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JVERITAS Responds to the 11/3 NYT Article Regarding Iraq Nuclear Program.
November 3rd 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 11/02/2006 8:48:45 PM PST by jveritas

Edited on 11/02/2006 11:06:31 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The New York Times article to be published on November 3rd 2006 is about the US putting some captured Iraqi documents on the Foreign Military Intelligence Office (FMSO) website that talks about what the NYT and the IAEA call sensitive information from Iraq 1996 "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration FFCD presented to the UN and IAEA in 1996 and that talks about Iraq nuclear clandestine program. The IAEA and the New York Times claim that Iran may be using some of the technology in this FFCD which is a laughable idea as shown below.

That is from the IAEA website regardinf their report on Iraq FFCD presented to them by the Iraqis in 1996: “ 3. On 7 September 1996 in Baghdad Iraq delivered what it considered to be the definitive version of the "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration" (FFCD-F) of the Iraqi clandestine nuclear programme. The IAEA with the assistance of technical experts from Member States undertook a comprehensive review of the document.” Link: http://www.iaea.org/About/Policy/GC/GC41/Documents/gc41-20.html

So the FFCD was discussed with member states experts of the IAEA. There are 142 members in the IAEA including Iran. I am not saying that the IAEA discussed the Iraqi FFCD with Iranians but the FFCD was not such a secret document and the Iranians would have been able to access it in one way or another if it really provide them with any useful information.

What is important in this whole issue is that the New York Times has ridiculed these documents all along and never payed attention to them including the very important documents that show Saddam regime never stopped its programs related to WMD including nuclear programs. These documents were translated and posted here on FR.

On the subject of nuclear program, I translated and posted a document last month dated January 2001 that shows with a shadow of doubt that Saddam was personally involved with his nuclear scientist to re-build the nuclear program. In this document it states that Saddam personally approved his Iraqi Atomic Energy Agency to re-use nuclear equipments that include something called “Degussa Furnaces” that were used in the previous and prohibited Iraq nuclear program. These furnaces can be used to melt uranium and other nuclear related activities. The Degussa Vacuum furnaces were supplied to Iraq in the 1980’s by a German firm (Degussa AG based in Frankfurt Germany) and these furnaces later on became the subject of investigations of the German firm in the early 1990’s where the company claimed that they did not know that Iraq would have used them in its nuclear program.

The New York Times had an article in 1998 titled “An Iraqi Defector Warns of Iraq's Nuclear Weapons Research” where the Degussa furnaces were mentioned as part of “previous” Iraq nuclear program and the controversy surrounding the sale of these furnaces and the investigations later on(link: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders/214/other/news/iraqi_defector.html ). The irony is that this is not only a New York Times article but also it was written by JUDITH MILLER and JAMES RISEN once of the worst accusers (liars) that the Bush administration lied about Iraq WMD. Where are you Scott Shane????

Link to the translated document on FR: 2001 Iraqi Document: Saddam Approved the Re-Use of Nuclear Equipment http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725141/posts

Moreover, there are documents dated 1999-2001 that talk about Saddam regime projects to re-build some of the nuclear program facilities like RWTS (Radioactive Waste Treatment Station) and Radio-Chemistry laboratories which were part of Iraq previous clandestine nuclear program. Link to the translated document on FR: Iraqi Documents: Projects to Rebuild Saddam Nuclear Facilities http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718125/posts .

Also this one

Iraqi Documents Show Plans for Prohibited Nuclear Projects http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709390/posts


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To: Txsleuth
LOL KA'PING on that link!

Just wait, by the end of the day, yea, heads will be a rollin at the times.... This will be the talk of the weekend for sure, but NOT in the way that the NYT intended! Not even CLOSE!

ROFL
401 posted on 11/03/2006 8:05:43 AM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Freee-dame

Ping!


402 posted on 11/03/2006 8:06:16 AM PST by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: maine-iac7
"don't forget to add e.d. hills new email address to your list now that she has her own show. She is afraid of no one... "

She may be afraid of no one, but she strickly a democrat shill.

She and Catherine Herridge just "covered" the New York times story. Following the New York Times plot line to the period.

Nothing follows.

