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How much is President Bush and Bushies to Blame for this Loss?
opinion | 11/7/2006 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 11/07/2006 10:19:51 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin

This loss is going to have historical consequences – how much is President Bush to blame for this loss? Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with President Bush and the “Bushbots”?

Bush? Or is it Bush and the RINOs? . . . And worst of all to blame, the fault of what some talk show hosts call the Harriet Myers Storm-trooper crowd of Bushbots who simply would bray like a donkey whenever conservatives brought up the obvious problems with Bush from illegal immigration, to port deals, to his globalist friends and massive spending?

Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.

Only in the last couple weeks did Bush start to try to get the message out about the good economy, but the fact is there were many conservatives who kept saying this is a winning message for a long time, if only the Republicans would get serious about getting the message out --- and the reply from the Bushbots was “the DOW and the stock market isn’t the same as the economy”, ignoring that the important message about the economy wasn’t just the stock market but much more.

The Republicans were on a dog and pony show with the “Bushies”, of which some now call the “Bushbots”, and years were wasted with what many now say were idiots who followed someone who never was a conservative anyway. The reality might just start to sink in that Bush just used some conservative lingo to take these idiots for a ride.

Yes, the President was “on track” regarding the war on terrorism – and yes, he and everyone else were correct that this war won’t be over in one or two years. The point being – no, Bush didn’t own the adage that this will not be a short war, but will be a long war, perhaps decades long – and everyone who understood the enemy said the same, and were saying so before even Bush took office in 2000.

In fact, many of these conservatives were saying Usama bin Laden and the Islamic terrorists et all hit the Trade Center once and he was coming back to finish the job, but Bush was too busy running around with Vicente Fox talking amnesty to listen.

But don’t worry, Bush will probably get his amnesty now. No, I’m not talking about the amnesty for Iraqi “insurgents” who killed American soldiers (no amnesty for our soldiers being held for “war crimes?”), no I talking about amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico. And one may as well say exactly what we are talking about here – this isn’t about amnesty for illegal aliens from Jamaica, nor Russians, and such – it’s all about illegal aliens from Mexico, which once given will be irreversible, America will not be the same ever again and no one will be able to turn it around once done, because it’s done.

The best hope in stopping the Bush amnesty was a Republican victory in the House in 2006, but the Bushbots sunk it for us all and now with the Democrats running the show you are going to see an amnesty bill forwarded and Bush will sign it with a smile as a “great example of bipartisan leadership”.

The funding for the war in Iraq will likely now be cut off, a front in the battle on terrorism of which Bush wasn’t fighting as a “war” against the terrorists anymore – yes, let me say that President Bush has been doing a good job regarding the war on terrorism so lets just get that out there now - but, it seemed more like he was thinking the war on that particular front was over and he was “building Democracy” and sure didn’t want to accidentally kill any Iraqi civilians in the process because it wouldn’t look good in the New York Times and CNN.

Anyway, for sure the Democrats are going to have the leverage to screw us up on that one and cut and run not just in Iraq but everywhere. If and when the Democrats get there way, which they likely now will, what that tells the world, since Vietnam, and now Iraq which really was a punch drunk easy war as far as any war goes, the message to the world will now be that America can never win another war.

And that is really bad news since a lot of Americans are going to die as a result.

What that means is Iran now runs the region. And billions and billions and billions of dinars will sponsor further terrorism as they dance in the street having defeated the great Satan – and the Islamic terrorist with a likely victory in Iraq will do exactly what they already said they are going to do: they will turn their attention to overthrowing the governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan.

Pakistan already has the nuclear bomb.

The governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan are next on the head-chopping list, of which the Islamic fundamentalists may likely have very good success on instigating the axe. Because, at least Bush did a good job on the war on terrorism, but you can absolutely count on it that if the Democrats are going to call the shots, the region is going to explode; the Islamic terrorist front will be global like no ones business.

The idiots have been saying the war on Iraq fomented more Islamic terrorists.

The fact is, the growth of Islamic terrorism is an historical trend of which was escalating before Iraq, was on the march and would have been as life-size now whether we invaded Iraq or not, in fact likely even more so if their march wasn’t tripped up a bit in old Babylon.

We have a great economy.

But the economy won’t be great after the terrorist hit us again. In fact, when it happens, don’t be surprised how fast you are going to lose your job.

Democrats running the House. Now just watch the war. The war isn’t over. It’s now going to get bigger than ever.

