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Democrats Will Take Control of the Senate

Posted on 11/07/2006 10:21:07 PM PST by jern

Looking at the votes still to be counted in MO it is bad news for Talent. He still has half of St. Louis County still to go. MT and VA are toast. 51-49 Democrats


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To: rintense
And I see it too much with boomers. Most boomers and older I know believe what they hear Katie, Brian and Charlie say.

I see it all the time with boomers and older people as well. However, the younger people I know - generally speaking - are either totally apathetic about politics or believe what they hear on CNN, Oprah, The View, liberal newspapers and websites/blogs. Or worse - they actually believe what they're hearing on The Daily Show, Colbert Report, etc. is the TRUTH.

201 posted on 11/07/2006 11:35:48 PM PST by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: Heavyrunner
I am going cede the battle graciously and begin fighting TOMORROW for the next election and to ensure the Republican party nominates viable candidates who not only talk the talk, but walk the walk.

This is actually opportunity for the GOP to get back to the principles of Reagan, putforth strong conservative candidates and sweep back into power against the Hillary-Pelosi disaster that will unfold.

But, the GOP is at a crossroads. If the party is dominated by a RINO like McCain, they could be looking at minority status for some time.

202 posted on 11/07/2006 11:38:43 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
I agree 100%. I think the real danger is if the GOP looks around and says, "hey, I think we lost because we were too conservative". You can lose for being too conservative, but that is usually because you cannot articulate your message clearly and above the noise of "evil baby killer!" (though of course, it is quite honestly the libs who are the baby killers :) ).

I don't mean to sound repetitive, but once again Reagan showed us the way and did all of the heavy lifting for us. We just have to live up to being his idealogical heirs and bring forth candidates like Irey and stand behind them 100% in competitive districts.
203 posted on 11/07/2006 11:42:44 PM PST by rom
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To: ChiTownBearFan

"We have no chance in 08 without McCain..."

We have no hope in 08 with McCain.


204 posted on 11/08/2006 2:13:36 AM PST by myheroesareDeadandRegistered (Ann Coulter/ Mark Levin tag team in '08)
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To: rom

I don't see how they can think they were too conservative, when the Democrats looked for the most conservative/moderate candidates to run.(or at least those who could appear that way)


205 posted on 11/08/2006 2:15:04 AM PST by pnz1 (Halp!)
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To: zbigreddogz

No, 1986 was not a similar year. The Rats won Senate seats that we unexpectedly got in the landslide year of 1980. This year, the Rats won additional seats that they failed to win in what, for them, was the good Senate year of 2000. We also did not lose 32 or so seats in the House in 1986. Election 2006 was a horror, and short of a political earthquake that is almost impossible to foresee, we will not be able to repair the damage in 2008. Likely as not, it will get worse before it begins to get better.

Two silver linings: One, Bush is through as GOP leader, and deservedly so. Same with Frist and Hastert. Good riddance, chumps. Two, the American people will get a slightly better idea that it's really the Rats who are running things in this country. This was a hidden reality under the "Republican government" that accomplished almost nothing. Now it's out in the open. Are the American people smart enough to learn the appropriate lessons. Stay tuned. I wouldn't bet on it. But we can hope.


206 posted on 11/08/2006 2:26:21 AM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: myheroesareDeadandRegistered

We sufferred a defeat today, but until Republicans realize why we lost, it will happen again, and the stakes will be much higher in two year.

First, Republicans need to come to grip that the war in Iraq is not popular, even among Republicans. You can blame the media, democrats, whoever, but the fact remains the same. If the conditions in Iraq are the same two years from now as they are today, kiss the White House goodbye folks.


207 posted on 11/08/2006 2:29:26 AM PST by deep
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To: spikeytx86

Yes, I agree with you. The wound from last night is still open though. There were many, many times over the past 2 years I was real angry with my own representatives. I wrote them, called them, and wrote some more. It seemed they were not listening, at all. One letter was all I got back with a response that made my blood boil. A response trying to justify a chunk of pork barrel spending tied onto the budget.

Yesterday, I didn't withdraw my vote from the party even though my party has withdrawn from me.


208 posted on 11/08/2006 2:47:27 AM PST by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: jern

Don't count out Virginia yet. Ther's enough irregularities there for a semi full of Pepto-Bismol!


209 posted on 11/08/2006 2:57:59 AM PST by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: roostercogburn

Please, losing an election can not be compared with that horrible day. We lost and election (I was surprised),it's not the end of the world. We can regroup and carry on finding good candidate in 08.


210 posted on 11/08/2006 5:15:32 AM PST by nyconse
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To: screaming eagle2

Look, let's not go there. If Webb won and it appears he did, then let's accept it and move on. I am sick of litigating elections-bad for the country. You win some you lose some. We will be back!


211 posted on 11/08/2006 5:17:18 AM PST by nyconse
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To: nyconse

I dunno. If it's within a percentage point, you should demand and expect the recount. That's not litigating or calling foul. That's just a prudent "are you sure?"