403 posted on 11/03/2006 8:06:51 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter (Sign at World Series in St. Louis, October 27, 2006 "The Experts are Idiots")
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To: jveritas

bttt


404 posted on 11/03/2006 8:07:44 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Buckhead; Howlin; abb; Milhous; george76; Liz; bert; weegee; martin_fierro; devolve; potlatch; ...

Thanks for your comments.

This has to be golden moments for Howlin, you and others, who cancelled Blather's and Mape's paychecks for lying.

The dinosaur fishwraps are getting hit by multiple factors.

Of course they will never acknowledge that their vile attacks and lies against our President, his staff and our warriors has resulted in about 62 million of us not buying their papers any more. Those 62 million are the voters, who voted for GW in 2004 inspite of all the lies and attacks on him by the MSM.

If we defeat their candidates next week in the election. their approaching demise will speed up to warp speed. A lot of ad money is wasted by left wing corporations and non profits because of the past political clout of the MSM. If they fail to deliver in next week's election, the elite liberals who control these corporations and non profits will find other ways to invest their anti Republican attack money.


405 posted on 11/03/2006 8:13:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave; jveritas
Thanks to Jim Robinson, we have Free Republic and Freepers like jveritas.

Jveritas certainly earned another


406 posted on 11/03/2006 8:15:46 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: jveritas

OUTSTANDING


407 posted on 11/03/2006 8:22:53 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; canadianally; ScaniaBoy; ..

NY Times tries to spring another "October surprise" 4 days before national elections, but in calling attention to the grave dangers associated with Iraq's continued possession of nuclear weapons documents, this should backfire and be rammed down the lying throats of the leftists in the MSM and IAEA, etc.

Kudos to jveritas who has done such tremendous work on the Iraq documents, and to Jim Robinson and all at FR who put us in a position to fight back agains the lying MSM and Demagogues.

With this 11th hour article designed yet again to try to influence a national election on behalf of the Demagogues, the NY Slimes renews its declaration of war on America.

In addition to taking on the Slimes and the IAEA (which is obviously helping to orchestrate this crap), we need to continue to research and take on the libs in the background who are helping the MSM to pull this kind of b.s.

Here are two people quoted in the Slimes article that particularly bear scrutiny, at least one of whom was a high official in the Clinton/O'Leary Dept. of Energy, involved himself in the scandalous declassification frenzy in O'Leary's reign:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1731252/posts?page=326#326


408 posted on 11/03/2006 8:23:51 AM PST by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: jveritas
I'm still blown away that your translations have gotten as little attention from the drive-by media as they have so far.

I mean, other than the initial interest by ABC in that one story, and the 2 or 3 that Stephen Hays did (I know he has a freep account), there has been very little.

On the bright side, I see a good chance of a most excellent book deal, since there is so much blockbuster stuff that is still under the radar of most people.

What confuses me, is why the Bush admin (Negroponte) sat on the documents for years while letting Bush be called a liar, and even today the documents that refute that accusation aren't even mentioned in passing by most of them

The cynic in me thinks they just may want the whole thing to pass...
409 posted on 11/03/2006 8:24:37 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: Grampa Dave

Great post!


410 posted on 11/03/2006 8:26:44 AM PST by 1035rep
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To: FreedomNeocon

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The big "scoop" on today's front page will be deconstructed at length. Our own professor Geraghty has already done a fine job, and Ed Morrissey has added some further thought and analysis. The bottom line is that the Times has apparently embraced the position taken by Senators Santorum and Roberts, and Representative Hoekstra: that much valuable information was contained in captured Iraqi documents, and that the Intelligence Community was far too slow in translating and evaluating the documents, and that it would be a Very Good Thing to start posting the documents online so that they could be evaluated. Santorum and Hoekstra were up against determined resistance from DNI Negroponte and his people, and many in the White House were, let us say, very slow to respond. The president always said he supported the move, but somehow it never got done. After drafting legislation that would have compel led the executive branch to start declassifying and posting the documents, Santorum, Roberts and Hoekstra finally got the process going earlier this year.