Well, I guess some are saying, with the Dems running things, they take the blame for things, too. The problem with this is, the old media will still blame everything on Bush. So, unless the American people figure out that what is about to happen to America was the fault of the Democrats, then we are in big trouble.

But we were already in big trouble with this election. And a lot of Americans didn’t understand the consequences now, and this will be the same crowd who won’t understand later when everything blows up in our face.

I suppose some are thinking that all I have been doing is the same as the Democrats – to simply blame Bush for everything.

No, I don’t blame Bush for everything. I blame myself. Because, for some reason, I didn’t get involved enough, involved with other conservatives to get the conservative message to Americans.

Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media. As far as I’m concerned, I consider them an enemy of Democracy.

In fact, I consider the Democratic Party an enemy of Democracy.

And, thank you President Bush, since 911 we, America, hasn’t had another major terrorist attack on our soil. I give the President thanks for this. It has been a blessing.

I don’t think this blessing is going to last much longer. Not after tonight.


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To: keepitreal
One year ago during the Harriet Miers debate the Ingrahams, Noonans, Coulters and NRO gang threw a temper tantrum

Miers was the 101'st most qualified person for the position. This loss had to do with the war and the media.

251 posted on 11/08/2006 1:42:20 AM PST by Dosa26
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To: keepitreal
I didn't like the Miers choice much, either, but I'll add a "well said" bump to that.

And btw, in case it's been neglected in the heat of the week: Welcome to FR, Keeper. I like your posts...

252 posted on 11/08/2006 1:46:26 AM PST by umbagi (Monthly Donor [entry level])
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I fear the Dems in power in the house,we may actually get situation similar to the series"JERICHO" having watched the show<i am distressed by such a prospect.GOD haelp President Bush and GOD help the U.S.!!!


253 posted on 11/08/2006 2:05:47 AM PST by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: Dosa26
No the Miers choice was not the best, but the self-proclaimed intellecutals of the right blew it all out of proportion, giving the dems and the MSM the sense that there was blood in the water. It really destroyed our united front. The NRO and its ilk won the battle but lost the war. Unfortunately the next nominee to the Supreme Court will have to be far more liberal than what Miers was perceived to be by the self-proclaimed keepers of the Reagan flame.

I am a conservative, and by your standards I would qualify as very conservative. However, you have to pick your battles. Unfortunately our side decided to battle with each other. Even in this the NRO crowd acts as if this is good for the Republicans - puts those not in lock step in their place. Unfortunately being in the minority makes it so that nothing we wanted gets done. The GWOT was too important to lose over a temper tantrum by the right.
254 posted on 11/08/2006 2:06:35 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: keepitreal

Well,I've been told I'm so conservative I have to look to my left to see the Pope.


255 posted on 11/08/2006 2:09:16 AM PST by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: Arkinsaw

Alcee "IMPEACHED CROOK" HASTINGS is chairing US Intelligence Committee.

Feel safe?

I think America is going to be horrified when they see the Democrat freak show roll out.

Dems won't win WH in 2008.


256 posted on 11/08/2006 2:16:26 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: keepitreal
Unfortunately the next nominee to the Supreme Court will have to be far more liberal than what Miers was perceived to be

Not neccessarily.

I am a conservative, and by your standards I would qualify as very conservative

You knon't know me or my standards.....lol.The GWOT was too important to lose over a temper tantrum by the right.

The terror war will not be lost. It's just a matter of how many of our brave warriours and citizens must fall. I don't know these things, but I do hope that Americans will not ever have to quake in fear of nuc's on our soil...If we do I will lose a great deal of faith in our people.

257 posted on 11/08/2006 2:30:54 AM PST by Dosa26
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To: ground_fog
Dems will blackmail Bush with impeachment hearings for every bill he threatens to veto-we are fudged!

True, but Clinton was impeached by the House and the Senate left him in office. Same could happen to Bush if he keeps the Senate Republicans on his side. But looking back on the Clinton Impeachment, the Democrats would have been better off in the long run by removing Clinton from office. Gore would have used the incumbency advantage to beat the Electoral College margin, assuming of course that he did not have to pardon Clinton. So if Cheney wants to run in 2008, all bets are off with regards to the US Senate. Unfortunately it is also possible that we could have a Nixon replay here. The new dynamic now is that we have crazy leaders in Iran, Venezuela and North Korea. They will probably force our hands because DC is split and weak once again. In a nut shell, we are in for a very rocky ride. The Democrats used hook and crook (Foley, MSM et. al.) to be in power and my guess is they will probably end up wondering if it was worth it all.

