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Recounts in Virgina & Montana
Natl Review ^ | B York

Posted on 11/08/2006 5:53:30 AM PST by arroyob

RECOUNTS [Byron York]

Unless something unforeseen happens, we're looking at a recount in Virginia, where the law calls for a state-paid recount if the difference between candidates is one-half of one percent or less.

According to numbers on the Virginia State Board of Elections website, Webb and Allen are separated by 8,359 votes, out of a total 2,361,441 cast — a difference of about one-third of one percent.

The situation is different in Montana, where Burns and Tester are separated by 3,113 votes out of 341,891 cast.

There, the recount standard is one-quarter of one percent, so if those totals hold up, a state-paid recount is unlikely. Posted at 8:26 AM


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1 posted on 11/08/2006 5:53:30 AM PST by arroyob
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To: arroyob

Lawyer up in Virginia, the new Florida!


2 posted on 11/08/2006 5:54:28 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: arroyob

His numbers for MT is old. The difference is only 1,586 now.


3 posted on 11/08/2006 5:55:48 AM PST by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: arroyob

Let the nightmare begin.


4 posted on 11/08/2006 5:57:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party: Hard on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism!)
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To: arroyob; All
Check out this post!

Long Day In Montana? (Aide To Conrad Burns Says He Will Not Concede Election!)

5 posted on 11/08/2006 5:57:59 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: arroyob

Worth fighting, I'd say.


6 posted on 11/08/2006 5:59:08 AM PST by TonyInOhio (We've taken our lumps. Now stand up and fight!)
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To: TexasGreg

Ping


7 posted on 11/08/2006 5:59:14 AM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: arroyob

Unbelievable... Tim Russert was on NBC talking about the new House leadership and one word he never used... liberal. That is one thing they are, if anything. Definitely a little bias there.


8 posted on 11/08/2006 6:02:25 AM PST by ruschpa
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To: arroyob

However these Senate races go I hope they're resolved soon; I'd hate to see a repeat of 2000.


9 posted on 11/08/2006 6:03:59 AM PST by nofaceveils
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To: King of Florida

no absentee ballots to speak of in Montana, so Virginia may be the best shot.


10 posted on 11/08/2006 6:06:22 AM PST by arroyob
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To: areafiftyone

21K absetee ballots out in Montana?


11 posted on 11/08/2006 6:06:24 AM PST by arroyob
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To: paudio

Unfortunately Meagher County has only 1,400 adults - and based on 2000 and 2004, the best we can hope for is a +500, which may not be close enough to get a state paid recount.

Unless there are uncounted absentees and an unually large number of provisionals from Burns precincts, I am afraid this one is done.


12 posted on 11/08/2006 6:08:15 AM PST by westfield3
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To: paudio

Your numbers are old. CNN says that Tester leads by 1735 votes. 99% of precints in.

398,259 votes counted. So 0,25% of it is 996 votes. A state-paid recount is unlikely, but let´s wait for safe informations on the absentee vote situation.


13 posted on 11/08/2006 6:11:23 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus

It seems all counties are in now, except for the absentees, of course.


14 posted on 11/08/2006 6:17:26 AM PST by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: arroyob

Why even bother at this point because one up or one down it still takes 60 votes to even get to cloture on any issue.


15 posted on 11/08/2006 6:22:17 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: paudio

No, Meagher is still missing. But this county alone cannot change the outcome. So IF there are uncounted absentee ballots out there, these can make a difference. Otherwise: 6 years D.C. for Mr. Tester.


16 posted on 11/08/2006 6:23:08 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: arroyob

Anybody know what the amount of overseas and absenteeds not counted in VA yet? Same with MT?


17 posted on 11/08/2006 6:23:40 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: paudio

Meagher is still out according to CNN, but congratulations putzhead Libertarians, for draining off the vote.


18 posted on 11/08/2006 6:24:08 AM PST by claudiustg (Iran delenda est.)
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To: aft_lizard
Anybody know what the amount of overseas and absenteeds not counted in VA yet? Same with MT?

In VA the absentee ballots are already included in the vote tally:

Mailed absentee ballots are counted on Election Day in the Central Absentee Precinct (CAP). Fairfax County uses optical scan equipment to count paper ballots. Please follow the marking instructions on your ballot and return it in the envelopes provided. Be sure to fill in ALL the information on Envelope B, including; your full name, legal address, your signature, your witness's signature and a date. Anyone, including your spouse, family member or neighbor, may serve as your witness.

In other words, it's over. No way a recount changes the total by 8000 votes.

19 posted on 11/08/2006 6:25:00 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: paudio

that's still almost twice as many as the .25% requirement...


20 posted on 11/08/2006 6:28:50 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: NittanyLion

The nation is waiting for these counties to report:

Meagher (MT)
Fairfax City (vA)
Isle of Wight (VA)
Loundoun (VA)


21 posted on 11/08/2006 6:29:27 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: NittanyLion
In other words, it's over. No way a recount changes the total by 8000 votes.

True, Allen lost by the number of illegals voting and the number of farmers he screwed on the tobacco buyout.

22 posted on 11/08/2006 6:30:38 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Michael81Dus

I never thought I would see my former home of Virginia become a light blue state, at least not this fast. It seems to be easier for a Republican to win a statewide race here in Florida right now than in Virgina.


23 posted on 11/08/2006 6:31:25 AM PST by Timedrifter
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To: arroyob

GOP better start thinking about potential "jeffords" on the Dem side.