I will discuss the whole thing with Angleton over the weekend, if the ouija board works, but this story is probably a leak from intelligence people trying to embarrass the Senators and the Congressman, protect the Intel Community's "right" to classify and declassify at its own will and on its own schedule. and make the president out to be an idiot (surprise!). But, just like Senator Kerry, it is the leakers (and, insofar as the Times shares their objectives, the Times itself) who have exposed their own consumate stupidity. For the story asserts that a) Iraq was on the verge of mastering nuclear weapons technology and b) that Iran is trying to build atomic bombs. Or, "Bush didn't lie."

And in case you were wondering, Santorum, Roberts and Hoekstra always insisted that nothing that could possibly compromise national security should be posted.

Furthermore--and here you have only to look at Ed Morrissey's excellent blog--by implication the Times has given enhanced credibility to the many other explosive contents of the Iraq documents, heretofore ignored by William Broad and other Times sleuths. Those include the close working relationship between Saddam and Al Qaida.

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http://corner.nationalreview.com/print/


411 posted on 11/03/2006 8:27:03 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi
"The bottom line is that the Times has apparently embraced the position taken by Senators Santorum and Roberts, and Representative Hoekstra"

Excellent!

412 posted on 11/03/2006 8:29:28 AM PST by 1035rep
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To: ASA Vet; jveritas; Buckhead; Jim Robinson
ASA Vet, nice touch of class with this. I hadn't seen this before.


413 posted on 11/03/2006 8:31:19 AM PST by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: 1035rep; jveritas; Buckhead

Thanks. It is easy to make a good reply when we discuss jveritas, Buckhead and Free Republic.


414 posted on 11/03/2006 8:33:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Danae; All

Is anyone hearing ANY talk of this out there? I've heard nothing......chirp...chirp...chirp.


415 posted on 11/03/2006 8:36:00 AM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: Enchante; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; jveritas; Buckhead; Howlin; Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
"NY Times tries to spring another "October surprise" 4 days before national elections, but in calling attention to the grave dangers associated with Iraq's continued possession of nuclear weapons documents, this should backfire and be rammed down the lying throats of the leftists in the MSM and IAEA, etc.

Kudos to jveritas who has done such tremendous work on the Iraq documents, and to Jim Robinson and all at FR who put us in a position to fight back agains the lying MSM and Demagogues.

One can only imagine the frustrations of the Marxist Homosexual Lunatics at the NY Slimes, other dinosaur fishwrap, and ABCNNBCBS, when their well planned election October Surprise coup attempts fall flat on their face due to Free Republic, a few conservative blogs, Rush, Sean and other conservative talk show hosts.

416 posted on 11/03/2006 8:39:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: jveritas

JVYMB!


417 posted on 11/03/2006 8:44:20 AM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Those who know the truth need to speak out against these kinds of myths, and lies, and distortions..)
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To: Enchante

Of course DU is touting this as "Bush Admin Put Dangerous Nuke Secrets On the Web!" with renewed calls for frog marching and impeachment galore. They just don't get it.


418 posted on 11/03/2006 8:45:03 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: goodnesswins
Rush is on in twenty minutes. We'll see if he makes any hay out of it. But the NYSlimes intended for this to be big ... for them. Soooo, if all we hear is crickets chirping then we can be sure that word has spread through the lib/MSM world that the counter strike will devastate them. IOWs the hush is on in that case. In order for our POV to make a dent their POV must make a wave in the first place. The word may be out, on the left, to ignore the NYTs story.

On the good side; it's out there and this counter-point is still valid...

Bush is vindicated! Saddam Closer To Bomb Than Anyone Thought

Rhetorical question: If Saddam was a year away in '91 how far away was he in '01?

419 posted on 11/03/2006 8:48:23 AM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: AliVeritas

AQ Khan made this whole issue moot.


420 posted on 11/03/2006 8:52:01 AM PST by sono ("Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" - Gunnery Sgt Thomas "Gunny" Highway)
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To: jveritas

Smooches--to a real hero and seeker of the truth and to this small brave Army of Davids.


421 posted on 11/03/2006 8:57:16 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: syriacus

Bring out the confetti. Uncork the champagne. Have the children bring forth floral tributes. The NYT has just Kerryed itself.


422 posted on 11/03/2006 8:59:34 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

ROFLMAO


423 posted on 11/03/2006 9:05:05 AM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Danae

Rush on it now!


