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Deceased Missourians on voting rolls still voting: 10,000 dead still registered to vote.
The Columbia Missourian ^ | November 2, 2006 | MATT WYNN & August Skamenca

Posted on 11/03/2006 8:59:35 AM PST by rface

Columbia native William Phillippe was drawn to the West Coast through military service and a steady job after he graduated from Hickman High School in 1938. He moved back to his hometown in 1988 and in 1992 married Rea Phillippe.

The two played in a folk-country band called Yours Truly a few times a month. William Phillippe strummed the guitar; his wife played keyboard.

“He was the best guitar picker and singer that ever was, I think,” Rea Phillippe said.

In August 2003, a blood clot caused William Phillippe to suddenly die.

But somehow, according to a state database created this year, William Phillippe managed to cast a vote in the 2004 presidential election.

“He couldn’t have,” Rea Phillippe said. “He couldn’t have voted.”

True enough. But the same mistake could happen again.

William Phillippe is one of 10,520 deceased citizens who remain registered to vote in Missouri, and one of 235 who — according to a state database created earlier this year — managed to cast a vote after death.

Dead people remain on the voter rolls of every county in Missouri. St. Louis County leads the state with 2,270 registered voters who are dead. Adair County has only one.

Some of those registered

to vote died long ago. One, ­William Bennett of Kansas City, died in March 1972.

In Phillippe’s case, his after-death “vote” was a clerical error.

When voters go to the polls, they sign on a line next to their name and a unique barcode. Election judges then use a laser to scan the bar codes of people who came to the polls, and the Missouri Secretary of State’s Office updates its voter database to reflect the vote of each citizen.

In 2004, Rea Phillippe saw her late husband’s name in the registry. She thought she was helping elections officials when she scribbled a note next to his name: “Deceased Aug. 3, 2003.”

In Cape Girardeau, where she lived until 1990, that note would have prompted an effort to verify her husband was dead, said Cape Girardeau County Clerk Rodney Miller.

“Absolutely, we would have looked into it,” he said.

Instead, Rea Phillippe’s note led a temporary worker in Boone County to scan Phillippe’s bar code, inaccurately creating a record that he had cast a ballot.

Temporary workers can’t be expected to do their jobs without making a few mistakes, Boone County Clerk Wendy Noren said. After all, sometimes voters sign on the wrong line, or in between lines, or make other marks that can cause errors.

“It’s like asking why anyone makes a typo,” Noren said. “That’s like saying we’re going to put out a paper without any errors. You can’t do it.”

Scanning mistakes by temporary workers were to blame in all six cases in 2004 in which dead people were listed as having cast a vote in Boone County, according to an analysis conducted by the Missourian.

Noren said she is able to verify the accuracy of any election in Boone County because she keeps paper copies of voter sign-in sheets “forever.”

State law, however, only requires county election officials to keep hard copies of sign-in sheets for 24 months. That means it might be impossible to trace the errors that led to 127 votes recorded by dead people before 2004.

The number of deceased who remain registered to vote worries Cole County Clerk Marvin Register, who fears people who want to commit voter fraud could exploit the situation.

“We can’t just let this go,” he said. “It’s something that has to be taken care of and we’re going to move to take care of this.”

At his request, the Missourian provided Register with its list of dead Cole County residents who remain registered. His office will remove their names as their deaths are verified.

“We will have them off there as soon as possible,” Register said. “They will not vote in this election.”

Boone County has 232 dead people on its list, but Noren said she’s working on removing them.

After a federal election, Noren sends a postcard to each registered voter to make sure they haven’t moved, died or otherwise become ineligible to vote. If the postcard is returned or the voter continues to participate in elections, the voter retains eligibility.

But even when there is evidence a person is deceased, federal law requires the name to stay on voter rolls through the next two federal elections.

Noren said she does not remove names from the statewide list until she is absolutely certain the person is incapable of voting. Obituaries, notices from relatives and other common ways to learn of a person’s death don’t necessarily result in removal from Boone County’s registration list. Once she can verify a person’s death through official methods, Noren said, their names are removed immediately.

In the 2000 elections, Noren said, Missouri had a problem with too many people being removed from the list, which made them unable to vote. She said the possibility of a few people casting votes in place of the dead is better than taking away the rights of legitimate voters because of “aggressive” removal policies.

“Making assumptions you shouldn’t make can cause hundreds of people not to be able to vote,” she said. “That’s government sponsored voter fraud to me.”

