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Mo. Catholics Back Stem Cell Research
Comcast.news ^ | 05 Nov 06 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/05/2006 1:24:07 PM PST by facedown

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A group of prominent Catholics is challenging church leaders' opposition to stem cell research and to the proposed Constitutional amendment that would protect such research in Missouri.

The group, led by former Sen. Tom Eagleton, e-mailed a letter to fellow Catholics last week explaining its reasons for supporting Amendment 2, which Missourians will vote on Tuesday.

The amendment would ensure that any federally approved stem cell research and treatments would be available in Missouri.

The letter from Catholics for Amendment 2 said the group felt a moral obligation to respond to what it called misinformation, scare tactics and distortions being spread by opponents of the initiative, including the church.

"Some people want to ban all stem cell research," the letter said. "At the other extreme there are those who would like to see research proceed completely unfettered. We believe that Amendment 2 strikes a responsible balance ... (with) clear ethical boundaries and safety guidelines."

The letter challenges Missouri's Catholic bishops, who sent letters last week urging parishioners to vote against Amendment 2. It included a brochure that said the amendment also would divert money from college loans and health care, and prohibit any governor, judge or other officials from regulating or limiting the research.

Bishop Robert Finn of the Kansas City-St. Joseph Diocese wrote that the amendment would enshrine in the state constitution the right to clone human beings.

"This extreme protection of one industry, for something that is inherently and gravely immoral, is unprecedented in any state," Finn wrote.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: catholics; embryonicstemcell; missouri; prolife; stemcell
Note the lack of distinction between "stem cell" research and "embryonic stem cell" research.

The group, led by former Sen. Tom Eagleton,...

Perfect.

1 posted on 11/05/2006 1:24:08 PM PST by facedown
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To: cardinal4

Take a look at this.


2 posted on 11/05/2006 1:25:14 PM PST by Bahbah (Support the military and their mission, vote Republican.)
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To: facedown

Is that the Eagleton that ran as McGovern's running mate until it came out that he had received electric shock treatment?
I'm Catholic and I support stem cell research. ADULT stem cells.


3 posted on 11/05/2006 1:26:03 PM PST by PhillyRepublican
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To: facedown

Bite down hard on this, Tom...


4 posted on 11/05/2006 1:27:19 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: facedown

Oh barf.


5 posted on 11/05/2006 1:29:02 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: facedown
Sen. Tom Eagleton

I'm shocked!

6 posted on 11/05/2006 1:30:00 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: PhillyRepublican
Is that the Eagleton that ran as McGovern's running mate...

I'm pretty sure that it is: Thomas Eagleton

7 posted on 11/05/2006 1:30:36 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown

I agree. It's EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH, but the MSM is speaking to the lowest denominator who won't read up about this. Why don't the repubs say more about this distinction? The govt. supports adult stem cell research and if embryonic stem cell research were so promising, all the money in the world would be given by private donations and companies. It drives me so feckin' nuts.


8 posted on 11/05/2006 1:31:36 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: facedown
Mo. Catholics Apostates Back Embryonic Stem Cell Research

There, fixed that.

(If I hadn't gotten to it, I suspect one of my separated Latin bretheren would have made the correction sooner or later.)

9 posted on 11/05/2006 1:31:56 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Bahbah

*Sigh*


10 posted on 11/05/2006 1:34:03 PM PST by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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To: facedown
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To: The_Reader_David

Any "Catholic" who publicly backs EMBRYONIC stem cell research should be excommunicated pronto.


12 posted on 11/05/2006 1:35:10 PM PST by utahagen
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To: facedown
The title of the thread itself is deceiving. Besides the issue of stem cell research vs. fetal stem cell research, the title makes you think that Catholics in general support "stem cell research" (and specifically fetal stem cell research) when its actually some group using the Catholic name that has come out in favor of the ballot question. The headline makes one think that Missouri Catholics are in opposition to the Church position.

The fact is that I would guess most Catholics do support stem cell research. Hopefully very few support fetal stem cell research. This is exactly the Church position.

13 posted on 11/05/2006 1:38:27 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: facedown; aroostook war; Kevmo; TheRake; rogator; kellynla; redgirlinabluestate; DadOfTwoMarines; ..

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If you want on (or off) this Catholic and Pro-Life ping list, let me know!