258 posted on 11/08/2006 2:38:44 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: rogue yam

I read Krauthammer and Steyn. From what they say, this is a "normal" mid-term response.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/02/AR2006110201597.html

From the article:

What to say about such a victory? Substantial, yes. Historic, no. Before proclaiming a landslide, one has to ask Henny Youngman's question: "Compared to what?" (His answer to: "How's your wife?") Since the end of World War II, the average loss for a second-term presidency in its sixth year has been 29 House seats and six Senate seats. If you go back to Franklin Roosevelt's second term, the House loss average jumps to 35. Thus a 25/6 House and Senate loss would be about (and slightly below) the historical average.


259 posted on 11/08/2006 2:41:23 AM PST by dawn53
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To: rintense
I blame the 'teach them a lesson' crowd.

Ditto.

260 posted on 11/08/2006 2:42:19 AM PST by Skooz (It's Morning in Pelosistahn)
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To: Arkinsaw
Anybody ever thought that it was a combination of all?

IMHO - You are correct. A bunch of singularly bad issues all added up. Katrina Debacle, Long Iraq War, Illegal Immigration Issue, Meirs Appointment, Foley Resignation, Lack of Fiscal Spending Control, MidTerm Election History, Weak Congressional Leadership, Delay Scandal in Congress, Numerous Close Races for Incumbent Republicans, MSM Attacks, etc. etc..

261 posted on 11/08/2006 2:54:07 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Dosa26

This loss has to do with the pathetic prosecution of the war in Iraq. The State Dept and Dept. of Defense are so worried about fighting a PC war that they will not let the military fight the war as they have been taught. The results: War drags on, lots of US casualties, people get tired of never decisively winning and finishing the war. The only way to win is to deliver a crushing blow...and we haven't done that to anyone since WWII.

This loss, also, has to do with the lack of strong leadership in Congress by Republicans. And it has to do with Bush's poor communication skills inhibiting him from being able to rally Republican leaders and Republican voters to work for the program. Just look at the list of failures that took place WITH a Republican controlled Congress. Don't get me wrong, I love the Pres...he just can't get the message out effectively.


262 posted on 11/08/2006 2:57:19 AM PST by RouxStir (US out of the UN and UN out of the US!)
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To: keepitreal; Brian_Baldwin
I agree. I blame this squarely on the pundits who are supposedly on our side, who have complained and mocked Bush relentlessly since Katrina. Once they didn't stand with him on Katrina, the Rats smelled blood.

We then suffered through attacks on Meiers, the NSA security, Dubai ports, etc. Those creeps act like they are so smart, and they are nothing but worthless sideline carpers who don't contribute a thing to our side, but suck up money we could spend on other things instead of their books and magazines. To heck with them.

And because of this constant criticism, one-issue Republicans stayed home. There were even some who stayed home in Indiana because the Republican governor instituted Daylight Savings Time...real smart, huh?

Pfui. Anyone who comes on here blaming Bush supporters for this loss is a complete jerk, and that is YOU, Brian Baldwin!

263 posted on 11/08/2006 2:59:34 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.```````````````````````)
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To: RouxStir
Don't get me wrong, I love the Pres...he just can't get the message out effectively.

Along with the lib media...I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately some of our "special" citizens need a constant reminder they can relate to, feeling there pain and what not...You just know Bush ain't tellin you that pap and lots of independents want it.

264 posted on 11/08/2006 3:18:23 AM PST by Dosa26
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I blame it on morons like Brian_Baldwin.


265 posted on 11/08/2006 3:21:10 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
How much? Entirely--that's how much.

The Republicans would have swept to a huge victory if they had not alienated their base support by their:

1. Failure to close the Mexican border and halt illegal immigration,

2. Failure to nullify the effects of the Kelo decision--immediately, and

3. Expansion of federal entitlements to include prescription drugs!

FOOLS!

266 posted on 11/08/2006 3:31:30 AM PST by Savage Beast ("We can either fight the Democrats at the polls or...fight terrorists in our streets." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: Howlin

Agreed.

There are idiots who want to have a government like the Italians because of their so called "principles".

Well, now we have it, thanks to them.


267 posted on 11/08/2006 3:32:07 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: sissyjane

"If we had a united front, this would not have happened.

Flame away....not really interested in your response anyway."