There is a system in place to remove dead voters regularly, said Stacie Temple, spokeswoman for Secretary of State Robin Carnahan. Every week, the Department of Health and Senior Services supplies a list of new deaths to every county clerk in the state. The clerks then purge any names from the list.

Temple said 127,000 dead people have been removed from the voter rolls since the statewide database was created early this year. She said the ultimate authority lies with county clerks.

“We work with them. We train them. We help them,” she said. “But at the end of the day, the responsibility for maintaining the voter lists falls on the local election authorities.”

That explanation is little comfort to Cole County resident Betty Schrimpf, whose late husband Robert Schrimpf remains registered 11 years after his death.

“This is their job to purge the databases,” she said. “Do it. What’s the problem? Why is he still on there?”

— KBIA/91.3 FM and KOMU TV reporter August Skamenca contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: deaddemsvoting; demovoteenhancement; elections; voteenhancement; voterfraud
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THE DATA:

The Missourian identified records of deceased voters by comparing the first, middle, last names and dates of birth in two databases. The first database was the statewide voter registration list created earlier this year, and the second was the Social Security Administration’s “Death Master File,” which includes about 77 million death records compiled from 1937 through June of this year. The voter list was current as of Sept. 25.

There is a potential for error in the Missourian’s analysis. The Social Security Administration admits there are people in its master death index who are alive. This generally happens because Social Security numbers were, in some cases, shared by married couples.

To calculate the number of dead voters, the Missourian compared the date of death in the master index with the date of the last election the voter cast a vote. If the most recent election participation took place after the person died, we identified them as a dead voter in this story.

1 posted on 11/03/2006 8:59:38 AM PST by rface
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To: rface
I wondered why McCaskill has been campaigning in cemeteries.
2 posted on 11/03/2006 9:00:48 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: rface
10,000 dead still registered to vote.

And their pets.

And the (vast) majority are Democrats, not so coincidentally.

3 posted on 11/03/2006 9:04:14 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: rightinthemiddle
Another Blue State Voting Pattern...


4 posted on 11/03/2006 9:04:32 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: rface
In Hudson County, NJ, I know someone who had to rip her dead husband's voting card out of the voting book because repeated attempts to remove it the right way failed and he kept voting while dead. Somehow, this problem never appears on the radar for Democrats who claim to care about voting fraud.
5 posted on 11/03/2006 9:04:32 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: rface
In the 2000 elections, Noren said, Missouri had a problem with too many people being removed from the list, which made them unable to vote. She said the possibility of a few people casting votes in place of the dead is better than taking away the rights of legitimate voters because of “aggressive” removal policies.

I thought that a provisional ballot remedied the wrong removal of a registered voter from the rolls, while the fraudulent dead-voter was a problem without remedy. Gee, inconvenience versus fraud... I guess they decided to go with fraud.

6 posted on 11/03/2006 9:05:05 AM PST by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: rface
10,000 dead still registered to vote.

NYC just cleared out thousands of dead voters. Some have been dead since 1953 but have voted in every election since. They were, of course, faithful democrats even after death. Now THAT'S party loyalty!

Dead voters continue to cast ballots in New York (?coincidentally? 4 of 5 are dems)

7 posted on 11/03/2006 9:08:00 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: MortMan
I thought that a provisional ballot remedied the wrong ......

Funny - that's exactly what I thought

8 posted on 11/03/2006 9:08:11 AM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface

There's lots more dead people than that in Missouri. They're being disenfranchised big time.


9 posted on 11/03/2006 9:08:16 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Saddam Hussein Had A Nuclear Weapons Program)
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To: Mr. Mojo

This comes as no surprise to those who have been around awhile and know the system. I know it has been going on for 40 years.


10 posted on 11/03/2006 9:09:32 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: Question_Assumptions

I support the death penalty for anyone convicted of massive vote fraud (get caught casting 5 or more ballots in an election and you go to death row; I give an "allowance" there to leave NO DOUBT as to action or guilt, maybe lower that to "3 strikes").

This goes against EVERYTHING our nation was founded on and is an attempt to steal power.


11 posted on 11/03/2006 9:10:17 AM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: rface; 1stMarylandRegiment; 47carollann; A Citizen Reporter; A Cyrenian; adrian; AFLoggie; ...
Missouri ping

Low volume (normally) ping list

FReepmail me to be on, or off, this list.

