Posted on 11/10/2006 5:12:23 PM PST by neverdem
Now that the bitter election season is over, both parties will have to return to the explosive issue of illegal immigration.
Increased border patrol, a 700-mile fence to stop the easiest access routes (something President Bush signed into law two weeks ago), employer sanctions and encouragement of one official language can all help solve the crisis. But once the debate is renewed, congressional reformers will be blitzed by advocates of the failed status quo with a series of false assumptions concerning the issue.
Take, for example, the shared self-interest argument - that the benefits to both the U.S. and Mexico of leaving our borders open trumps the need for enforcement of existing laws and outweighs the costs to U.S. taxpayers that result from massive influxes of poor illegal aliens.
Libertarian supporters of relatively open borders, for example, have long argued that illegal immigration is a safety valve for Mexico, one that prevents violent revolution south of our border. By allowing millions of poor people to cross illegally into the United States, we supposedly stabilize Mexico. Billions of dollars in remittances are sent back home to the needy left behind.
Yet for the last several weeks, the Mexican city of Oaxaca has been in near-open revolt. What started out as calls to remove the state governor, Ulises Ruiz, on charges of fraud and corruption has spiraled into a popular uprising of the type that's been seen in Venezuela and Bolivia.
Yet the state of Oaxaca is also one of the chief sources of illegal immigration to the United States. Hundreds of thousands of dissatisfied Oaxacans have fled to the U.S. and now send millions of dollars back southward. Why, then, is the city on the brink of chaos?
Could it be that far from stabilizing Mexico, the continual flight of millions...
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Deport. Arrest the employers. Close the borders.
I'm all for sending all of them to Illinois. It's time California shared the wealth.
Lol. No. Unless they spend it helping more illegals to cross the border.
Second that.
You think the administration will ever spend the money on the fence ? I seem to rememember that they would not hire border patrol agents that congress had budgeted for.
I'm not holding my breath.
You think the administration will ever spend the money on the fence ? I seem to rememember that they would not hire border patrol agents that congress had budgeted for.
I'm not holding my breath.
Mexicans do not have to worry. The only actions Americans are capable of are: "Debate," "Discussion," "Dialogue," and "The Expression of Different Points of View!" Western Civilization will be the only civilization in history that talked itself to death. Not even one shot, only words, followed by perpetual service for those Americans that remain alive after the sack.
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"Cheap" labor bump
Gosh, its like Al Gore, when he was 'rethinking government' and look what harm it did to the American people.
"higher wages" - the quaint notion that supply and demand applies to labor?
How odd. Though I seem to recall an econ course I took almost fifty years ago -- supply and demand principles did apply to labor. I know, I know. I'll see if I can find the textbook.
Thank goodness we've advanced into globalism and a worldwide glut of labor -- and it's so cheap! Not only in terms of labor but that old-fashioned sovereignty thingy -- and who needs that "nation of laws not men" stuff?
Well, I guess it still does. But there's something new today.
There’s always been a worldwide glut of labor though not as well educated as some are today.
But we could not get to it. There was no labor arbitrage and savvy people of the bygone era had not advanced enough to accept, "Laws?! We don’t need to enforce no stinkin’ immigration laws."
This "the way it is" moment from WoC news service:
Corporate executive praises today’s military volunteers as the best-motivated, brightest, best educated youths in a long, long time. "They are terrific! Their bravery and patriotism are just astounding. They are protecting America and America’s foundation: the American business community. I just wish we could afford to hire them when they get back. But we can’t and still compete. The American worker has become too demanding. . . ."
As long as we don't seriously go after employers, closing the borders and deporting illegals is not gong to solve the problem. The demand for cheap labor will still exist and desparate people will take extrodinary risks to meet the demand.
Unfortunately, a positive attitude to hard physical work also means paying the worker enough so that he can live indoors, and not depend on soup kitchens and food banks to eat.
I completely agree. The employers are citizens of this nation. They ought to have a greater loyalty than a foreign national and even if they don't they ought to be held to a higher standard. Real prison time and serious financial consequences should be incurred. Plenty of people would love to open businesses to replace those criminals.
Will these same employers pay for their illegal workers health care and food stamps? I think not. Why should I subsidize a business with my tax money. The business man needs to meet and plan for expense associated with employing people.
In order for thia country to succeed, we can not afford not to hire them. This so called glut of labor is in other coutries and is their problem. Foreign, cheap labor brings tons of problems such as dangerous third world diseases, culture shock (suburbans living with people who have goats and chickens running around their front lawns), higher bills for hospitals (caring for the illegals (leads to higher insurance costs for all) and ultimatley socialism in order to address the needs of displaced workers. Cheap foreign labor isn't cheap. Why do we have a global market in terms of goods, but slave labor is ok. Slavery never leads to anything good. These people are economic slaves. I am against foreign cheap labor. If business owners can't compete with legal workers than they should not be in business.
Your right the people who hire them have to have the job redone right,some people don't understand tou get what you pay for.
It's getting to the point where I think we should arrest Bush and congress for failure to enforce our immigration laws, or sue them personally , at least.
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