No Flame.....A United Front would have gone a long way to avoiding the present outcome of the election, however, the Republicans would have had to have united around a conservative agenda to win. They didn't we lost.


268 posted on 11/08/2006 3:33:34 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Brian_Baldwin
This is really about creeping socialism. Government's purpose is to take care of us. The idea of people having to take care of themselves is politically unpopular.

There is a lot of disillusionment by those who previously voted Republican because their Republican-held government didn't reduce the size and control of government. Unfortunately, non-defense federal spending has grown MUCH faster with Republicans in control than it did when the Democrats were in control.

Look at the pig trough of congressional budget "earmarks" (expensive pet projects) that have exploded the federal budget during Republican leadership.

Where is a conservative to go?

The name-calling won't help. If you sell out your most faithful, you can't win.

If the conservatives lost heart and stayed home, who was in power to let them down?

I don't like the personal attacks I am reading here. If you want conservatives like me to abandon this site completely, keep up the personal attacks.

269 posted on 11/08/2006 3:38:23 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.

Stated perfectly.


270 posted on 11/08/2006 3:40:57 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media.

Yeah, and you took it all with a smile. You own the bully pulpit, Mr. Bush, but YOU DON'T USE IT WORTH A CRAP. We are at war AT HOME AND ABROAD. You could have fought EVERY LAST LIE from the Democrats and their media, but you just let them lay out there and metastasize. Your silence is deafening.

271 posted on 11/08/2006 3:46:33 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Perception of Iraq not going as well as people like.

Republicans spending

Democrats showing some intellect on running "Conservative" Democrats which kept them in power before '94

Failure of the GOP to offset the "conservative" Dem (Need to find a strategy to fight the facade)

Failure to campaign against the media and calling them out (Hell, the media does not even try to hide it anymore)

Pres. Bush failure to attack Democrats (You can't be political friends or bring "unity" in this day and age) Why is Sandy Berger a free man?
272 posted on 11/08/2006 3:53:19 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Amen


273 posted on 11/08/2006 4:56:46 AM PST by TheFrog
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I would say the House and Senate rode his coat tails for three elections.


274 posted on 11/08/2006 4:58:48 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: pissant

Yea right whatever. The Repubs should learn they can't act like Neo-CON clowns and expect to win. Big government, nanny state, deficit exploding, world cop playin life wasting neo-CON fools. Whose brillant idea was this on how to get elected? Oh right the head Neo-CON in chief. Too bad they didnt listen to Pat Buchanan.


275 posted on 11/08/2006 4:59:05 AM PST by Greg Weston
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To: Sir_Ed

I think it was the off year hit. The same one that MOST presidents take. I'd imagine there are exceptions (FDR in WWII, Clinton after impeachment), but Bush had no such exception. As seriously as we may take the War, most of America is seeing only a running total of US troops lost.

For all of the wailing, we're still around the historical average (I think it's 6 senators, and something like 30 house members) of 'mid term casualties.'

I also think (MHO, of course) that there are a lot of things that we, as opposed to the Dems, hammer out in public that ought to be handled in private. That is to say, 'throw the bums out' in the primary, as opposed to the general, election.

The gripping hand, though, is that it's a lot easier to be unified in public when you don't really have to propose anything. Take immigration as an example. We're all hot and bothered by it, from a number of different points of view. What position do the dems have? That their against us! So, a vote for the D column (or a non-vote in the R) becomes a vote for or against border enforcement, for or against amnesty, for or against compromise, take your pick.

Their policy this year was identical to Carroll's Red Queen's take on the meaning of words: their policy meant exactly what they wanted it to mean at any given moment; it could change on a dime.

As you pointed out, this was an across the board rebuke to the party in charge. Yes, even an anti-war guy (Chafee) lost.


276 posted on 11/08/2006 5:13:57 AM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: keepitreal

Well, they can now say they've taught those bums a lesson.

Bet it gives 'em a big case of the 'warm fuzzies.'


277 posted on 11/08/2006 5:16:48 AM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: Greg Weston

Neo cons??? The only neo cons are folks like Bill Kristol and his ilk. And they don't much like Bush.


278 posted on 11/08/2006 6:33:44 AM PST by pissant
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To: Howlin; Brian_Baldwin
Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with the Bush Haters, of which you are a member in good standing?

RINO's are an endangered species, you're just late in figuring that out. Blackbird.

279 posted on 11/08/2006 6:35:27 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: NinoFan
You think this is gloating? Try reading it again. And it's "folks like you" who are responsible for what happened tonight.