12 posted on 11/03/2006 9:11:28 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: rface

BTTT


13 posted on 11/03/2006 9:11:43 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: gunnedah
I know it has been going on for 40 years.

A computer system would automatically kick out invalid votes. That's why the democrats are fighting against voter ID and demanding easy to cheat paper ballots.
If we were to have honest elections, the democrats would never win.

14 posted on 11/03/2006 9:13:08 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: rface
Well, dead people might vote in Missouri, but in Minnesota they elect dead guys to the US Senate!
15 posted on 11/03/2006 9:13:15 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

When I moved down here to the Missouri Ozarks I had no idea it would be forever.


16 posted on 11/03/2006 9:14:59 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Fiddlstix

At a local college someone was handing out slips that said make $100 on election day helping democrats get votes. I took one but they want people who don't work to distribut their propaganda. I would've said vote R hehehe.


17 posted on 11/03/2006 9:15:05 AM PST by bicyclerepair (http://www.therightbrothers.com, I'm a SFL Resident Fry that B@stard!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Wellstone lost to Norm Coleman. It is indeed Missouri who elected the late Mel Carnahan to the US Senate in 2000.


18 posted on 11/03/2006 9:16:21 AM PST by TravisBickle
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To: rface
Deceased Missourians on voting rolls still voting: 10,000 dead DemocRATs still registered to vote.,

There, title is fixed.

19 posted on 11/03/2006 9:16:25 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("I don't know how anyone can go to Church on Sunday, and vote for a democrat the following Tuesday.")
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To: TravisBickle
LOL, thanks for the correction. Makes more sense now. Dead is a constituency.
20 posted on 11/03/2006 9:17:38 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: TravisBickle
I recall even overseas they were making jokes about the Carnahan election. We really should have laws that to be elected to a federal office, the candidate has to be alive.
21 posted on 11/03/2006 9:20:19 AM PST by Dante3
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To: rface

Tiger Rag
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He's dead, Wendy. Let him go.


22 posted on 11/03/2006 9:23:27 AM PST by tumblindice ("I told you this would happen, you with your mini-skirts and Beatle boots." Reverend Lovejoy)
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To: rface

Missouri has evolved from the "Show Me" state to the
"Bury Me Deeper" state , it seems.


23 posted on 11/03/2006 9:28:47 AM PST by rod1
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To: Question Liberal Authority

My question is this...if the dead dudes can be legal to vote...can they be legal to count in a census?

If the answer is yes...then we in Alabama need to start counting tombstones and hustle up fourteen million additional dead dudes and get our fair share of representation in congress.

Being from the great state of Alabama...we are proud of our dead relatives heritage and their desire to remain true-blue American citizens even one hundred years after their death. We feel...they'd want to be counted...and we need to be as fair as we can about this whole thing.

I also think that we should allow dead politicans to continue in office, and that we should be able to elect formerly dead senators back into office. I'd like to bring Henry Clay back into office and have him represent a large chunk of our dead voters in Alabama. The only negative about this whole thing...is that this might end up like a Stephen King novel...like that cat cemetary thing...and then we'd need a bunch of Baptists to bail us out.


24 posted on 11/03/2006 9:31:45 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Yo-Yo
Well, dead people might vote in Missouri, but in Minnesota they elect dead guys to the US Senate!

Same thing happened in Hawaii remember Patsy Mink?? Guess what party she was????
25 posted on 11/03/2006 9:35:48 AM PST by LynnHam
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To: rface

Proof that there is life after death. God is alive!


26 posted on 11/03/2006 9:35:53 AM PST by raftguide
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To: MortMan
I thought that a provisional ballot remedied the wrong removal of a registered voter from the rolls, while the fraudulent dead-voter was a problem without remedy. Gee, inconvenience versus fraud... I guess they decided to go with fraud.

and the dems in Maryland are screaming about Republicans having written guidelines for poll watchers.

27 posted on 11/03/2006 9:38:32 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: concerned about politics

"DemoRat Vote Fraud" bump!


28 posted on 11/03/2006 9:49:31 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: rod1

Well, now we know why McCaskill is so big on nursing homes-potential voters..


29 posted on 11/03/2006 9:52:58 AM PST by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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To: neverdem; Howlin; rface

Bookmarked.

Thank you!

(MSM actual reporting and investigation alert!)


30 posted on 11/03/2006 9:55:22 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: rface
Stem cells will REALLY help THEM!!
31 posted on 11/03/2006 9:59:30 AM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: weegee

Death? Be kind, life without parole.