424 posted on 11/03/2006 9:08:48 AM PST by Repub4bush (Tony is the Best Press Secretary Ever!!!!! (Sorry Ari, I liked you too, but you ain't Tony!))
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To: TigersEye
NYTs story on top on Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Friday Nov 03, 2006
425 posted on 11/03/2006 9:09:05 AM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: TigersEye

Yup, been waitin for this.... here we go, hold on folks, its gonna be a WILD ride!


426 posted on 11/03/2006 9:11:23 AM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: maine-iac7; All

you can blind carbon copy emails at once...they don't know you sent it to another person.

But, I agree...if you just send a mass email where they can tell it is a mass email, they will trash it.

I would trash it.


427 posted on 11/03/2006 9:11:24 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: jveritas

great work


428 posted on 11/03/2006 9:13:24 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: jveritas

"Pajammahadeen" bump!


429 posted on 11/03/2006 9:24:01 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: goodnesswins

Rush is ALL OVER IT. He gets it.


430 posted on 11/03/2006 9:25:07 AM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: talleyman

Ok, its made FoxNews now, but NOT the simple connection that the documents JUSTIFY the War in Iraq!

Its comin!


431 posted on 11/03/2006 9:42:14 AM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: jveritas

You are a truly Great American!
Lurking here at work...going back to stealth mode for now, just wanted to say THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


432 posted on 11/03/2006 9:47:41 AM PST by FlashBack (W)
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To: ASA Vet
bttt


433 posted on 11/03/2006 9:55:55 AM PST by txhurl
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To: txflake
WOW!
434 posted on 11/03/2006 10:00:31 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: txflake
Yowza!
435 posted on 11/03/2006 10:08:56 AM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: jazusamo

I just sent a link to Jerry Agar.

Maybe we'll hear about this on the air this afternoon...

Mark


436 posted on 11/03/2006 10:09:01 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: sono

Yep.


437 posted on 11/03/2006 10:21:49 AM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: jveritas

YOU ARE THE MAN! The NYSlimes is now making the case for removing Saddam. Sounds like a John Kerry moment.


438 posted on 11/03/2006 10:24:25 AM PST by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: unionblue83

Their hatred to President Bush has destroyed them.


439 posted on 11/03/2006 10:27:25 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: JerseyHighlander
FR is the greatest political forum on the net and I am very glad to be in the company of great freepers.
440 posted on 11/03/2006 10:29:00 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: airborne
But the bottom line is Bush was right about Saddam!

100% true.

441 posted on 11/03/2006 10:30:11 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: EasySt

Excellent, thank you for spreading the truth.


442 posted on 11/03/2006 10:31:32 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Their hatred of the President was the coup de grace; liberalism started infection.


443 posted on 11/03/2006 10:33:11 AM PST by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: jveritas

NYT, you are so busted. You have the right to shut your yap. Anything you say can be used against you in the court of public opinion. You have the right to an apologist. If you cannot afford an apologist, one will be appointed for you. Do you understand these rights? Well, do you, punk?

444 posted on 11/03/2006 10:35:05 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

LOL... that is very funny :)


445 posted on 11/03/2006 10:38:25 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

You rock. Ya done good.

446 posted on 11/03/2006 10:40:20 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: jveritas

Rep. Hoekstra's response to the NYT is a thing of beauty. He denies that ANYONE warned the goverment/Congress about the danger posed in those documents.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1731635/posts


447 posted on 11/03/2006 10:49:16 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: potlatch; Tony Snow; holdonnow; Laura_Ingraham; Grampa Dave; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; ...
  
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448 posted on 11/03/2006 10:56:29 AM PST by devolve ( classic_moments_in_political_kohn_jobs)
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To: jveritas

BTTT


449 posted on 11/03/2006 10:59:13 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: jveritas; Admin Moderator
I translated and posted a document last month dated January 2001 that shows with a shadow of doubt that Saddam was personally involved

You have a typo on the 5th paragraph. It should state " without a shadow of doubt" rather than "with a shadow of doubt". Perhaps the AM can fix this?

PS: Stellar work!

450 posted on 11/03/2006 11:00:19 AM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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