It may take a few weeks for that to set in on the chattering monkey's. Their days of shouting down Conservatives at every turn are long gone. That reality will either set in, or they will be wondering around in the minority for decades to come. It is their choice. The RATpublican thing didn't work out too well for them. Blackbird.

280 posted on 11/08/2006 6:43:50 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: PhiKapMom
You and your ilk can go shove it tonight. I blame the unappeasables that were the my way or no way crowd like you and the writer of this crap as much as I do anyone. Hope you like Pelosi as the Speaker and no conservative judges approved. I blame you and your ilk for the fact we will have trouble getting any judge that is good through the Senate. You all can take it and shove it!

Enjoy your minority! It's a little late for your great hate GOTV effort, isn't it? Blackbird.

281 posted on 11/08/2006 6:46:44 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: sissyjane
Flame away....not really interested in your response anyway.

LOL! Well, welcome to the minority! RINO heaven! Blackbird.

282 posted on 11/08/2006 6:52:02 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: All
Two years ago the public turned out to support the president and the war in great numbers. Two years later the public sees no improvement in the situation in Iraq. It does not matter if that perception is correct or not. It would be the administrations job to correct the situation regardless if it is a problem of war fighting or propaganda the responsibility still remains with the president.
283 posted on 11/08/2006 6:54:17 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Wisc Paul
Dear Rush, Well, we reap what we sow - You (and I do mean you, Rush, and others) anoint a moderate buffoon to the White House (who I too voted for twice as the lesser of two evils) because of expedient politics instead of on honest Conservative values and real leadership… Add unqualified political appointments that result in bad politically-correct military tactics and policy on the battlefield, poor politically-correct management of our borders and illegal aliens… Add Republican empty suits in Congress, beholden to traitorous out-sourcing / open-borders big multinational corporate money, betraying the conservative revolution of Newt; Too busy enjoying being in control spending our money, while trying way too hard to be nice and bipartisan to enemies on the other side of the aisle and in their midst… Which leads back to the main offender - The utopian moderate in the White House (nice honest guy though) which also lacked the spine and leadership, and yes – ruthlessness, to keep Congress in line (or to decisively win a war). The Result = The Socialist (Communist) Party (PC term: Secular Progressives) now control Congress – The worst of the worst; the far left will now hold key positions. Bravo, Rush…this country is now officially screwed. While more honest Conservatives like Sean Hannity and Michael Savage tried to warn Republicans on a whole host of important issues, you continued to narrowly parrot the official Republican line…yes, you would allude to it on occasion, but just couldn’t say Bush by name. Well continue to run your funny parodies, which I’m sure will be even more funny with Pelosi in charge now. PS: I voted for every Republican on the SC ballot today…no problems here this time (except for when Lindsey Graham comes up for re-election, who will not have my vote).

Wish you had put that up for signatures before sending it out. Something to consider next time? Blackbird.

284 posted on 11/08/2006 6:56:26 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: Howlin; NinoFan
Basically, you're political whores.

I don't care who you are, that's LOL funny as he!!. Delusional, to the extreme, but damn funny none the less. Keep 'em coming Howlin! Blackbird.

285 posted on 11/08/2006 7:08:36 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: COEXERJ145
This thread clearly shows who on FR like nothing better than to destroy Republicans RATpublicans at the first opportunity.

There, fixed your LIE for you. No charge! Blackbird.

286 posted on 11/08/2006 7:11:18 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: COEXERJ145
It's time to purge these people from the site. They are out for one thing and that is the destruction of the GOP.

You got a lot of work ahead of you. FR will be a lonely place with the dozen or so you harping monkey's glad slapping each other on the back all day. Purge away! Blackbird.

287 posted on 11/08/2006 7:14:53 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: BlackbirdSST

I am enjoying the minority because now we can get real leaders with spines.


288 posted on 11/08/2006 7:42:05 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Finding any worms with your head in the sand?


289 posted on 11/08/2006 8:19:24 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Vote REPUBLICAN on November 7th!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Finding any worms with your head in the sand?

Finding any in the bad hash you've been using?

290 posted on 11/08/2006 8:20:29 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: Darkwolf377

Hope you are enjoying your delusion.


291 posted on 11/08/2006 8:23:54 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Vote REPUBLICAN on November 7th!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I am enjoying the minority because now we can get real leaders with spines.