32 posted on 11/03/2006 10:12:28 AM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Great journalism from an otherwise liberal "newspaper". I use that word in quotes because it is the daily paper produced by the journalism students at Mizzou as part of their classwork. Indeed, this newspaper has hundreds of reporters, which sometimes makes for curious stories and coverage. But, this story is spot on.

Having said that, we will have to wait to see how well this, and other newspapers cover the election abuses that are sure to occur in St. Louis or KC on Tuesday.
33 posted on 11/03/2006 10:22:50 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Its damned good enterprise journalism in my book.


34 posted on 11/03/2006 10:27:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Temple Owl; All

I bet most of them are Democrats.


35 posted on 11/03/2006 10:28:14 AM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Issues matter. The Democrats can Foley & Macaca all they want to. They're still wrong on the issues!)
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To: msnimje

Missouri: The Snow Me State


36 posted on 11/03/2006 10:29:10 AM PST by Tall_Texan ("Journalislam" - reporting about murderous extremists as if they are moral equivalents.)
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To: rface
But even when there is evidence a person is deceased, federal law requires the name to stay on voter rolls through the next two federal elections. Why?
37 posted on 11/03/2006 10:31:27 AM PST by agrace (http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/agrace/)
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To: rightinthemiddle

And they are all in urban precincts and their have a higher turnout than the rest of the living populous?????? Gosh, not much more suspicious than the 2700 dead people who have already voted early in New York (4 to 1 Democrat).


38 posted on 11/03/2006 10:32:48 AM PST by bpjam (Not Voting in '06? Turn in your VRWC card at exit quietly)
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To: Temple Owl
I have no use for those who would seek to illegally steer the course of this nation.
39 posted on 11/03/2006 12:02:56 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: rface

Just a little political humor. Sent to me by email. Enjoy...


While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a
truck and dies.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there
is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so
we're not sure what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in," says the man

"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have
you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to
spend eternity."

"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the senator.

"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down,
down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green
golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are
all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake
his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at
the expense of the people.

They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and
champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good
time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before
he realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter
is waiting for him.

"Now it's time to visit heaven."

So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving
from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time
and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose
your eternity."

The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never
have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would
be better off in hell."

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to
hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land
covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting
it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I don't
understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a
golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne,
and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of
garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
campaigning...... Today you voted."


40 posted on 11/03/2006 1:12:24 PM PST by wizr (Live life with a Passion!)
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To: concerned about politics

I agree without a doubt. I just can not for the life of me believe that Kerry came within 3 million votes of Bush and Gore actually beat him in the popular vote. If America is this evenly divided America is in for some tragic days ahead.


41 posted on 11/03/2006 1:53:42 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: Yo-Yo
Well, dead people might vote in Missouri, but in Minnesota they elect dead guys to the US Senate!

Well, we do that in Missouri too. Remember Mel Carnahan?

42 posted on 11/03/2006 4:27:34 PM PST by barker (Some days are diamonds, some days are stones.)
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To: g'nad; Overtaxed; Corin Stormhands

Heh, ya thought I was kiddin'--


43 posted on 11/03/2006 4:37:42 PM PST by osagebowman
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To: rface

May go late Tuesday to vote just to see if my husband voted. He died last April.


44 posted on 11/03/2006 4:39:13 PM PST by barker (Some days are diamonds, some days are stones.)
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To: rface

I don't think ten thousand dead will be enough to save Claire.


45 posted on 11/03/2006 4:40:53 PM PST by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: rface

Dead people voting Democrat is sort of an article of faith for Democrats.
Sort of their version of The Ressurection in their religion.


46 posted on 11/03/2006 4:42:21 PM PST by VOA
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To: barker
I am sorry to learn about your Husband.....I hope he didn't vote

seriously: My prayers for you and your family

47 posted on 11/03/2006 6:35:14 PM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface

Wow. That's almost as many dead celebrities who still perform in Branson.


48 posted on 11/03/2006 6:39:06 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Tall_Texan

Dead people voted a few years ago for a dead Senate candidate, and he won.


49 posted on 11/03/2006 6:54:16 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: barker

No he wasn't. Norm Coleman won the Senate seat held by the late Wellstone. The Minnesota DFL ran former veep Mundale in Wellstone's place but it didn't work.


50 posted on 11/03/2006 7:20:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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