14 posted on 11/05/2006 1:38:28 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: facedown

Amendment 2 is deceptively written and the lies truly begin when proponents attempt to explain it.

It pretends that "cloning" doesn't occur when the embryo is CLONED, but only after that CLONED EMBRYO has been implanted in the womb.

The "logic" is that since the baby is killed before it can be born, it's not cloning.
What a pack of lies!


15 posted on 11/05/2006 1:38:41 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: facedown

I thought this was about cloning.


16 posted on 11/05/2006 1:39:50 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: facedown
misinformation, scare tactics and distortions being spread by opponents of the initiative, including the church.

I'm not to keen on Mo politics but these sound like modified dem talking points, the blame game with no supporting evidence.
17 posted on 11/05/2006 1:40:12 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

LOL... Tom needs his voltage increased.


18 posted on 11/05/2006 1:40:47 PM PST by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: facedown

I am so fed up with these "Catholic" politicians who don't give a darn about the teachings of their face and who relish poking their fingers in the Church's eye every chance they get. And my state's two execrable senators (Kennedy and Kerry) top the list of offenders...


19 posted on 11/05/2006 1:46:59 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: facedown

Something I haven't seen addressed is this: assume that embryonic stem cell research does result in a fantastic cure for some important disease. Where would all the embryonic stem cells then come from needed to treat the millions of afflicted by said disease???


20 posted on 11/05/2006 1:47:32 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (Are liberals born stupid, or do they have to work at it???)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Sorry: face = faith


21 posted on 11/05/2006 1:48:05 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: E=MC<sup>2</sup>
Where would all the embryonic stem cells then come from needed to treat the millions of afflicted by said disease???

"Harvested" fetal tissue, or cloning.

22 posted on 11/05/2006 1:51:41 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown
"Harvested" fetal tissue, or cloning.

Exactly! (Sounds like the creation of a MARKET for unborn babies to me.)

23 posted on 11/05/2006 1:55:17 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (Are liberals born stupid, or do they have to work at it???)
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To: facedown
"Some people want to ban all stem cell research," the letter said.

A complete lie - and a deliberate one. But we'll be hearing plenty more from "Catholics" like this as long as the Church smiles politely and grants them all the annulments they request.

24 posted on 11/05/2006 1:58:15 PM PST by madprof98
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To: johnny7
"Tom needs his voltage increased."

He needs to be excommunicated and fast!
25 posted on 11/05/2006 2:04:03 PM PST by Angelas
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To: johnny7

We call him "Sparky".


26 posted on 11/05/2006 2:14:49 PM PST by ottothedog (Forbes 2008)
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To: facedown

Has anybody heard from any of the Cardinals in the Catholic Church about this Amendment?

Where is Cardinal Roger "Illegal Alien" Mahony, George, Eagan, O'Malley "Teddy Kennedy's in Boston", Eagan, McCarrick, et.al.?

None of these sanctonmoinious Cardinals have said anything about this Cloning Amendment but they are full of Hot Air when it comes to supporting Amnesty for Illegal Aliens!


27 posted on 11/05/2006 2:15:09 PM PST by petkus
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To: facedown

Anything Eagleton is for I am against.


28 posted on 11/05/2006 2:18:29 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: facedown

"Note the lack of distinction..." Same here in VA in DNC comercials slamming Drake.

They pointedly omit the word Embryonic.


29 posted on 11/05/2006 3:05:58 PM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: facedown

Tin foil eagle alert


30 posted on 11/05/2006 3:28:33 PM PST by badpacifist (I want you, I need you. But there ain't no way I'm ever gonna love you. So don't be sad.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

It IS about human cloning. Legalizing it and enshrining it in the state constitution.


31 posted on 11/05/2006 3:30:53 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
Amendment 2

Folks should read the fine print.

32 posted on 11/05/2006 3:32:00 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: The_Reader_David

Reminds me of the Reagen quote about Communists. How in a meeting they will try to make ten of their number seem like a hundred so the media can claim their view is mainstream. Less than 1% of Catholics agree with this group. According to the MSM 1% = a majority


33 posted on 11/05/2006 3:45:10 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: facedown

MO amendment ratifies cloning as a right plain and simple.


34 posted on 11/05/2006 4:21:16 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: facedown

No bias at all in the choice of headline. I was thinking "what sort of phony poll came to this conclusion?", but the story doesn't claim that most MO Catholics support Amendment 2, it says that *a few* MO Catholics support it. Ridiculous.