24 posted on 11/08/2006 6:31:28 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: ruschpa

I heard the "Perky One" last night gleefully calling them "Social Democrats"


25 posted on 11/08/2006 6:33:01 AM PST by DaiHuy (CHRIST LEFT OUT OF 2006 CHRISTMAS. JUST ASK YOUR DEPT STORES.)
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To: claudiustg

Hey, Libertarians are people too (I think), even if they are inclined to amble aimlessly and be airheaded.


26 posted on 11/08/2006 6:33:16 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: arroyob
21K absetee ballots out in Montana?

You would think these have to be 60% or better for Burns which would be about 2100 votes.

27 posted on 11/08/2006 6:39:40 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: ruschpa

I saw NBC last night.

I don't see Russert on TV very much, basically only a few times.

Maybe I'm reaching here - but early in the evening he sounded almost thrilled that the Dems were doing so well.


28 posted on 11/08/2006 6:45:41 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: NittanyLion

I dont think Montana is over by a longshot though!


29 posted on 11/08/2006 6:49:01 AM PST by arroyob
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To: dinoparty

Watch Chafee.


30 posted on 11/08/2006 6:49:03 AM PST by arroyob
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To: arroyob

Chafee lost.
I meant current Dem Senators that the GOP can convert to their side.


31 posted on 11/08/2006 6:50:21 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

I think Lieberman could be turned if he was offered enough.


32 posted on 11/08/2006 6:52:35 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: AmericaUnited

this thing is gonna be close!


33 posted on 11/08/2006 6:53:16 AM PST by arroyob
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To: Timedrifter

For 15 years, I've followed Virginia politics from afar.

It get the feeling that Virginia will soon become a swing state because of the explosive growth in Northern Virginia.

A lot of the newcomers are govt employees, a group with a vested interest in voting Dem.

Transportation is also a huge issue up there. Getting from Point A to Point B takes longer and truth be told, there's a sizable group of voters who don't mind paying higher taxes for better (and more) roads.


34 posted on 11/08/2006 6:53:21 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

The democrap party media whores are gleeful because they have succeeded in turning this nation's voters into democrap lemmings.


35 posted on 11/08/2006 6:53:26 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: dinoparty
When the Republican party starts realizing that the libertarian part of the 'base' is just as potentially solid and deserves a place at the table as much as the Judeo-Christian culture warriors they might do a little bit better. 'Government' and 'morality' have nothing to do with each other.
36 posted on 11/08/2006 6:54:47 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: RedStateRocker

Libertarians (albeit moderate ones) were kicked out last night. If that trend continues, the GOP may as well cement a longer term minority status. We need the moderate libertarians.


37 posted on 11/08/2006 6:57:33 AM PST by graf008
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To: wagglebee

I think Lieberman is honest and will not be turned by dangling goodies in front of him. He could be turned, perhaps, by consideration of the difference in integrity between the two parties.


38 posted on 11/08/2006 6:58:37 AM PST by twigs
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To: RedStateRocker

Problem is the religious branch of the part won't tolerate anyone who is libertarian. Just seems that way to me. If you say you are for embryonic stem cell research on this forum you are flamed within an inch of your life. I think this really hurt us at the polls.


39 posted on 11/08/2006 6:59:54 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: twigs

I think a lot will depend on how the 'Rats treat him now. He may not be influenced by the GOP, but he is also keenly aware of how the 'Rats have treated him the past few months. Politically, he is more in line with the GOP than Lincoln Chafee.


40 posted on 11/08/2006 7:03:24 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: cajungirl

does anyone know about Steele???


41 posted on 11/08/2006 7:03:27 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: cajungirl

You are correct. This board is, and really should be classified as, not a conservative forum, but a religious conservative forum. There are other places for more libertarian viewpoints - Free Republic is not it.


42 posted on 11/08/2006 7:03:42 AM PST by graf008
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To: arroyob

At this point I think Allen is clearly done for regarding the the 08 POTUS race.


43 posted on 11/08/2006 7:04:18 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: The Wizard

He lost. By a lot. I'm really sad; he was one of the better senatorial candidates this season.


44 posted on 11/08/2006 7:04:41 AM PST by twigs
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To: Blackirish

I agree. And it looks like in reality he's done for in the 06 race. Instead, we get a pedophile.


45 posted on 11/08/2006 7:05:34 AM PST by twigs
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To: RedStateRocker

Says who? You? Do you have any Constitutional authority for that statement?


46 posted on 11/08/2006 7:05:49 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: cajungirl
So? If I wander onto DU proclaiming I'm pro life, you won't hear me whining about being "flamed." Boo frickin' hoo.

If you're for killing babies to advance research, so be it. Try sticking up for your position instead of whining about it.

47 posted on 11/08/2006 7:06:00 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: wagglebee

Possibly Lieberman, but becoming a Repub could hurt his 2012 reelection chances.


48 posted on 11/08/2006 7:08:35 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Coop

I think cajungril is just stating that she didn't understand this was both a social and economic conservative board that often focuses more on social ones than economic ones. The GOP is, or at least was, a party that used to tolerate those viewpoints that were more libertarian. This board isn't meant to support the GOP alone, especially where it ignores social issues.


49 posted on 11/08/2006 7:08:59 AM PST by graf008
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To: dinoparty

He won't switch. He is Democratic on a lot of issue, has a committee chair being dangled in front of him and will be welcomed back in his party.


50 posted on 11/08/2006 7:09:38 AM PST by graf008
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