One can hope that the RNC realizes this need. One can hope. Blackbird.

292 posted on 11/08/2006 8:38:12 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (The greatest Political coup in the history of America, the Hildebeast with an "R" by it's name!)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
My Top Ten Criticisms of George W. Bush

  1. "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" - Enforcement of the law is a basic conservative belief. Pandering to those who openly flaunt the law is not.
  2. Poor Communications - There are numerous strong, clear reasons for the US to vigorously fight the War on Terror. Unfortunately, he has allowed the leftist media to spin and re-frame the war on their terms over and over again. There are issues he was absolutely, clearly right about, but he refuses to point them out. (Saddam's nuclear weapons program, anyone?) He only recently began fighting back and answering some of the more egregious media attacks. We could have used Tony Snow three years ago.
  3. No Child Left Behind - This program is in complete opposition to the approach on the issue of education that helped win Reagan and Gingrich staggering victories. Both of those conservative landslides called for the elimination of the DoE, not it's vigorous growth.
  4. Norman Mineta - A study in politically correct, ineffective bureaucracy, and at a critically dangerous time too.
  5. Missing Veto Pen - This new approach of avoiding vetoes like the plague and using legal memos in their stead is a dangerous thing.
  6. Cozying up to the enemy - BJ Clinton partnered up with Dad was just too bizarre for words. Coddling Arlen Specter is maddening enough to drive a conservative insane.
  7. Allowing Constitutional authority to be negotiated away - Apparently, there aren't enough White House lawyers who understand the principles of the Law of War. They all let the left make great strides in destroying the separation of battlefield law vs. civil law as well as the basic authority of the POTUS to conduct war. The White House didn't communicate a clear distinction between what is torture and what is not. McCain shot the whole party in the foot here.
  8. Department of Homeland Security - Yet another federal bureaucracy, yet another federal police force (is there a federal department that doesn't carry guns?), more massively overlapping areas of responsibility.
  9. Harriet Miers - Enough said.
  10. The Politically Correct war - When you try to fight a war nicely, you will lose sooner or later. War isn't nice; you can't ever make it nice. The one thing that sticks out as a real commonality between Vietnam and the WoT is that the media's opinion of it is given far too much consideration.

    The time for diplomacy is after victory! Destroy the enemy, then rebuild your new allies.


293 posted on 11/08/2006 9:06:13 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: saradippity; onyx
I think the problem either involves Hayworth's Christianity or his support of Bush and the war in Iraq and has very little to do with immigration.

After mulling it over (and after a very restless night of not much sleep), I think you pegged it about the war as the reason JD lost here. People here are strongly opposed to illegal immigration, but I find more are opposed to the direction of the war and whoever is backing the president on the issue. That is an evident pattern across the country, and was/is the #1 issue in this election.

I was driving through Tempe this AM, and I saw a huge JD Hayworth for US Congress sign at one corner. Above it, had a small sign attached, "Voted for the war in Iraq." I had to chuckle when I saw another sign attached to this one, "Please don't steal his sign, Harry!"

Hey, Fox News just mentioned that Rumsfield is stepping down. What do you know about that?

294 posted on 11/08/2006 10:07:58 AM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles..." Fr. A. Saenz)
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To: TomasUSMC
Gato, who do you think will lead the GOP in '08? who do you want?

Like others, I don't see a good candidate of the sort we need. But I would say that there must be a good conservative Governor out there somewhere, but I 'm just not all that familiar with the governors. Certainly not Pataki, not Rudy... Ron Reagans are few and far between. I wouldn't be too surprised if we got Rudy though.

295 posted on 11/08/2006 10:43:00 AM PST by El Gato
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To: Sir_Ed
The first one was a matter of consanguinity, the second one left him.

McQueeg's divorce problems are a bit different and IMO, worse.

296 posted on 11/08/2006 11:21:11 AM PST by nopardons
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To: umbagi

Correct.


297 posted on 11/08/2006 11:23:40 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Brian_Baldwin

The President did his job. The "Bots" voted and did their jobs. Speaker Pelosi thanks you for you contribution.


298 posted on 11/08/2006 11:25:02 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

When we lost seats in Conn., Jersey, Pa.,N.H., etc., immigration is NOT the motivating source of GOP losses!


299 posted on 11/08/2006 11:25:59 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Prost1

How can I be a "metrosexual"? I am a woman; sweetums! ;^)


300 posted on 11/08/2006 12:32:33 PM PST by nopardons
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