212 posted on 11/08/2006 7:45:04 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: jern
Well, guess Karl Rove ain't so "magnificent" right now....

(ducking)
- John

213 posted on 11/08/2006 7:49:10 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: bpjam
The Dems kept on target THANKS to the media who gave them the podium. Bashing Bush was a 6 year event. Iraq has little to do with it. Rathergate, Plamegate, Foleygate...It was their agenda, period!!

As I've said all along, the chief benefactor of weakening the Repub party is Hillary and with Pelosi as Speaker of the House, Hillary is smiling from ear to ear. The monster behind the scenes is Mandy Grunwald, Bubba's last campaign manager.

214 posted on 11/08/2006 7:51:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: KoRn
KoRn wrote:
So much for a conservative SCOTUS appointment in the last two years. I doubt the dem senate would allow any SCOTUS nominee for that manner, unless Bush gets someone from the ACLU.

There's a VERY easy answer for this. It's called "recess appointment", and YES, it has been done with U.S. Supreme Court justices in the past. The most prominent was none other than Earl Warren, recess-appointed by Eisenhower.

I don't think Dubya has the inclination or guts to do this, of course.

Maybe he'll re-nominate Harriet Miers (HOWLS of laughter). She'll make it this time!

- John

215 posted on 11/08/2006 7:54:02 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: California Patriot
I completely agree, this election was a sea change and unless the Rats are extremely foolish, the trend will continue in 08. This is horrible news for the country, we can expect "comprehensive immigration reform" (amnesty), defeat in Iraq (blamed on the GOP), repeal of Bush Tax cuts, (tax cuts for the rich), and more, much more government.

The blame for this rests squarely with national GOP leadership which completely abandoned the party base. Don't blame me I voted GOP, I hated to see the Rats take the House.

216 posted on 11/08/2006 8:00:16 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Fishrrman

Isn't a recess appointment only good for a limited time though?


217 posted on 11/08/2006 8:43:50 AM PST by KoRn
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To: Echo Talon

In a perverse way, I agree with you. That is exactly what Bush should do. You voted for the Dems. Okay. Out of Iraq - now! Wiretapping - stopped! Patriot Act - scrapped! Looking at bank transactions - no more! Higher taxes - we raise it up to 75 %, across the board! Hell, that is the new direction people want, so let's give it to them!


218 posted on 11/08/2006 8:51:25 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

exactly, it think thats what he should say today, and then say "Americans need to realize that voting for Democrats has consequences"


219 posted on 11/08/2006 8:55:01 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yeah, they can all go to IRAQ!


220 posted on 11/08/2006 11:19:04 AM PST by but...
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To: jern
Our country is now officially F****D.
221 posted on 11/09/2006 5:59:00 AM PST by stm (It's time to take our country back from the surrender monkeys.)
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To: stm

Like it or not, part of it is screwing up on part of what happened in Iraq. Sad to say, but Saddam did a better job of giving them electricity and water then we did, and they got pissed like hell at us because we were a step down. The election here wasn't lost at all because the Dems did anything right, it was lost because GOP did stuff wrong. So right now, unless someone gets some accomplishments that can be pointed to, the only real chance for a change coming up is for the Dems to screw up just as bad, or to pull some new Reagen out of nowhere and run 'em. Otherwise, might be looking at them pulling the White House in 2008. Need to worry less about what the blue is doing, and worry more about what the red is doing. They don't have a platform, but they're not accountable to the people since they're now in power. Reps are in most voters minds, and that's what made it turn out this way. We had aountability, they didn't, so we take the flak for the scandals, for Iraq, for everything that gets put out there.


222 posted on 11/09/2006 11:08:04 PM PST by Halbarad23
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To: Halbarad23
You are completely wrong about electricity and water. One of the first things the US Army did when we got to Baghdad was to start re-storing infrastructure. But the f'n Baathists would blow up the sub-stations and lift stations as fast as we could rebuild them. We had to post security around all of them, which was a huge drain on manpower, assets that could have been put to much better use like killing the Baathists and Fedayeen.

You want accomplishments? Look at this. Before the US got to Iraq, the Iraqi people had no say whatsoever in the governing of their country. Now they vote:



Or this. It's called a hospital. When we got to Baghdad, less that 10% of hospitals were operational. After a year, nearly 100% were.



Or this. It's called a school. When we got to Baghdad, many children had not attended one in over two years. Some had never attended one. A year later, kids were going back to school in droves and getting an education. Education is the key, not bullets, to stopping the spread of Islamofascism, every educated Iraqi told me this. Iraq was 78% illiterate when we got there.



Could we have done some things better? Of course. I challenge you to name one war where we or anyone else did everything right. But don't tell me we had no accomplishments. After two tours over there, the place was like night and day when I left the second time compared to when I got there the first time.
223 posted on 11/10/2006 6:12:23 AM PST by stm (It's time to take our country back from the surrender monkeys.)
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To: jern

Thank goodness we have a republican president! He can veto every bill the bad old democrat controlled congress produces.


224 posted on 11/10/2006 6:13:37 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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