and found it
Hoped the MSM would rebound it
Instead they just took a pass


38 posted on 11/02/2006 10:09:13 AM PST by badpacifist (I want you, I need you. But there ain't no way I'm ever gonna love you. So don't be sad.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Already done...


39 posted on 11/02/2006 10:10:08 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: beaelysium
Ted Kennedy: Iraq war's Jane Fonda (Great Read!)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 2/12/05 | Peter Parisi

Posted on 02/12/2005 7:40:07 PM PST by wagglebee

The votes have been cast – if not yet fully counted – and Sen. Edward M. Kennedy owes the brave people of Iraq a profound apology. Some 8 million Iraqis on Jan. 30 defied terrorists' threats of violence and death to cast their ballots for a more hopeful future than Mr. Kennedy was willing to grant them. In so doing, Iraqis, who hadn't voted in free elections in a half-century, gave the lie to the Massachusetts Democrat's nakedly partisan rant three days before the balloting that the war that made the voting possible was "a colossal failure, a continuing quagmire." In fact, although about three dozen people – minus the eight suicide bombers – died in election-related violence, the terrorists' vow to wreak maximum havoc nationwide to minimize the turnout and thereby render the vote illegitimate was what was the true "colossal failure."

Indeed, Iraqi voters gave the collective finger, a purple dye-stained finger, to the thugs and assassins – and to Mr. Kennedy, whose diatribe at Johns Hopkins' School of Advanced International Studies Jan. 27 gave demagoguery a bad name. For Mr. Kennedy to characterize the Iraq war as "Bush's Vietnam" in advance of the balloting served only to give propaganda aid and comfort to terror mastermind Abu Musab Zarqawi and his henchmen. But beyond that, it grossly misrepresents the Vietnam War – specifically, the U.S. conduct of the war and the lessons thereof.  more

 


40 posted on 11/02/2006 10:10:23 AM PST by antonia (Build the Wall Now!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is unbelievable!

Where is the MSM?? Why, they are out there still circling the wagons for Kerry and doing everything in their power to torpedo Republicans' election chances. Imagine that.

I despise them.


41 posted on 11/02/2006 10:10:46 AM PST by Shelayne (...And though my heart is torn, I will praise You in this storm... ~~Casting Crowns)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Should be noised about in all spheres in Mass...
The STINK should waft in the MsM and MsP Massachusetts breeze..

Sure their stuck on stupid but they CAN smell...

42 posted on 11/02/2006 10:11:09 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: badpacifist

editing


"There once was a Senator'S from Mass
Who was looking to hide some of his past
We lucked out and found it
Hoped the MSM would rebound it
Instead they just took a pass"


43 posted on 11/02/2006 10:11:32 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: My2Cents

"Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?"

I guess for the same reason Kerry meeting with the communists in Paris in an effort to undermine our war effort wasn't. Isn't admitting to doing so, while still a uniformed Officer, considered treason? Heck Kennedy should be sharing a jail cell with Scot Camil....oh, &*((*&, lol, don't get me started....this deja vu can eatcha alive. Should have taken care of all of these people long ago, instead they're Senators getting paid for being traitors!


44 posted on 11/02/2006 10:12:04 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: My2Cents
At the same time, however, Romerstein cautions against viewing Kennedy as an agent for the Soviets. Instead, he said, it is appropriate to label him a "collaborationist" who sought out Soviet contacts to advance his own interests, not theirs.

Which is exactly the problem, isn't it Mr. Romerstein?

Sen. Kennedy was ready, willing and able to subordinate the interests of the United States to his own. No matter how wrong-headed Peanut Man was, that was no excuse for "collaborating" with the enemy of the USA.

I'll grant that Sen. Kennedy's intentions were not to betray his country...probably. But must we invent a new category of crime specifically for these kinds of liberal actions?:

Negligent Treason

45 posted on 11/02/2006 10:12:25 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: CougarGA7

Did you read this article? It wasn't only Kennedy. There were other senators too, and the "envoy" was himself a senator. The original Kennedy-Soviet relationship was against the Carter WH. At the time, Carter and Kennedy were battling for the Dem nomination. This is pretty explosive stuff. I'd like to know the identity of the other senators.


46 posted on 11/02/2006 10:12:35 AM PST by twigs
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To: Clintonfatigued

Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.


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47 posted on 11/02/2006 10:14:55 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Excuse me but - why would anyone be surprised by this?


48 posted on 11/02/2006 10:14:57 AM PST by tedric (France is a wonderful country except that it's filled with French people)
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To: My2Cents

"Now, someone explain to me why this isn't treason?"

We've got members of congress who are members of thes communist party in the U,S. How's he going to be charged with treason?


49 posted on 11/02/2006 10:15:35 AM PST by dljordan
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To: antonia

Doesn't the title of "Iraq War's Jane Fonda" actually belong to Paul Craig Roberts?


50 posted on 11/02/2006 10:15:37 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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