35 posted on 11/05/2006 4:21:46 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: facedown; TexasPatriot8
TexasPatriot8's wife has put together a website of collected information on stem cell research. I highly recommend it.

Stem Cell Research; Truth vs. Lies

36 posted on 11/05/2006 4:30:19 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: facedown

Thomas Francis Eagleton (born September 4, 1929) is a former United States Senator from Missouri, serving from 1969 until 1987. He is best remembered for briefly being a Democratic Vice Presidential nominee, sharing the ticket under George McGovern in 1972. He is a member of the Democratic Party.

Eagleton, who had opposed the Vietnam War, was selected, on July 14, with only a minimal background check. Eagleton made no mention of his earlier hospitalizations.

Newspapers soon revealed them. McGovern and Eagleton initially joked about the case with Eagleton saying he would undergo a psychiatric examination if other candidates (e.g., Nixon) would do the same.



From 1960 to 1966, Eagleton checked himself into the hospital three times for physical and nervous exhaustion, receiving electric shock treatments twice. [1]

The hospitalizations, which were not widely publicized had little effect on his political aspirations, although the St. Louis Post-Dispatch was to note, in 1972, immediately after his vice persidential nomination:

He has been troubled with gastric disturbances, which have led to occasional hospitalizations. The stomach troubles have contributed to rumors that he had a drinking problem.[2]



In the general election, Nixon won every state except Massachusetts.

Missouri returned Eagleton to the Senate in 1974 and 1980.

During the 1980 election, Eagleton's niece Elizabeth Eagleton Weigand along with lawyer Stephen Poludniak, were arrested for blackmail after they threatened to spread false accusations that Eagleton was bisexual. Eagleton told reporters that the extorted money was to be turned over to the Church of Scientology. Polundniak and Weigand appealed the conviction all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, claiming they could not have not gotten a fair trial because of "the massive publicity surrounding this case, coupled with the pre-existing sentiment in favor of Sen. Eagleton." The Court turned down the appeal. Weigand was alleged to have heard from a third hand source Eagleton was seen disheveled and unshaven at the La Terrazza Di Marti (now known as LaTeDa) in Key West, Florida--an establishment which she said was frequented by homosexuals. Eagleton testified he had only been to Key West once, in 1972, and then with his son and daughter.[3]

Eagleton did not seek a fourth term in 1986.


He was instrumental to the Senate's passage of the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act, and sponsored the amendment that halted the bombing in Cambodia and effectively ended American involvement in the Vietnam War.


In January 2001, he joined other Missouri Democrats to oppose the nomination of former Missouri governor John Ashcroft for United States Attorney General. Eagleton's quote was evoked as the rallying cry of the debate and was entered into the official Judiciary Committee record.

"John Danforth would have been my first choice. John Ashcroft would have been my last choice."[4]



37 posted on 11/05/2006 4:30:21 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl


He's a disgusting POS.


38 posted on 11/05/2006 4:32:02 PM PST by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: facedown

Eagleton: Former senator, writer Thomas F. Eagleton, LL.B., former U.S. senator (D-Mo.) and University Professor of Public Affairs at Washington University

39 posted on 11/05/2006 4:34:49 PM PST by kcvl
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To: onyx

Don't hold back. lol!


40 posted on 11/05/2006 4:35:47 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Actually, when my husband was in residency, Eagleton was hospitalized in the mental ward for shock treatments.


41 posted on 11/05/2006 4:45:55 PM PST by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
You aren't suppose to tell the truth about that! It's a big secret. We aren't suppose to know when a Democrat is a certifiable nut case.
42 posted on 11/05/2006 4:52:50 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl


LOL --- right.


43 posted on 11/05/2006 4:55:53 PM PST by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: utahagen

Properly speaking it should not take a formal excommunication--all it should take is the priests being aware of the person's stance.

But seeing that the MO ballot initiative, misnamed the 'stem cell research initiative' is about human cloning, any supporters of the measure in your communion (as among us Orthodox) should be regarded as self-excommunicated. (Hence my correction to 'apostates.')


44 posted on 11/05/2006 6:40:24 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I agree. I'm sick and tired of people whose real religion is Liberalism claiming to be Catholics.


45 posted on 11/06/2006 7:04:34 AM PST by LadyNavyVet
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